[small buff] Bone 'Clinkz' Fletcher

JeanLucPicard · 12-22-2010, 01:31 AM

This is a very simple and a very needed (imo) buff for Bone.

Change his attack animation from: 0.7 / 0.3 to: something less retarded (0.4 / 0.5 ?).

For the people who don't get the above row of text: its a simple buff to how many days (

) pass from the moment you right click your target, till bone fires an arrow)...

Nanaya Shiki · 12-22-2010, 04:34 AM

I still remember how Nv.Fear ownage with his Divine Raper Clinkz.

Dzin-Zakk · 12-22-2010, 04:53 AM

I have also a question regarding the mechanics: the IAS reduces the attack animation, right? So how much does Strafe decrease Clinkz's?

T-up on the suggestion, it is quite understandable on Rylai but not on Clinkz.

Nanaya Shiki · 12-22-2010, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dzin-Zakk

I have also a question regarding the mechanics: the IAS reduces the attack animation, right?

No. It just reduce the backswing animation.
And both of you should know that Ice Frog just nerfed Clinkz's ulti.

DracoLich · 12-22-2010, 06:26 AM

tup for lina, not for this badass

JeanLucPicard · 12-22-2010, 06:25 PM

@^^
badass bone?
currently he cant solo well, in dual lane he needs a babysitter, and is still very vulnerable to ganks, and in 3-lane he loses to much xp early on = low HP and (unlike morph/potm for example) doesn't have a reliable escape skill; dust/sentry > ww on a low hp hero.
So please explain how can you farm with this hero without having a seriously overfarmed nevermore/storm/invoker on the other side (not to mention that all of these heroes can kill your bone ass in a solo lane).

DracoLich · 12-22-2010, 06:35 PM

please explain to me sense of fix hero which unuseable in any conditions, while lina, really useful hero, still have OMFG ICEFROG IS RETARD animation?

Monsterlord · 12-22-2010, 08:01 PM

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doesn't have a reliable escape skill; dust/sentry > ww on a low hp hero.

Dust and sentries do fuck all when you have max ms. Get a Linkens or bkb and you will never die.

JeanLucPicard · 12-22-2010, 10:08 PM

@ Monsterlord
the problem is in the laning ... when you dont have bkb, mkb and pt... and yes we are of topic...

@ DracoLich
You obviously missed the old days when roshan didn't drop the aegis (it could be purchased, and was very different), and when bone was a (very) competitive pick...

Also why do I need to explain why I want to buff a "hero which unuseable in any conditions" and not a competitive pick + pubstomp hero in one (lina) who actually finds her poor attack animation sometimes useful (mindgames with "stop spamming"/ LSA casting)? Isn't it F***** obvious?

DracoLich · 12-23-2010, 05:51 AM

^then try mindgames with BF too.
and ye, maybe i missed something, but only BF which was really good, was Vigoss's BF at .43

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Originally Posted by Monsterlord

Dust and sentries do fuck all when you have max ms. Get a Linkens or bkb and you will never die.

max ms du fuck at all when u take stun to face

Monsterlord · 12-23-2010, 06:35 AM

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@ Monsterlord
the problem is in the laning ... when you dont have bkb, mkb and pt... and yes we are of topic...

You've got a high damage orbwalking skill. Clinks does fine in lane.

Dzin-Zakk · 12-23-2010, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokokichi2

No. It just reduce the backswing animation.
And both of you should know that Ice Frog just nerfed Clinkz's ulti.

So you say that some characters can't strike faster than their attack animation? That would mean Lina can't attack faster than once in 0.7 secs which interferes with Fiery Soul.

I think you're wrong.

@Monster look at it as on a christmas wish: that is a small tweak which would be very helpful.

JeanLucPicard · 12-23-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzin-Zakk

look at it as on a christmas wish: that is a small tweak which would be very helpful.

^^ this

Dr_JP · 12-23-2010, 05:15 PM

Though I don't like, I got to agree with Dracolich.

Bone has an orb-walk...and a lot of dmg (for early game) with only 8 mana cost. He can last hit somewhat easily, because he does not need to wait an almost dead creep to blow it. I don't need to say about harrassing with orb-walk + 600 range, right?

If you care about initiating attacks from invisibility, break invisibility with Strafe and right click immediatly: his huge attack speed decreases a lot his attack animation.

That exists to limit the various "walk and hit" attacks he would be able to do after any enemy could scape from his AoE (and after Strafe duration, ofc).

Really t-down.

ninguem · 12-24-2010, 12:28 AM

So 0.7 frontswing animation is bad for Clinks but OK on Drow Ranger, eh?
-- The Drow Ranger equality initiative

JeanLucPicard · 12-24-2010, 12:59 AM

drow has also a crappy animation, but she's close to imba now, and i didn't wanna touch that wasp nest

Monsterlord · 12-24-2010, 07:11 AM

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drow has also a crappy animation, but she's close to imba now, and i didn't wanna touch that wasp nest

No she isn't. She'd a fad pick.

Mabaet · 12-25-2010, 03:41 PM

Fix also Aka's and Zues' and Chen's

JeanLucPicard · 12-31-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Monsterlord

No she isn't. She'd a fad pick.

fad=?...

Monsterlord · 12-31-2010, 05:53 PM

Fad pick as in a "fashionable" pick. One that people only pick because everyone else is.

12-22-2010, 01:31 AM	#1
JeanLucPicard Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 248	[small buff] Bone 'Clinkz' Fletcher This is a very simple and a very needed (imo) buff for Bone. Change his attack animation from: 0.7 / 0.3 to: something less retarded (0.4 / 0.5 ?). For the people who don't get the above row of text: its a simple buff to how many days ( ) pass from the moment you right click your target, till bone fires an arrow)... __________________ BUFF BONE CLINKZ!

12-22-2010, 04:34 AM	#2
Nanaya Shiki Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,427	Re: [small buff] Bone 'Clinkz' Fletcher I still remember how Nv.Fear ownage with his Divine Raper Clinkz. __________________

12-22-2010, 04:53 AM	#3
Dzin-Zakk Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: You can't nuke my home! Posts: 2,221 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [small buff] Bone 'Clinkz' Fletcher I have also a question regarding the mechanics: the IAS reduces the attack animation, right? So how much does Strafe decrease Clinkz's? T-up on the suggestion, it is quite understandable on Rylai but not on Clinkz. __________________

12-22-2010, 06:25 PM	#6
JeanLucPicard Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 248	Re: [small buff] Bone 'Clinkz' Fletcher @^^ badass bone? currently he cant solo well, in dual lane he needs a babysitter, and is still very vulnerable to ganks, and in 3-lane he loses to much xp early on = low HP and (unlike morph/potm for example) doesn't have a reliable escape skill; dust/sentry > ww on a low hp hero. So please explain how can you farm with this hero without having a seriously overfarmed nevermore/storm/invoker on the other side (not to mention that all of these heroes can kill your bone ass in a solo lane). __________________ BUFF BONE CLINKZ!

12-22-2010, 10:08 PM	#9
JeanLucPicard Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 248	Re: [small buff] Bone 'Clinkz' Fletcher @ Monsterlord the problem is in the laning ... when you dont have bkb, mkb and pt... and yes we are of topic... @ DracoLich You obviously missed the old days when roshan didn't drop the aegis (it could be purchased, and was very different), and when bone was a (very) competitive pick... Also why do I need to explain why I want to buff a "hero which unuseable in any conditions" and not a competitive pick + pubstomp hero in one (lina) who actually finds her poor attack animation sometimes useful (mindgames with "stop spamming"/ LSA casting)? Isn't it F***** obvious? __________________ BUFF BONE CLINKZ!

12-24-2010, 12:28 AM	#15
ninguem Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 613	Re: [small buff] Bone 'Clinkz' Fletcher So 0.7 frontswing animation is bad for Clinks but OK on Drow Ranger, eh? -- The Drow Ranger equality initiative

12-24-2010, 12:59 AM	#16
JeanLucPicard Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 248	Re: [small buff] Bone 'Clinkz' Fletcher drow has also a crappy animation, but she's close to imba now, and i didn't wanna touch that wasp nest __________________ BUFF BONE CLINKZ!

12-25-2010, 03:41 PM	#18
Mabaet Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 138	Re: [small buff] Bone 'Clinkz' Fletcher Fix also Aka's and Zues' and Chen's

12-31-2010, 05:53 PM	#20
Monsterlord Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,837	Re: [small buff] Bone 'Clinkz' Fletcher Fad pick as in a "fashionable" pick. One that people only pick because everyone else is.