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Old 01-14-2011, 10:02 AM   #1
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Default A little buff to Magnus


So in few words:

Sugg:
Remove cast point from Skewer,make Shockwave can damage one unit twice.

Explanation:
With this Magnus will be able to pull of dual shockwave combo dealing heavy dmg(280+2x300=880 to be precise) to up to 1/2/3/4 enemies,depending on skewer level.
Itll work this way:
-cast shockwave
-after unit receive dmg,use skewer to drag him into shockwave
-unit will receive second instance of dmg
Balancing:
It wont be OP considering:
-long cd on skewer(35 sec)
-fact that he sacrifice his escape & initiating mech to do this.
-fact that shockwave have its own cast point,so combo is dodgeable and its hard to utilize it with dager.
-its really hard to catch greater number of heroes in skewer.
Reason:
I hope that this will increase popularity of Magnus,who's ATM pretty rare sight in dota.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:17 AM   #2
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

When I first began DotA and saw Magnus' 300dmg nuke for 90 mana at 9 secs CD I was like: wtf Oo!?

OT: Is this possible? If yes then comboing is always cool, T-up.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:30 AM   #3
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

AFAIK it'll work.
Ty for support
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:30 AM   #4
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

o.o I prefer a 30seconds cooldown from skewer... diving of phoenix should stay at 30seconds too T.T
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:32 AM   #5
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

Good point there
So ill add it as second usgg if u dont mind
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:10 PM   #6
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

Bump,plz revive it & post some unbalances that may occur with this,so i can update it.
This is my first sugg,so dont be too strict.
Tnx in advance
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:27 PM   #7
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

I personally prefer it goes like Pounce where it has instant casting type, no casting animation but probably with reduced damage and/or no maximum units limitation (or probably maximum hero limitation instead of unit).
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:30 PM   #8
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

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I personally prefer it goes like Pounce where it has instant casting type, no casting animation but probably with reduced damage and/or no maximum units limitation (or probably maximum hero limitation instead of unit).
Well thats point of 1st sugg.
As for units it logic (2 tusks=2 units )
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Old 01-16-2011, 04:00 PM   #9
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

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make Shockwave cant hit one unit more than twice
Contains a mistake.

T-u... oops..

T-up on Nothing's sugg.
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Old 01-16-2011, 06:05 PM   #10
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

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Originally Posted by Dzin-Zakk View Post
Contains a mistake.

T-u... oops..

T-up on Nothing's sugg.
Pls tell how to fix it(bad english xD)

What part of nothings sugg ur referring to? (no unit cap or no cast animation?)

PS. AFAIK no cast point = insta cast, right?
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Old 01-16-2011, 06:10 PM   #11
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

@Dzin-Zakk Same, though OP's post isn't bad.
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Old 01-16-2011, 08:10 PM   #12
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No cast point = instant cast

I support.
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Old 01-16-2011, 08:33 PM   #13
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No cast point = instant cast

I support.
Ty for support
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Old 01-17-2011, 06:01 PM   #14
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

Changed OP a little
Removed condorizai's sugg.
bumped.
Rew it & make comment,dont be shy
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Old 01-18-2011, 12:58 AM   #15
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

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Originally Posted by laikzasve View Post
So in few words:

Sugg:
Remove cast point from Skewer,make Shockwave cant hit one unit more than twice.

Explanation:
With this Magnus will be able to pull of dual shockwave combo dealing heavy dmg(280+2x300=880 to be precise) to up to two enemies.
Itll work this way:
-cast shockwave
-after unit receive dmg,use skewer to drag him into shockwave
-unit will receive second instance of dmg
Balancing:
It wont be OP considering:
-long cd on skewer(45 sec)
-fact that he sacrifice his escape & initiating mech to do this.
-fact that shockwave have its own cast point,so combo is dodgeable and its hard to utilize it with dager.
-its really hard to catch 2 heroes
Reason:
I hope that this will increase popularity of Magnus,who's ATM pretty rare sight in dota.
I just realize I was reading in a reverse way, sir.... Seriously, 1 word of typo can change the meaning of whole thread.
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:01 AM   #16
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

imo skewer cd should scale 45/40/35/30, give more reason to lvl it
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Old 01-18-2011, 04:30 AM   #17
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

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I just realize I was reading in a reverse way, sir.... Seriously, 1 word of typo can change the meaning of whole thread.
The meaning was that unit cant receive more than two instances of dmg.

So it can hit any number of units,but each one of them cant receive more than 600 dmg(two instances of dmg),and this is only possible if unit is pushed into shockwave once again(forcestaff,skewer,swap etc.)

I apologies,bad english
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Old 01-18-2011, 05:11 AM   #18
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imo skewer cd should scale 45/40/35/30, give more reason to lvl it
yup and for diving phoenix too
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Old 01-18-2011, 11:22 AM   #19
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yup and for diving phoenix too
Well i had rescale suggestion(as #2),but i removed it because it isnt the main point of this thread.
Also pls comment OP, i need some feedback bout balance
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:17 PM   #20
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Default Re: A little buff to Magnus

It should be "make Shockwave able to to hit unit twice". Or is it able to do it already?

As for Nothing "probably maximum hero limitation instead of unit" for Skewer.
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