[ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity

Hero Hunter · 09-12-2009, 04:38 PM

Eul's Scepter of Divinity

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Old

(1000) +

(875) +

(325) +

(600)

Gold: 2800

+10 intelligence
+125% mana regeneration
+20 movement speed
+Cyclone

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New

(1000) +

(875) +

(500) +

(425)

Total: 2800

+10 Intelligence
+100% Mana Regeneration
+1 Mana Regeneration Aura
+3 Armor Aura
+20 Movement Speed
+Cyclone

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Cyclone

Cyclones a target unit, making it invulnerable and unable to act. Can target enemies or self. Costs 75 mana, has a 25 second cooldown, and a 600 cast range. Lasts 3 seconds.

Changelog

Hero Hunter · 09-13-2009, 10:39 AM

Sorry for the double post, but I'd like some comments.

Beauty.Yu · 09-13-2009, 01:23 PM

i agreee tis post=)
i think the old eul... the repice i hope it can be cheaper...
is too expensiveT_T

Witchking · 09-14-2009, 08:02 AM

Don't like this ... magic wand is a healing item and you make it into a castable item, which has nothing to do with health regen. If this change was implemented, I probably would never upgrade my wand to Euls... Furthermore, everytime someone casts a spell, you get a charge? Wut? I mean, then you will effectively have 6 charges all the time. 5 seconds disable. Are you really serious?

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i think the old eul... the repice i hope it can be cheaper...
is too expensiveT_T

Troll? There are far more expensive recipes in Dota or standalone items ...

Necro · 09-14-2009, 09:01 AM

^But Eul's is bad ATM. Just something more, how about it also heals you when you cast Cyclone? Say 50 HP per charge (total 300 with 6 charges).

Witchking · 09-14-2009, 09:47 AM

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^But Eul's is bad ATM. Just something more,

No. It's a cheaper version of Guinsoo for heroes that need mana reg and a quick disable. It's just overshadowed by Guinsoo. You either need to remake it completely or leave it like it is. What OP proposed here is an unlovely and forced mix of magic wand and Euls.

Think once again about your proposal of an additional heal on cast. That would be plain imba for that price.

AbyssPetra · 09-14-2009, 12:07 PM

Too Much effects..i think the only possible is 5-6 effect.

NoThlnG · 09-14-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AbyssPetra

Too Much effects..i think the only possible is 5-6 effect.

That's one example. Furthermore, if you upgrade Magic Wand, then you should take it's healing and mana regen abilities not just charges...

Audacious · 09-14-2009, 01:38 PM

Hell no. Over my dead body.

No wand for me.

T-down.

Take the wand out and we might talk.

Hero Hunter · 09-14-2009, 04:00 PM

I changed Magic Wand to Scroll. Let's face the problem: currently nobody buys Eul's (maybe Rhasta and Techies do, but...).

Ety · 09-14-2009, 04:12 PM

I think having the enemy swing in the air for 3 or 5 seconds doesn't make any bigger difference since Cyclone is used to prevent the enemy from escaping and to catch him

3 seconds is enough to catch him

5 seconds would actually screw you up because by the time he lands on the ground, his allies will come

I personally never buy Eul (never tried it) so T-null

Banned.Comic · 09-15-2009, 10:15 PM

I really don't know how old this post is xD
But anyway, you can't judge a post by it's age...

Well, I agree on the fact that it's too strong now. The recipe is fine now though. Seems like you did get some problems with it before.

But let me suggest something that might save this recipes life (if it even has a life xD).

The charge system is good enough for now, in my opinion, but change it too the following.

Whenever you cast a cyclone with Eul's Scepter of Divinity your charges will be reset to 0, because you used all the power stored up inside the Scepter. So if you cast your cyclone of level 6, you will have to wait for the enemy to cast enough spells in order for the Scepter to be powerfull enough again.
You can also change the cap by letting it only increase for 0.25 / charge.

So I suggested the following.
0 charges = 2.00 seconds
1 charges = 2.25 seconds
2 charges = 2.50 seconds
3 charges = 2.75 seconds
4 charges = 3.00 seconds
5 charges = 3.25 seconds
6 charges = 3.50 seconds
7 charges = 3.75 seconds
8 charges = 4.00 seconds
9 charges = 4.25 seconds

And if you got the Scepter filled up to 9 charges and cast a cyclone, it will be reset too 0.

Chris_ · 10-31-2009, 01:39 AM

I dont want dota to be like

When this happens then this results.
its like dagger or heart.., when under attack then no blink or regen

5chneemensch · 10-31-2009, 03:23 AM

AFAIK there can only be 4 effects per item (rest is triggered)

I like the idea with charges, but not with Basilus

SolBadGuyX · 10-31-2009, 03:31 AM

Hmm, I kind of like your item make up for this, and the benefits are greater for your version but I do have one problem that I am not liking, and thats the charges for the wand. I like your build up for the scepter, but i just cant agree with the charges. Just make the wands tornado the same but keep the item build.

Wimpex · 10-31-2009, 05:16 AM

agree with adding of charges, but stay recipe as it is... +)

iValorian · 11-22-2009, 12:37 PM

T-up, I like the idea.
but it needs to be a tad cheaper, it's too un-affordable right now.

Repeats · 11-22-2009, 09:27 PM

The charges are way way too out of hand... 1 charge per any kill or deny? wtf? a 5 second cyclone is actually a nerf in some senses as the timing for team help will be way way off.

I support the recipe change with RoB, but the charges are just rediculous in both a good and bad way. Please remove it since you no longer used wand in the recipe...

Dynes · 11-23-2009, 03:39 AM

The gaining of charges based on kill/deny is a definite nono...

Maybe on spell cast, and maybe just up to 4 seconds max duration.

Audacious · 11-23-2009, 04:11 AM

Need a chancelog but we are getting there I suppose.

I think that the seconds per charge is way to good to ever get implied into DotA.
The 2.5sec if fine with me.

09-13-2009, 10:39 AM	#2
Hero Hunter Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 999	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity Sorry for the double post, but I'd like some comments.

09-13-2009, 01:23 PM	#3
Beauty.Yu Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity i agreee tis post=) i think the old eul... the repice i hope it can be cheaper... is too expensiveT_T __________________ My GanG.Yenio ;D

Last edited by Beauty.Yu; 09-13-2009 at 01:26 PM.

09-14-2009, 09:01 AM	#5
Necro Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: India Posts: 1,506	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity ^But Eul's is bad ATM. Just something more, how about it also heals you when you cast Cyclone? Say 50 HP per charge (total 300 with 6 charges). __________________ Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain. Puck Aghanim's Effect \| Invoker Victory Animation \| Shapeshift Sound Against the Ropes on www.DotA-Allstars.com.

09-14-2009, 12:07 PM	#7
AbyssPetra Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NSW, Australia. Posts: 2,296 Blog Entries: 5	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity Too Much effects..i think the only possible is 5-6 effect.

09-14-2009, 01:38 PM	#9
Audacious Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the world Platon doesn't believe in. Posts: 5,603 Blog Entries: 10	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity Hell no. Over my dead body. No wand for me. T-down. Take the wand out and we might talk.

09-14-2009, 04:00 PM	#10
Hero Hunter Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 999	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity I changed Magic Wand to Scroll. Let's face the problem: currently nobody buys Eul's (maybe Rhasta and Techies do, but...).

Last edited by Hero Hunter; 09-14-2009 at 04:09 PM.

09-14-2009, 04:12 PM	#11
Ety Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 2,414	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity I think having the enemy swing in the air for 3 or 5 seconds doesn't make any bigger difference since Cyclone is used to prevent the enemy from escaping and to catch him 3 seconds is enough to catch him 5 seconds would actually screw you up because by the time he lands on the ground, his allies will come I personally never buy Eul (never tried it) so T-null

09-15-2009, 10:15 PM	#12
Banned.Comic Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: I live in Belgium, the land of beer and choclade!! =') Posts: 98	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity I really don't know how old this post is xD But anyway, you can't judge a post by it's age... Well, I agree on the fact that it's too strong now. The recipe is fine now though. Seems like you did get some problems with it before. But let me suggest something that might save this recipes life (if it even has a life xD). The charge system is good enough for now, in my opinion, but change it too the following. Whenever you cast a cyclone with Eul's Scepter of Divinity your charges will be reset to 0, because you used all the power stored up inside the Scepter. So if you cast your cyclone of level 6, you will have to wait for the enemy to cast enough spells in order for the Scepter to be powerfull enough again. You can also change the cap by letting it only increase for 0.25 / charge. So I suggested the following. 0 charges = 2.00 seconds 1 charges = 2.25 seconds 2 charges = 2.50 seconds 3 charges = 2.75 seconds 4 charges = 3.00 seconds 5 charges = 3.25 seconds 6 charges = 3.50 seconds 7 charges = 3.75 seconds 8 charges = 4.00 seconds 9 charges = 4.25 seconds And if you got the Scepter filled up to 9 charges and cast a cyclone, it will be reset too 0. __________________ If you are searching reviewers, click the icon above. My hero idea: : The Black Wolf - Haratha (click here.) : The Northspring Harpy - Edana Hatetalon (click here.)

10-31-2009, 01:39 AM	#13
Chris_ Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 261	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity I dont want dota to be like When this happens then this results. its like dagger or heart.., when under attack then no blink or regen

10-31-2009, 03:23 AM	#14
5chneemensch Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Hohenkirchen, Germany Posts: 7,505	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity AFAIK there can only be 4 effects per item (rest is triggered) I like the idea with charges, but not with Basilus __________________ My DotA2 inventory.

10-31-2009, 03:31 AM	#15
SolBadGuyX Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 537	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity Hmm, I kind of like your item make up for this, and the benefits are greater for your version but I do have one problem that I am not liking, and thats the charges for the wand. I like your build up for the scepter, but i just cant agree with the charges. Just make the wands tornado the same but keep the item build.

10-31-2009, 05:16 AM	#16
Wimpex Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 480	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity agree with adding of charges, but stay recipe as it is... +) __________________

11-22-2009, 12:37 PM	#17
iValorian Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 68	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity T-up, I like the idea. but it needs to be a tad cheaper, it's too un-affordable right now.

11-22-2009, 09:27 PM	#18
Repeats Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 494	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity The charges are way way too out of hand... 1 charge per any kill or deny? wtf? a 5 second cyclone is actually a nerf in some senses as the timing for team help will be way way off. I support the recipe change with RoB, but the charges are just rediculous in both a good and bad way. Please remove it since you no longer used wand in the recipe... __________________ - Medivh, The Spirit Keeper - Eldritch, the Blood Orc -[Remake] Unstable Concoction - Zephyr, The Wind Tempest

11-23-2009, 03:39 AM	#19
Dynes Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 3,865 Blog Entries: 4	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity The gaining of charges based on kill/deny is a definite nono... Maybe on spell cast, and maybe just up to 4 seconds max duration. __________________ Dynes: I don't believe you. /care ~~My suggestions on my blog.~~ I'll hand it over to DotA 2... for now.

11-23-2009, 04:11 AM	#20
Audacious Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the world Platon doesn't believe in. Posts: 5,603 Blog Entries: 10	Re: [ITEM] Eul's Scepter of Divinity Need a chancelog but we are getting there I suppose. I think that the seconds per charge is way to good to ever get implied into DotA. The 2.5sec if fine with me.