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Old 10-10-2010, 01:31 AM   #1
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Default How to counter Anti-Mage?


Besides winning the game instantly - most pub teams are too disorganized to realize that when you say 'WE NEED TO WIN THIS GAME NOW' you aren't being a tryhard.

Obviously he will die if you chain-stun him, but is there any way a single hero can kill him? I would think he couldn't be comboed to death because of Spell Shield.
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Old 10-10-2010, 01:46 AM   #2
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Gank him and don't let him farm in peace. Pugna fucks him. A little.
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Old 10-10-2010, 01:51 AM   #3
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Drow ranger most likely is the best counter since she isnt mana dependent, she hasnt got high mana pool, she has high DPS, good armor, silence to prevent blink. Also Drow can even get a GS to nullify Magina attacks for some seconds on late game if Magina gets a basher.
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Old 10-10-2010, 02:57 AM   #4
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Default Re: How to counter Anti-Mage?

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most pub teams are too disorganized to realize that when you say 'WE NEED TO WIN THIS GAME NOW' you aren't being a tryhard.
QFT.

Hence, pick a late-gamer and out-farm the opposing AM.
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:19 AM   #5
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Seriously. Just pick something like void/pa/syllabear/OD/drow/sf/anyhardcarry/anydecentsemicarry/anystrongganker/sven/ wooops I'll stop there.
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:19 AM   #6
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Prevent am from getting his vanguard
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:27 AM   #7
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Gank, disable, stun. Clusterfuck. Those all work.

Top of my head, Bane Elemental's Grip would work wonders.
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:41 AM   #8
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Pawn him with spells early game, since he doesn't have Spell Shield yet.
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:44 AM   #9
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Pawn him with spells early game, since he doesn't have Spell Shield yet.
Some pros level Spell Shield first and skip Mana Break nowadays
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:44 AM   #10
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Disable, nuff said
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:51 AM   #11
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OD will eat him as Harb will always be full on mana even with am attacking.
True Carries pwn him(mort is probably the best)
Permabashers rape him so hard its not even funny.
Bristleback is extremely fun against him.
Get Bane/Doom/Rex and gg him.
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:51 AM   #12
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Drow and outcarry by the 25 min mark, or Tiny and gank his shit HP early on.
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:55 AM   #13
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Bristleback is extremely fun against him.
How would Bristleback be effective? He wants things to hit him, and the point is not to have AM hit you.
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Old 10-10-2010, 04:04 AM   #14
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The cool thing is if am gets his vanguard before 10minute mark, you will have a hard time dealing with him.
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Old 10-10-2010, 06:51 AM   #16
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How would Bristleback be effective? He wants things to hit him, and the point is not to have AM hit you.
Well if AM is already focusing you then your teammates can whack the shit out of him. Also after bristleback and reductions even if you get hit by a 0-Mana Void you will be damaged only around 100-300(much much less with hood). Point is you can tank his attacks quite well enough for your mates to back you up without dying.
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:23 AM   #17
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If he is just a good player you cant counter him but get owned until you skill up enough to be able to out farm him and outplay him.

theres no such thing as countering a hero but how to counter a player(most of the time).

Really do you think some guy has been playing this game for 4 years and got no results.

be as ignorant as you want but AM isnt as easy as people make him out to be, some times youll owm him and sometimes his just a good player that you cant own him...
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:48 AM   #18
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Default Re: How to counter Anti-Mage?

u can counter good antimage player only late game(considering magina is picked for his main role - to counter lots of casters in the opposing team) - when he gets his butterfly then you need a strong carry that is a good MKB user - pa, void, spectre...

people telling you should gank him and kill him with nukes are talking crap - how can u gank a hero with natural build in magic resistance and blink? and ofc i will level 1 break 1 blink and 4 spell shield... infact this hero is a ganker himself but its just he got no disables... but hes got a blink, nice steroid and passive and a low cd ultimate.
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Old 10-10-2010, 08:14 AM   #19
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Default Re: How to counter Anti-Mage?

Ursa owns him 1v1.
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Old 10-10-2010, 08:21 AM   #20
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Old 10-10-2010, 08:27 AM   #21
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Well on pubs its hard, i played am yesterday and no one could stop me when i got my bfury treads in about 20 min mark. Then i proceeded to take down their fed yurnero, buying manta a destroying their tree. But for countering i would say that disables and silence is his only bane, i cant think of any hero right now...maybe some permabasher like troll with low manapool or something.
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Old 10-10-2010, 09:19 AM   #22
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Some pros level Spell Shield first and skip Mana Break nowadays
well and if you are a pro, then u don't have a problem to deal with am anyway.
and btw, they don't skip it, they just leave it at lvl1.
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Old 10-10-2010, 09:24 AM   #23
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Lion does pretty well against him early game. However if he maxes spell shield first then it becomes pretty damn hard to take him down.
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Old 10-10-2010, 09:25 AM   #24
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Get Huskar and harrass the hell out of him. Magina can't kill you with manaburn and can't withstand Burning Spears without regen. Orb-walking will prevent him from farming as he will have to Blink out and play passively without having chance to lasthit or die from BS.
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Astral spam early, orb ignores Spellshield and get hex/orchid for blink. Magina will drop within three hits.
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:14 AM   #27
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OD idd.
Btw i'd say the classic doom.
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u can try use shadow demon first skill ur burn his mana or gank him
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:25 AM   #29
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Pugna rapes him imo. Well i wouldn't get heroes to antipick him, rather items.

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Old 10-10-2010, 10:31 AM   #30
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Lion can combo him to death. He blinks in, you do the rest. Ethereal Blade + Impale + FoD + Voodoo + Dagon = GG.
Or just simply kill him with 15 mines placed carefully by the awesome Techies
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:37 AM   #31
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doom prevents him from blink escaping -> gg magina

there is also a delay before he blinks so if you stun him he wont blink
sniper with level 4 headshot and a fast attack can prevent him from blinking (away) multiple times
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:40 AM   #32
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oh well even, destroyer can pwn magina cuz of the high manapool
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Old 10-10-2010, 11:34 PM   #33
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Any hero with low-mana cost spells and a very small mana pool. AKA PA.

Bloodseeker also does very well against AM.
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Old 10-11-2010, 12:24 AM   #34
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slardar, void, pa.

seeker shouldnt have much chances, especially when AM gets basher.
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Old 10-11-2010, 12:33 AM   #35
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Gank him and you will be fine.

Now seriously.
Mortred, I mean she does not need mana at all, just one blink strike and you will get fucked up.

Tauren Chieftain, Oh hey, fuck you magic resistance, I have natural order AND YOUR SHIT RESISTANCE IS FOR FAGS.

Huskar, No need for mana.
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Oh yeah, TC's Aura and AA's Vortex cancel Spell Shield entirely as well as dropping his magic resistance further.
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u can try use shadow demon first skill ur burn his mana or gank him
i hate it when shadow demon uses that shit on me when im AM. Images always burn up all my mana QQ
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:13 AM   #38
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Shadow demon+guinsoo= 0 mana magina. A 0 mana magina can't do shit.
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:18 AM   #39
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Get Doom Bringer or Bloodseeker, they're pretty good at shutting him down...
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Old 10-11-2010, 03:20 AM   #40
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If he is just a good player you cant counter him but get owned until you skill up enough to be able to out farm him and outplay him.

theres no such thing as countering a hero but how to counter a player(most of the time).

Really do you think some guy has been playing this game for 4 years and got no results.

be as ignorant as you want but AM isnt as easy as people make him out to be, some times youll owm him and sometimes his just a good player that you cant own him...
Really! I agree.
There is no such thing as exact anti-hero... although, some heroes would make him dead if played by both skilled players. But put in mind that Dota is a team battle, it depends on how well your coordination are (including hero pick combination), usually games are bound to end this way (though, it's not always the case). when you win, meaning you've got better skills than your enemy. lol.
honestly, i hate AM so much, it's so hard to kill him but i don't use him personally. But i usually counter him with void.
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