[Skill] Steal Item

AbyssPetra · 09-13-2009, 07:38 AM

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STEAL ITEM (Active, Single-Enemy Hero)
Theme: Theif, Ninja[?]
Role: Disable

Description: Steals a random item from the victim inventory. Stolen item will be locked, un-dropable, un-use-able. Last until caster is killed, only 1 item per hero is able to steal.

Level 1 - Able to steal upto 1000g worth of item.
Level 2 - Able to steal upto 2000g worth of item.
Level 3 - Able to steal upto 3000g worth of item.
Level 4 - Able to steal any worth of item.

- Locked item will appear in gray/grey colour/color
- Stolen item doesnt mean caster will get the item but, disable them instead
- Last until death of victim or caster is killed
- Casting range is 150
- Casting time is 1 seconds

Cooldown: 15
Mana Cost: 125

Copy-able Skill Template

Reason why this is imba

[+]BKB
[+]BoT/Scroll of Teleport
[+]HoT
[+]Bloodstone
[+]GG Branch equals to un-use-able slot

Audacious · 09-13-2009, 07:52 AM

I was so ready to go berserk with reasons why this should be in the game.

But you thought it through.

Gj and actually a fairly balanced skill I might way.

R.U.Sty · 09-13-2009, 09:54 AM

Counter -> people mass gg branches!
The least cost worthy counter to any spell in the game lol!
Would be great for those hero's who start with boots and late game when most slots are taken with useful junk.

Siraraz · 09-13-2009, 10:12 AM

Can I steal Aegis?

Sgt Failure · 09-13-2009, 10:16 AM

Concept is fine, but perhaps the scaling instead could increase the maximum cost of items that it could steal, starting wiht 500, going to no cap. Keep cooldown at a lower amount, and give back item if you go to fountain.

AbyssPetra · 09-13-2009, 10:28 AM

@R.U.Sty
well rusty, even if they mass GG branch..the slot will still be useless. Means the victim will lose one slot, and you know carries needs item @ late game.

@APL
yeah, you can steal(lock) aegis. which is funny..Lol. Useless Aegis.

@Sarge
how about the stealer is constantly revealed? equals to free bait. sight aoe will be small enough just to see him only. Lets say we go with your style, will it still be random? ~~will it still have 1 item only cap?~~.

Sarge i think your idea fits "Break" theme. [Break Item], while Steal Item last until victim kills the stealer, Break Item last until victim reached fountain. Fair?

Sgt Failure · 09-13-2009, 10:49 AM

Guess its fair enough, but i'd still rather see a increasing maximum worth that could be stealed, and keeping the cooldown at a constant 75, cause it kinda sux earlygame.

AbyssPetra · 09-13-2009, 11:32 AM

Added price cap like Sarge suggested.

Nerevarie · 09-13-2009, 11:46 AM

lol if i steal BoT enemy will be useless, this should be ultimate or somthing, against item dependat heros or carrys with bkb this is imba D:

AbyssPetra · 09-13-2009, 11:48 AM

ahaha, if you're A lucky bastard that is..cause the only way to re-try it is suicide ^^

ill add BKB to list.

Ety · 09-13-2009, 01:03 PM

does the enemy get's his item back when the caster dies?

I don't like wasting my inventory slot, so you should just make the item disabled/unusable/undroppable by the target until you die

why?

well what if the enemy hero fills all of his inventory slots and he doesn't have enough room to retrieve the item back? he's screwed

DuKKY · 09-13-2009, 01:07 PM

this is imbalanced imo.. any worth item? thats quite a big deal

AbyssPetra · 09-13-2009, 01:56 PM

its not actually removing the item, but locked instead. lock=un+dropable/useable
just think it as Doom(ultimate).

HELLRAISER · 09-13-2009, 02:14 PM

Good skill. Need a Hero now to get it on!

Aegis have no price, so i suppose it can be locked only after the skill is lvl4?

Banned.Comic · 09-13-2009, 02:36 PM

It is a nice idea to have such a skill, but your hero may only have like 5 items if you have this skill. That's what you are saying right now...

If you make the stolen item get transported to your circle, where it is undropable or unable to be picked up, it should work quite nice.
You might have to think about changing the duration too, like till the original owner or you die or give it a long duration, like 5 minutes or so.

Just thoughts that were flying in my head.

DuKKY · 09-13-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AbyssPetra

its not actually removing the item, but locked instead. lock=un+dropable/useable
just think it as Doom(ultimate).

so whats the point if we already have a doom

Ety · 09-13-2009, 06:41 PM

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so whats the point if we already have a doom

no it's not like doom

it completely shuts down the item, meaning it disables every bonus you gain from it

Doom only silences you from using items

get it?

Dejaime · 09-13-2009, 07:19 PM

I think Sarg.'s is better. If return to fountain, return the item.

Sgt Failure · 09-13-2009, 07:41 PM

Thanks dejaime, but it is really not mine suggetsion, but i still have to agree with you (YAY), i dont know if abyss misunderstood me earlier, but i mean only if the caster returns to fountain, perhaps it clarifies things a bit.

Banned.Comic · 09-13-2009, 08:58 PM

If the item isn't actually stolen and transported to your possession, then why is it called Steal Item?

It should rather be called Freeze Item or Block Item or something like that, instead of Steal Item...

Block Item

Freeze Item

Just a suggestion..

09-13-2009, 07:52 AM	#2
Audacious Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the world Platon doesn't believe in. Posts: 5,078 Blog Entries: 10	Re: [Skill] Steal Item I was so ready to go berserk with reasons why this should be in the game. But you thought it through. Gj and actually a fairly balanced skill I might way. __________________ Use moms credit card - PROFIT! - Protect your freedom. 15€ For Freedom? Fuck yea! Wajeha's Vox Samuel's Crown Ellic's Sensus

09-13-2009, 09:54 AM	#3
R.U.Sty Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 2,190 Blog Entries: 5	Re: [Skill] Steal Item Counter -> people mass gg branches! The least cost worthy counter to any spell in the game lol! Would be great for those hero's who start with boots and late game when most slots are taken with useful junk.

09-13-2009, 10:12 AM	#4
Siraraz Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 1,751 Blog Entries: 4	Re: [Skill] Steal Item Can I steal Aegis?

09-13-2009, 10:16 AM	#5
Sgt Failure Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,717	Re: [Skill] Steal Item Concept is fine, but perhaps the scaling instead could increase the maximum cost of items that it could steal, starting wiht 500, going to no cap. Keep cooldown at a lower amount, and give back item if you go to fountain. __________________

09-13-2009, 10:49 AM	#7
Sgt Failure Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,717	Re: [Skill] Steal Item Guess its fair enough, but i'd still rather see a increasing maximum worth that could be stealed, and keeping the cooldown at a constant 75, cause it kinda sux earlygame. __________________

09-13-2009, 11:46 AM	#9
Nerevarie Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Never say my anus again. Posts: 1,846 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Skill] Steal Item lol if i steal BoT enemy will be useless, this should be ultimate or somthing, against item dependat heros or carrys with bkb this is imba D:

09-13-2009, 01:03 PM	#11
Ety Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 1,750	Re: [Skill] Steal Item does the enemy get's his item back when the caster dies? I don't like wasting my inventory slot, so you should just make the item disabled/unusable/undroppable by the target until you die why? well what if the enemy hero fills all of his inventory slots and he doesn't have enough room to retrieve the item back? he's screwed

09-13-2009, 01:07 PM	#12
DuKKY Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,140	Re: [Skill] Steal Item this is imbalanced imo.. any worth item? thats quite a big deal __________________ PROUDLY A CREATORS GUILD MEMBER CERTIFIED S.R.T MEMBER My hero creations My Remakes Access all this Here

09-13-2009, 02:14 PM	#14
HELLRAISER Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,827	Re: [Skill] Steal Item Good skill. Need a Hero now to get it on! Aegis have no price, so i suppose it can be locked only after the skill is lvl4? __________________ Check my Suggestions out: New Hero Suggestion: Hades, Lord of the Underworld <--- New Hero Idea: Tarvallon, The Ancient Healer Supportive item: Cross of Isis <--- Early game Item: Cape of Heroism Mid game Item: Demonic Orb Late game Item: Helphastus' Glory Click for a complete list of all my suggestions True-er words never have been spoken before!

09-13-2009, 02:36 PM	#15
Banned.Comic Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: I live in Belgium, the land of beer and choclade!! =') Posts: 98	Re: [Skill] Steal Item It is a nice idea to have such a skill, but your hero may only have like 5 items if you have this skill. That's what you are saying right now... If you make the stolen item get transported to your circle, where it is undropable or unable to be picked up, it should work quite nice. You might have to think about changing the duration too, like till the original owner or you die or give it a long duration, like 5 minutes or so. Just thoughts that were flying in my head. __________________ If you are searching reviewers, click the icon above. My hero idea: : The Black Wolf - Haratha (click here.) : The Northspring Harpy - Edana Hatetalon (click here.)

09-13-2009, 07:19 PM	#18
Dejaime Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bot Posts: 1,261 Blog Entries: 2	Re: [Skill] Steal Item I think Sarg.'s is better. If return to fountain, return the item. __________________ Fix - Storm Spirit's Ulti [Agha] for OmniKnight Just wait for the Server.dll fgs

09-13-2009, 07:41 PM	#19
Sgt Failure Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,717	Re: [Skill] Steal Item Thanks dejaime, but it is really not mine suggetsion, but i still have to agree with you (YAY), i dont know if abyss misunderstood me earlier, but i mean only if the caster returns to fountain, perhaps it clarifies things a bit. __________________

09-13-2009, 08:58 PM	#20
Banned.Comic Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: I live in Belgium, the land of beer and choclade!! =') Posts: 98	Re: [Skill] Steal Item If the item isn't actually stolen and transported to your possession, then why is it called Steal Item? It should rather be called Freeze Item or Block Item or something like that, instead of Steal Item... Block Item Freeze Item Just a suggestion.. __________________ If you are searching reviewers, click the icon above. My hero idea: : The Black Wolf - Haratha (click here.) : The Northspring Harpy - Edana Hatetalon (click here.)