[Remake] Chen's Test of Faith

disturbedno0b · 12-24-2010, 05:43 AM

Old: Test of Faith

Test of Faith

If cast on enemy, will deal variable damage based on the unit's faith. If cast on allied Hero, it will teleport the hero to safety. Instantly teleports Chen's persuaded units to safety.

New: Test of Faith

Test of Faith

If cast on enemy, will deal variable damage based on the unit's faith.

Old: Holy Persuasion

Holy Persuasion

Takes control of a target enemy unit.

New: Holy Persuasion

Holy Persuasion

Takes control of a target enemy unit. If cast on allied Hero, it will teleport the hero to safety. Instantly teleports Chen's persuaded units to safety.

Its not for fit, its coz of balance, when in battle 5v5 sometimes i target wrong target, since this skill is doing dmg for enemy and teleport for allies.
Coz they will be different skills i think it would be cool

DracoLich · 12-24-2010, 06:15 AM

make difference in Bold.
cause i cant see it

Monsterlord · 12-24-2010, 07:04 AM

This kinda seems sensible tbh.

DracoLich · 12-24-2010, 07:07 AM

oh lol its different skills D:
tup

disturbedno0b · 12-25-2010, 05:42 PM

bump

Baldoro · 12-25-2010, 08:10 PM

Pretty much makes sense.
T-up.

Yosukea · 12-25-2010, 08:12 PM

great idea T-up

disturbedno0b · 01-26-2011, 03:45 PM

bump i want more views of the idea

JJE92 · 01-26-2011, 04:45 PM

Interesting idea, but that could make Test of Faith a useless skill, because nobody actually picks chen for damage. That's why I'm not convinced yet.
Null, the idea isn't bad, but it might lack in the workout.

_Aurora_ · 01-26-2011, 04:51 PM

T-up, I didn't get it in the 1st place though, had to read it twice

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-Zuni- · 01-26-2011, 04:52 PM

t-up

disturbedno0b · 01-26-2011, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJE92

Interesting idea, but that could make Test of Faith a useless skill, because nobody actually picks chen for damage. That's why I'm not convinced yet.
Null, the idea isn't bad, but it might lack in the workout.

Then what about:
Test of Faith
1lvl:50-100 Damage to foes, Holy Persuasion casting time lowered for 0 seconds
2lvl:100-200 Damage to foes, Holy Persuasion casting time lowered for 1 seconds
3lvl:150-300 Damage to foes, Holy Persuasion casting time lowered for 2 seconds
4lvl:200-400 Damage to foes, Holy Persuasion casting time lowered for 3 seconds

Or even it can be:
Test of Faith
1lvl:50-100 Damage to foes, Holy Persuasion casting time lowered for 0-1 seconds
2lvl:100-200 Damage to foes, Holy Persuasion casting time lowered for 1-2 seconds
3lvl:150-300 Damage to foes, Holy Persuasion casting time lowered for 2-3 seconds
4lvl:200-400 Damage to foes, Holy Persuasion casting time lowered for 3-4 seconds

1 sec less or more, anyway Test of Faith...

harerama · 02-09-2011, 10:04 AM

I have been thinking for ages to suggest the exact same thing.

It would be much better for chen. Especially in lategame where you actually can use your nuke in team clashes which means you cannot use your the teleport function.

While in early game it is either not skilled or you have mana issues. Considering that many chens in the later stages of the game dont use creeps to the extent they did in the early game (due to many reasons; among them the fact that creeps arent as influential plus potential active items hinder chen to use their abilities well - imagine 4 active abilities, his slow, his nuke, and probably 3 creep actives to control in a clash) this suggestion makes even more sense.

This suggestion should really be considered. Chen is not weak but this "tweak" would help him a little to perform his role as a support to a better extent.

disturbedno0b · 02-09-2011, 04:00 PM

Thanks for review and understanding!

Mr. Burns · 02-09-2011, 05:30 PM

T-up

Dr_JP · 02-09-2011, 08:29 PM

IMO, your suggestion makes all sense and is pretty positive.

However, I don't know why couldn't exist a sub-ability to differ both Test of Faith roles.

PS: Test of faith has nothing to do with saving allies units IMO.
Neither Holy persuasion has with saving allies...but, theme isn't that important and the practical consequences would be great if you're suggestion would be implemented.

Shion_no_Aries · 02-10-2011, 02:01 AM

t-up. Pretty nice. Holy Persuasion is useless during battles.

Mysteryos · 02-10-2011, 11:14 AM

Big T-up

Fate Trap · 02-10-2011, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_JP

IMO, your suggestion makes all sense and is pretty positive.

However, I don't know why couldn't exist a sub-ability to differ both Test of Faith roles.

PS: Test of faith has nothing to do with saving allies units IMO.
Neither Holy persuasion has with saving allies...but, theme isn't that important and the practical consequences would be great if you're suggestion would be implemented.

I T-up on a sub-ability when u skill Test of Faith

harerama · 02-11-2011, 12:04 PM

I just played a game with Chen where I not once used the teleport function. And when I see others playing Chen I see it once in mb 20 games. Dont think it is supposed to be like that.

12-24-2010, 07:04 AM	#3
Monsterlord Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,837	Re: [Remake] Chen's Test of Faith This kinda seems sensible tbh.

12-25-2010, 05:42 PM	#5
disturbedno0b Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 214	Re: [Remake] Chen's Test of Faith bump

12-25-2010, 08:10 PM	#6
Baldoro Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Poland Posts: 992	Re: [Remake] Chen's Test of Faith Pretty much makes sense. T-up. __________________ My Hero - Grothorned, The Kodo Rider! [Now with a wonderful test map by Lord of theDing!]

12-25-2010, 08:12 PM	#7
Yosukea Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 39	Re: [Remake] Chen's Test of Faith great idea T-up

01-26-2011, 03:45 PM	#8
disturbedno0b Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 214	Re: [Remake] Chen's Test of Faith bump i want more views of the idea

01-26-2011, 04:51 PM	#10
_Aurora_ Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland Posts: 1,914	Re: [Remake] Chen's Test of Faith T-up, I didn't get it in the 1st place though, had to read it twice . __________________ By Bardenne By Destiny PDIH How to get vouched into PDIH : http://www.playdota.com/forums/53910...h/#post2871131

01-26-2011, 04:52 PM	#11
-Zuni- Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Beta testing DOTA 2 Posts: 643	Re: [Remake] Chen's Test of Faith t-up __________________

02-09-2011, 10:04 AM	#13
harerama Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 34	Re: [Remake] Chen's Test of Faith I have been thinking for ages to suggest the exact same thing. It would be much better for chen. Especially in lategame where you actually can use your nuke in team clashes which means you cannot use your the teleport function. While in early game it is either not skilled or you have mana issues. Considering that many chens in the later stages of the game dont use creeps to the extent they did in the early game (due to many reasons; among them the fact that creeps arent as influential plus potential active items hinder chen to use their abilities well - imagine 4 active abilities, his slow, his nuke, and probably 3 creep actives to control in a clash) this suggestion makes even more sense. This suggestion should really be considered. Chen is not weak but this "tweak" would help him a little to perform his role as a support to a better extent.

02-09-2011, 04:00 PM	#14
disturbedno0b Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 214	Re: [Remake] Chen's Test of Faith Thanks for review and understanding!

02-09-2011, 05:30 PM	#15
Mr. Burns Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: In my mansion Posts: 5,050	Re: [Remake] Chen's Test of Faith T-up __________________ [filing out medical forms] Mr. Burns: Social security number? Naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, 2. Damn Roosevelt. Cause of parents death? Got in my way. Mr. Burns: I could crush him like an ant, but it would be too easy. No, revenge is a dish best served cold. I'll bide my time until... oh, what the hell, I'll just crush him like an ant.

02-10-2011, 02:01 AM	#17
Shion_no_Aries Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 56	Re: [Remake] Chen's Test of Faith t-up. Pretty nice. Holy Persuasion is useless during battles. __________________ http://www.playdota.com/forums/40455...k-gold-system/ http://www.playdota.com/forums/40532...ke-buff-dagon/

02-10-2011, 11:14 AM	#18
Mysteryos Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 74	Re: [Remake] Chen's Test of Faith Big T-up __________________

02-11-2011, 12:04 PM	#20
harerama Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 34	Re: [Remake] Chen's Test of Faith I just played a game with Chen where I not once used the teleport function. And when I see others playing Chen I see it once in mb 20 games. Dont think it is supposed to be like that.