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Old 10-30-2010, 06:13 AM   #1
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Default Aghanim for Ogre-Magi again [Re-Balanced]


I miss the day when Ogre-Magi was with burning stick.
So here is the deal:


Current Ogre-Magi's Multi Cast Times:
Level 1: 25% chance for 2x.
Level 2: 40% chance for 2x, 20% chance for 3x.
Level 3: 50% chance for 2x, 25% chance for 3x, 12.5% chance for 4x.


Upgraded Suggestion:
Level 1: 25% chance for 3x.
Level 2: 40% chance for 3x, 20% chance for 4x.
Level 3: 50% chance for 3x, 25% chance for 4x, 12.5% chance for 5x.

Just a signle bonus cast time.



Fireblast
Before the mana cost of Fireblast was increased with 30/70/110 for each level of Multi Cast spell.
With Aghanim's Scepter now they are 70/110/150 for each level of Multi Cast spell.

Before level 4 Fireblast with level 3 Multi Cast was 215 mana cost.
Now level 4 Fireblast with level 3 Multi Cast and Aghanim's Scepter is 255 mana cost. (which will make the item even less "musthave", but not rejected)


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Before the Area of Effect (AoE) was increased with 150/300/450 units for each level of Multi Cast spell.
With Aghanim's Scepter now they are 300/450/600 for each level of Multi Cast spell.

Before level 4 Ignite with level 3 Multi Cast was 450 units of AoE.
Now level 4 Ignite with level 3 Multi Cast and Aghanim's Scepter is 600 units of AoE. (another booster for the ultimate which is not my primary idea, and can be excluded)




Pros:
- Aghanim's Scepter will be usable for Ogre again in effective way.
- Bloodlust for all, yey!


Cons:
- Some of you might say the multicast chance/times are too much, but as you might remember before 6.60 ver. it was 30% chance for 5x times.
- Mana cost requied for Fireblast increased.


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Old 10-30-2010, 10:14 AM   #2
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Default Re: Aghanim for Ogre-Magi again [Balanced]

What the damn! you receive 825 nuke every 12 sec at lvl 16
ofc it would it is 50% friggin chance to make 3x multicast.

Nah, sorry i dont think he needs aghanims at all.
let me see what others think
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:21 AM   #3
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Default Re: Aghanim for Ogre-Magi again [Balanced]

Loved 5x MC and I want it again.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:25 AM   #4
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Default Re: Aghanim for Ogre-Magi again [Balanced]

me no like
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:26 AM   #5
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Default Re: Aghanim for Ogre-Magi again [Balanced]

I'd say this suggestion is plain and simple, and I don't think Aghs will be either musthave or a rejected item for Ogre = OK.

Still, I wonder, if we will have Ogre MC'ing with items using Aghs in Dota 2
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:29 AM   #6
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Default Re: Aghanim for Ogre-Magi again [Balanced]

Yeah, thats the idea. It won't be musthave or rejected item. Still blademail with bloodstone is better combo than a single aghanim or agha with bm.
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Old 10-30-2010, 12:12 PM   #7
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Default Re: Aghanim for Ogre-Magi again [Balanced]

This is probably the best way to give Agha stick to Dum-Dum IMO, since it gives him bit more power in late game.

T-UP, if this is anyway too overpowered, consider increasing bit manacost?
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Old 10-30-2010, 01:03 PM   #8
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Default Re: Aghanim for Ogre-Magi again [Balanced]

Good idea. ^if too OP.
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Old 10-30-2010, 03:13 PM   #9
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Default Re: Aghanim for Ogre-Magi again [Balanced]

T-up then why not just add a CD? maybe 10 sec. will do
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Old 10-30-2010, 04:11 PM   #10
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Default Re: Aghanim for Ogre-Magi again [Balanced]

Aghanim must give only plus stuffs.
There is no point to increase mana cost or cooldown to balance the having of Agha and vice versa. There must be only positive sides of having it and if you still think 50% chance for 3x cast times is too much, then 50 for 2x, 25 for 4x and 12.5 for 5x will just work fine too, but I'm still up for one cast time per chance increase.
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:57 PM   #11
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Default Re: Aghanim for Ogre-Magi again [Balanced]

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Originally Posted by kom4o View Post
Aghanim must give only plus stuffs.
There is no point to increase mana cost or cooldown to balance the having of Agha and vice versa.
Puck's Agha increases manacost IIRC, unless it has been removed already.
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Old 11-01-2010, 07:28 AM   #12
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Default Re: Aghanim for Ogre-Magi again [Balanced]

oh, right, well thats idea too, his manacost is high enough anyway and a bit increasing (as for a level up) will be fair enough then
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:28 PM   #13
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Default Re: Aghanim for Ogre-Magi again [Re-Balanced]

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