[TWEAK] Re-summoning Bear

[NoThlnG]

Simple one again

Auto-return on re-summoning Bear instead of just full hp heal.

It makes more sense and to prevent some imbaness

[Dynes]

The "sense" given by returning bear originates from the standard summoning found on WCIII, like Lycan's wolves (resummoning them in effect refills their hp, but returns them back to you). This current implementation is a step away from the norm, and unlike the wolves, the Bear already has a leash range. Plus the older version just brings the bear back to you, without HP refill.

I'd rather have that Return ability on Sylla's skillset, as one poster mentioned.

[DracoLich]

return on Hero itself, or this suggestion, make bear unkillable.

[Bad Apple]

There's already a return function on the bear so...

[NoThlnG]

I mean when you re-summon again, currently, it'll only refill Bear's hp.

What I suggest => Makes Bear return to hero (Syllabear) together with refill.

@Dynes : Return on Syllabear is other problem (and I support as well). This is more to reduce abuse/imbaness new can bring.

[pichu89]

t-up.
teddy has radiance*
teddy chases me
teddy is attacked
teddy bleeds
teddy is resummoned
teddy chases again
teddy owns
:*(

[jojoba]

nah.. it's actually a buff for him

[NoThlnG]

Originally Posted by jojoba

nah.. it's actually a buff for him

The current change is actually a buff (the 6.69 changes) but what I suggest is actually a nerf...

[jojoba]

i though with that buff (current change) he is fine now. so dont nerf him again. that's what i mean. =)

[NoThlnG]

Originally Posted by jojoba

i though with that buff (current change) he is fine now. so dont nerf him again. that's what i mean. =)

Problem is, this buff has some aspect where it can be abused/imba as pichu89 said

[jojoba]

meh... u sure it was that imba.. just kill the syla if the bear is unkillable. if u cant kill the syla, u deserved to killed by him then

[Captain Planet]

Originally Posted by NoThlnG

I mean when you re-summon again, currently, it'll only refill Bear's hp.

What I suggest => Makes Bear return to hero (Syllabear) together with refill.

@Dynes : Return on Syllabear is other problem (and I support as well). This is more to reduce abuse/imbaness new can bring.

I get what you are trying to suggest. It would make it more in keeping with other summong skills but Silly's bear is a bit different...

I've never played Sillybear so I don't really know which would be best. I have to say T-null, not because I don't care, but because I don't know enough It *seems* reasonable and would reduce abuse but again, I don't know enough to say yae or nay. Leaning towards a T-up tho

[Dynes]

This suggestion states that whenever you cast "Spirit Bear", the bear will always return to your side, with full HP.

Originally Posted by IceFrog

Lone Druid
- Leash range increased to 1100
- True Form movement speed from 270 to 280
- The "-ms" command now shows the movement speed of your Spirit Bear as well (298418)
- Spirit Bear attack point improved
- Fixed common scenarios where Spirit Bear would miss its attack as the target was moving
- Casting Summon Spirit Bear while the bear is still alive will restore that bear's health instead of not allowing you to cast.

Its what's changed recently.


More like return the bear to you if its out of leash range when Spirit Bear is cast.

[DracoLich]

sylla + gem/rapire - u will never loose it -_-

[jojoba]

Originally Posted by DracoLich

sylla + gem/rapire - u will never loose it -_-

when syla is dead, the bear will dead as well, will it?

[DracoLich]

but bear could just move around all ward places with ally range hero, while hero itself farming. and this gem is ndroppable.

[trepe]

Originally Posted by DracoLich

but bear could just move around all ward places with ally range hero, while hero itself farming. and this gem is ndroppable.

So why don't we just change the bear concept to the normal hero type where it can drop? [If you meant the Gem item]

Because if the bear cannot heal then why make it a skill at all -.-" you mean what?
You want the bear to return to the fountain in order to heal? ! ? ! >.<ll
At some point in time the bear still needs to re-spawn to full health you know -.-
you can't expect it to act like a hero right ZzzZZZZ
T-Down

[Dynes]

Originally Posted by DracoLich

but bear could just move around all ward places with ally range hero, while hero itself farming. and this gem is ndroppable.

What's the difference between that and then?

[DracoLich]

difference:
before, u could permastun bear, so it couldnt Return to hero.
now, he could refresh hp instantly to max.
and here - he could blink to hero regardless, stunned bear or not.
thats the difference, that bear is uncatchable -_-

[e6blk]

Let`s make Summon Spirit bear autocastable !