Originally Posted by R1skTak3r
Well first of all good luck keeping the topic clean, cause I think that might be a problem in case it is a successful debate.
In general I am AGAINST SSM, which shouldent be confused with being against homosexuality, which I am not!
Now to further explain my opinion -
Homosexuality is abnormal (which shouldent be inferred as bad), I think theres a a consensus on that, and something abnormal shouldent intertwine with a normal procedure like the marital institution.
This isnt to say gay couples shouldent exist, its just to say I think they shouldent be allowed to formally marry, or have a baby together.
What anyone shoves up their ass is their own private business, but in a functioning society some borders need to be set, in order to maintain some sort of balance.
Why cant a man decide to marry his horse? that is if he loves him? or his computer since he loves porn? perhaps his daughter if she agrees?
I know this sounds radical and absurd but hey 50 years ago if you said the words gay and marriage together you would become a laughingstock.
Also on a side note its a bit selfish for a gay couple to have a baby, knowing full well they are incapable of giving the same things a hetro couple can, not to mention the kid growing up in a very tough environment socially, which never spells well for his mental health.
Gay couples wanna be together forever, fine, have some sort of partnership papers or something of that sort, but the marriage institution IMO is sacred, and is, btw, one of the last remaining hetro havens.
1- how is monogamy "normal" at all? How do you define "normal"? Because, if you look at how our biology and psychology is geared, we really shouldn't be as monogamous as we are today. This idea of monogamy is mostly bred from an aversion to jealousy, but you can hardly say that's an area for the government to go into.
So why is it that it's perfectly "normal" for a man and woman to get married, but not a man and another man, when not only is our species not specifically geared for a monogamous male-female relationship, but there are other animals that conduct homosexual acts?
FURTHERMORE, why is it that marriage should be sacred? According to whom/what? The Bible? Marriage ceremonies were conducted long before the advent of monotheism, and they never spelled out "gays cannot be 'married'". Who is to define what marriage is? If we let religion define it, how are we not breaking the separation of church in state, our first amendment?
2- Why is it that children raised by homosexual parents are abnormal? I have yet to see any scientific evidence agreeing with this - on the contrary, all the evidence I've seen from various sources has said that either the kids turn out as normal as hetero-children, or even more normal.
That said, if we're so worried about how children are being raised, why is it that heterosexual couples can get married but have a higher chance of getting divorced, yet it's perfectly fine for them to have children and try to split those children? Going based on divorce rates we should be ENCOURAGING homosexual couples to adopt, shouldn't we?
Here's the thing: The whole idea of "children need a male and female role model" are ridiculous. They need both models to do what? Be "normal"? As normal as any other angst-filled rebellious teen in America? Can a masculine gay man and feminine gay man not raise children, then? What about a feminine male and feminine female?
The idea stems from the conservative viewpoint that because "that's how it's always been done", it should continue to be done that way. Except that homosexuality has been around in human culture for milennia. Why is it bad now?