[Items] Ancient Shield

[TK.darkro90]

Ancient Shield

5025

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Once worn by the ancient battlemage Nerevar, this shield can morph into form that the bearer needs.

Vanguard (2225)

Ultimate Orb (2100)

Recipe (700)

Phase Form(Active)

• Change the form of the shield into Strength/Agility/Intelligence form. (Like Power Thread.)
• Strength Form Stats:

(Icon can be downloaded here)
+5 Strength
+100 HP
+2 HP/sec regeneration
15% chance to cast Iron Skin when attacked (Reduce all damage taken from all source by 45% for 3 seconds. Cooldown: 8 seconds.)

• Agility Form Stats:

(Icon can be downloaded here)
+5 Agility
20% increased attack speed
15% chance to cast Rage while attacking(Increase attack speed by 30% for 3 seconds. Cooldown: 8 seconds.)

• Intelligence Form Stats:

(Icon can be downloaded here)
+5 Intelligence
+150 Mana
+95% Mana Regeneration
15% chance to cast Mana Blast when casting a spell (Damage all enemies by 20% of the hero's manapool in AOE 400 of the caster)

Frequently Asked Question


Q: Is the stat stack with the shield's original attribute?
A: Yes, for example, if you have Strength Form, then the stat would be:

+650 HP
+10 hp/sec regeneration
+5 Agility
+5 Intelligence
+10 Strength
75% chance to block 65 damage (45 for ranged)
15% chance to cast Iron Skin when attacked (Reduce all damage taken from all source by 45% for 3 seconds. Cooldown: 10 seconds.)

And if you switch to Agility form, it will be:

+550 HP
+8 hp/sec regeneration
+10 Agility
+5 Intelligence
+5 Strength
75% chance to block 65 damage (45 for ranged)
20% increased attack speed
+15% movement speed
15% chance to cast Rage while attacking(Increase attack speed by 30% for 3 seconds. Cooldown: 10 seconds.)

And so as the Intelligence form.

Q: What's with the passive skill cooldown?
A: For balancing, of course. Imagine Jah'Rakal continuing have Rage stat while his Fervor building up to 150% IAS. Or, Tidehunter continuing to get Iron Skin while Kraken Shell kicks in. But if you have any other suggestion, you are welcomed to post it.

Q: Did Mana Blast also triggers with toggled spells and spells with no cooldown?
A: No. It works like Essence Aura, in a sense.

Q: Did Mana Blast also depletes mana by the amount of damage dealt?
A: Nope.

Q: So, the Iron Skin also reduces damage from spells such as Laguna Blade?
A: Yes. Think of it as a partial Refraction, without any instances of course.

Will update this section when more reviews comes in.

[Null-]

If all 3 to collect?) imba devices... It is necessary to make restriction: no more than one
Idea not bad,T-UP!

+15% of speed it is a lot of,a maximum 5%-7%,imho

[TK.darkro90]

Originally Posted by Null-

If all 3 to collect?) imba devices... It is necessary to make restriction: no more than one
Idea not bad,T-UP!

Err... sir, is like Power Thread, you just can obtain 1 of the 3 benefit stat, so no imba here

or maybe you refering to number. if you had any idea, please give any feedback

EDIT:
it is 15 MS, not 15%, sorry for the typo :P

[Null-]

So that is better.
Yes, I had in view of about 3 boards at once in inventories... It is necessary to specify in the description that only one. Just as a new axe which eats trees.

[Archadian]

I actually like the idea of a vanguard upgrade, since I like to get it on casters, this would make it more useful overall. T-Up.

[naiad]

i like the concept. however, the number, especially +hp, +attributes, and bonus for agi form, seems a bit imba. anyway T-up

[GetTriggerUnit-]

T-down Not that much original.

[Nonok]

Numbers are kinda off, concept is super awesome though. I like the idea of upgrading Vanguard. T-up

[TK.darkro90]

Originally Posted by Simonake

T-down Not that much original.

i request some in depth explanation on your comment.... so i could see what is imba on my item

[WrathoftheLamb]

Very nice item, needs a little balancing (in the Agility form, I mean, why the MS bonus?) and overall an Item that would greatly help all heroes.

T-UP!

[Archadian]

He didn't say it was imbalanced, he said it was not original. Although I'm unsure if that's true.

[TheDarkChief]

Some parts confuse me a bit, so before I T-Up or T-Down, I just want to get some things straight.
So the stats are...
+500 HP
+12 HP/sec regeneration
+75% chance to block 65 damage(55 damage for Ranged)
+15 to all Attributes
So does the Phase Form add on to the original stats? So when strength is selected, the holder will get +600 health, +20 HP/sec regeneration, +75% chance to block, and +15 to all attributes?

Another thing is that Vanguard has only 6 HP/sec regeneration. It jumps up to 20 HP/sec in a flash, and that bothers me a bit. Perhaps it should be 8/10 HP/sec regeneration for original stats, and then 14/16 HP/sec regeneration for strength mode, unless I am still confused about what I mentioned above.

Basically I'm worried about the extra features (Mana regeneration, move speed, etc.) that come in once you switch to different modes (STR, AGI, INT), just from Vanguard and Ultimate Orb. Maybe once I'm not confused about the stats I'll get a better understanding.

[TK.darkro90]

Originally Posted by TheDarkChief

Some parts confuse me a bit, so before I T-Up or T-Down, I just want to get some things straight.
So the stats are...
+500 HP
+12 HP/sec regeneration
+75% chance to block 65 damage(55 damage for Ranged)
+15 to all Attributes
So does the Phase Form add on to the original stats? So when strength is selected, the holder will get +600 health, +20 HP/sec regeneration, +75% chance to block, and +15 to all attributes?

Another thing is that Vanguard has only 6 HP/sec regeneration. It jumps up to 20 HP/sec in a flash, and that bothers me a bit. Perhaps it should be 8/10 HP/sec regeneration for original stats, and then 14/16 HP/sec regeneration for strength mode, unless I am still confused about what I mentioned above.

Basically I'm worried about the extra features (Mana regeneration, move speed, etc.) that come in once you switch to different modes (STR, AGI, INT), just from Vanguard and Ultimate Orb. Maybe once I'm not confused about the stats I'll get a better understanding.

i will balance it now...

and yes, it is add up/stack to the original stat

please give me more feedback, i appreciate them more

[Setyroth]

How about making it directly from Scout shield? (lower everything of course)

[TK.darkro90]

Originally Posted by Setyroth

How about making it directly from Scout shield? (lower everything of course)

you mean Stout shield?

no, and of course not

i have seen many people babbling about "where is vanguard upgrade?? i want it!!!" and then rage leave.

So, maybe if this item implemented, it can do something to Vanguard popularity to Casters

[TK.darkro90]

Originally Posted by WrathoftheLamb

Very nice item, needs a little balancing (in the Agility form, I mean, why the MS bonus?) and overall an Item that would greatly help all heroes.

T-UP!

Ms bonus for chasing. Well, most agility hero are carry and chaser, so when i add the ms bonus might be aiding them.

[zylick]

my reason why-i love creative:d

[Setyroth]

Originally Posted by darkro90

you mean Stout shield?

no, and of course not

i have seen many people babbling about "where is vanguard upgrade?? i want it!!!" and then rage leave.

So, maybe if this item implemented, it can do something to Vanguard popularity to Casters

Part of what I see as keeping Vanguard balanced with the rest of the game is that it has no upgrade. It may not sound great but its important that it stays a item you make a good investment in, but becomes only semi-viable in the late game. I would have to think more about it but I think this would nerf the usefulness of Heart.

There's also the slot management stratagy aspect. Numbers can be tweaked I suppose but isn't its concept a little imbalanced?

[TK.darkro90]

Originally Posted by Setyroth

Part of what I see as keeping Vanguard balanced with the rest of the game is that it has no upgrade. It may not sound great but its important that it stays a item you make a good investment in, but becomes only semi-viable in the late game. I would have to think more about it but I think this would nerf the usefulness of Heart.

There's also the slot management stratagy aspect. Numbers can be tweaked I suppose but isn't its concept a little imbalanced?

Imbalanced in what ways? this item if you view it more closer, just like Power Thread(not after the originality concept.)

i think Vanguard is useless in late game, because there are many hero with awesome damage. So i made up my mind to suggest this item

[TheDarkChief]

So it does add up.
Then there's some serious problems that I see. I'm pretty sure it's one point for STR adds 19 health (unless it's different for each character), so STR mode would actually be getting +885 for health.

This needs to be remade. I can see where you're going with this, but it does need to be remade. If you want help, give me a PM, I would be glad to help, since this is actually a good idea, but right now it just isn't working. For now, T-Down.