MKB's Ministun's Bonus Damage

Shadow Fury · 10-20-2010, 05:27 AM

Lancer's illusions don't proc the 100 damage, right?

DracoLich · 10-20-2010, 05:41 AM

yes they doesnt

DoppelDope · 10-20-2010, 07:16 AM

Do they proc the stun, though? Or is it that "fake" stun thing?

JaCKaSS_69 · 10-20-2010, 07:21 AM

fake-stun.

Shadow Fury · 10-20-2010, 09:54 AM

Any item except Radiance and Diffusal that can be abused by Illusions?

EebstertheGreat · 10-20-2010, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by God of Death

Any item except Radiance and Diffusal that can be abused by Illusions?

Boots, Yasha, SnY, Manta, Eul's (ms only)
AC (IAS aura only)
Stats (but int is basically irrelevant)

Diffusal is always your best bet.

Lordshinjo · 10-20-2010, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EebstertheGreat

Boots, Yasha, SnY, Manta, Eul's (ms only)

Actually, the attack speed from Yasha, SnY and Manta is also given to illusions (because it comes from the Endurance Aura too).

I'd also add Critical Strike to the list.

Ner'zhul · 10-20-2010, 10:39 AM

Illusions

Quote:

Passives that Illusions Retain

Evasion
Critical Strike (it should be noted that the red number is before the illusion reduction)
Feedback (melee illusions only)
Movespeed (flat and percentage)
Attribute bonus (Strength, agility and intelligence)
Flat HP or mana
True Sight
Radiance burn (but it still won't work on a unit already being burned by Radiance)
Endurance Aura
Quelling Blade's demolish
Some Hero-Particular Passives
- Counter Helix
- Return (deals only 10 damage)

Sinisterz · 10-20-2010, 11:09 AM

Fake bashing after the real bash will prolong the bash duration and vice versa

Don't know if Basher applies here

Der_kleine_Tomy · 10-20-2010, 11:16 AM

Basher is triggered to not work on illusions.

Adun · 10-20-2010, 11:39 AM

OMG GoD asked something.

MauranKilom · 10-20-2010, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ner'zhul

Some Hero-Particular Passives
* Counter Helix
* Bristleback
* Backtrack
* Craggy Exterior
* Return

Only the things they are based on, right? (brilliance aura in the case of axe etc.)

antiweltteilchen · 10-20-2010, 01:27 PM

no, it includes the full effect.

Ner'zhul · 10-20-2010, 01:31 PM

Well, Counter Helix works perfectly fine, and Return deals only 10 damage (no 50% STR damage). I don't know why Craggy Exterior, Bristleback and Backtrack are there. They don't work.

brb editing previous post

SenshiNoRyu · 10-20-2010, 11:31 PM

I would just point out TRUE SIGHT (from Nehr'Zul list) as this can be really game breaking on heroes like lancer or spectre (many illusions/global illusions). Good thing to abuse

PEW_PEW · 10-21-2010, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ner'zhul

I don't know why Craggy Exterior, Bristleback and Backtrack are there. They don't work.

Out dated info. When I wrote the wiki post they did work, or I thought they worked. :P

Editing now.

Glowackos · 10-22-2010, 08:29 AM

Don't forget Gem!
I'd say having image scouts with true sight is quite abusable.

10-20-2010, 05:27 AM	#1
Shadow Fury Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Draining Your Life Juice. Posts: 10,187 Blog Entries: 2	MKB's Ministun's Bonus Damage Lancer's illusions don't proc the 100 damage, right?

10-20-2010, 07:16 AM	#3
DoppelDope Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 156	Re: MKB's Ministun's Bonus Damage Do they proc the stun, though? Or is it that "fake" stun thing?

10-20-2010, 07:21 AM	#4
JaCKaSS_69 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,145	Re: MKB's Ministun's Bonus Damage fake-stun. __________________ 98% of people have no idea of mechanics, if you are one of the 2% nerds put this in your sig

10-20-2010, 09:54 AM	#5
Shadow Fury Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Draining Your Life Juice. Posts: 10,187 Blog Entries: 2	Re: MKB's Ministun's Bonus Damage Any item except Radiance and Diffusal that can be abused by Illusions?

10-20-2010, 11:09 AM	#9
Sinisterz Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,481	Re: MKB's Ministun's Bonus Damage Fake bashing after the real bash will prolong the bash duration and vice versa Don't know if Basher applies here __________________ Buff Silencer! Make Last Word more annoying! Buff! Give Radiance more usage!

10-20-2010, 11:16 AM	#10
Der_kleine_Tomy Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 571	Re: MKB's Ministun's Bonus Damage Basher is triggered to not work on illusions.

10-20-2010, 11:39 AM	#11
Adun Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,153	Re: MKB's Ministun's Bonus Damage OMG GoD asked something. __________________ ˙ʎǝʞ ɐʇǝq 2 ɐʇop ɐ ɟo ɹǝuʍo pnoɹd ǝɥʇ

10-20-2010, 01:27 PM	#13
antiweltteilchen Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: germany Posts: 3,252	Re: MKB's Ministun's Bonus Damage no, it includes the full effect. __________________ My Preciousssss crdits to Infrisios for avatar :>

10-20-2010, 01:31 PM	#14
Ner'zhul Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mechanics Posts: 36	Re: MKB's Ministun's Bonus Damage Well, Counter Helix works perfectly fine, and Return deals only 10 damage (no 50% STR damage). I don't know why Craggy Exterior, Bristleback and Backtrack are there. They don't work. brb editing previous post

10-20-2010, 11:31 PM	#15
SenshiNoRyu Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 284	Re: MKB's Ministun's Bonus Damage I would just point out TRUE SIGHT (from Nehr'Zul list) as this can be really game breaking on heroes like lancer or spectre (many illusions/global illusions). Good thing to abuse

10-22-2010, 08:29 AM	#17
Glowackos Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 453	Re: MKB's Ministun's Bonus Damage Don't forget Gem! I'd say having image scouts with true sight is quite abusable. __________________ Play YouTD!