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Old 09-14-2009, 11:07 AM   #1
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Default [ITEM] Orb Of Corruption


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Option One: Base it on Armlet Of Mordiggian and make it deduct 3% HP Per Second
Option Two: Stick with the current idea but with some tweaks

Option Three: Make this a basic item and upgrades to Desolater
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Power Corrupts but Absolute Power Absolutely Corrupts. This orb holds within it the power to melt even the hardiest of armors but at the price of the user's soul.

Components
1 HyperStone+1 Desolater=1 Orb of Corruption

Gives:
+70 Damage (Up from +60)
+75 to attack speed (Up from +55)
Corruption (-10 armor instead of -6)

Info: A item to upgrade desolater from during endgame cos' Desolater gets weaker and weaker throughout the game whereas all the other orbs remain the same or get stronger. Also, Deso is sorta the only orb without an upgrade. (Mask Of Death to MoM/HotD, Sange to SnY, Mael to Mjollnir, the list goes on)

Please don't immediately thumbs down if you feel that this idea is bad. Please put constructive criticism and I'll work on it.

Advantages
Provides an upgrade to an orb that usually does not get bought often due to the lacklustre power of deso and the fact that it gets weaker in late game. Consists of useful items that can help usual carry heroes and, easy to farm (?).

Disadvantages
High cost, hard to farm up...

Alternate Item Idea, Based on Armlet
Items needed: Hyperstone+Desolater= Orb Of Corruption
Orb of Corruption gives
+40 damage
+40 AS
-6 Armour
When activated, it will morph to:
+70 Damage
+65 AS
-12 Armour
At the cost of deducting 3% of your CURRENT HP per second
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:21 AM   #2
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Default Re: [ITEM] Orb Of Corruption

why not make this as a basic item and it upgrades as deso
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:21 AM   #3
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Default Re: [ITEM] Orb Of Corruption

The new skadi and even more. This cost 8k+. Nobody has the money to pull this item off. There's actually little significance for upgrading Desolator as it is already strong as it is, this is just bringing it to another level of imbalance. Although the concept is good, and something that carry heroes like Slardar, Lanaya, or Mortred would buy, I just think their wallets will be able to pay for such a high amount. I suggest changing the 2 ultimate orbs, its quite a reminder of Skadi, which is not what we want. I believe Ultimate Orb is used in several recipes, and i think you should give way to the other items rarely used.

Although I like the concept.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:23 AM   #4
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Default Re: [ITEM] Orb Of Corruption

You know, actually i agree with the above x.x How about changing it to hyper to benefit those poor carry heroes >.<
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:43 AM   #5
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Default Re: [ITEM] Orb Of Corruption

Um funny your talking in some sort of third person view, your the original poster. Haha.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:50 AM   #6
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Default Re: [ITEM] Orb Of Corruption

i mean that i agree with you o.o
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:51 AM   #7
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Default Re: [ITEM] Orb Of Corruption

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Originally Posted by SeaErChin View Post
Intro
Power Corrupts but Absolute Power Absolutely Corrupts. This orb holds within it the power to melt even the hardiest of armors but at the price of the user's soul.

Components
1 HyperStone+1 Desolater=1 Orb of Corruption

Gives:
+90 Damage (Up from +60)
+75 to all stats (Up from +55)
Corruption (-10 armor instead of -6)

Info: A item to upgrade desolater from during endgame cos' Desolater gets weaker and weaker throughout the game whereas all the other orbs remain the same or get stronger. Also, Deso is sorta the only orb without an upgrade. (Mask Of Death to MoM/HotD, Sange to SnY, Mael to Mjollnir, the list goes on)

Please don't immediately thumbs down if you feel that this idea is bad. Please put constructive criticism and I'll work on it.
something is wrong here.
put :
+90 Damage
+55 attack speed

but 55 attack speed you got from hyperstone too,and higher you can't go

so i suggest you to put something like this:
a cumulative buff:
first hit:-6 armor
second hit:-8 armor and you attack faster if you don't change target
third attack:-10 armor and you attack faster if you don't change target
forth attack:-12 armor(max) and you attack faster if you don't change target

kinda like old rexxar's passive
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:55 AM   #8
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something is wrong here.
put :
+90 Damage
+55 attack speed

but 55 attack speed you got from hyperstone too,and higher you can't go

so i suggest you to put something like this:
a cumulative buff:
first hit:-6 armor
second hit:-8 armor and you attack faster if you don't change target
third attack:-10 armor and you attack faster if you don't change target
forth attack:-12 armor(max) and you attack faster if you don't change target

kinda like old rexxar's passive
more like current Troll Warlord(:
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Old 09-14-2009, 12:09 PM   #9
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Noted... Was a typo ._.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:13 PM   #10
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Default Re: [ITEM] Orb Of Corruption

i think +75 attack speed is too much....

from your description of the item which is..

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Power Corrupts but Absolute Power Absolutely Corrupts. This orb holds within it the power to melt even the hardiest of armors but at the price of the user's soul.
notice the bold words???

so if the hero having this item attacks, then it would prolly loose HP....

with that effect.. then it will make it balance....
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:20 PM   #11
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% hp loss?
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:23 PM   #12
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why not make this as a basic item and it upgrades as deso
That's what I was thinking ^^
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:27 PM   #13
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Default Re: [ITEM] Orb Of Corruption

Wait, how about an additional effect? x.x
Skill
Soul Burn
Burns the soul, both the wielder and the victim, when activated, the wielder will burn 3% of his total health upon each second and will burn 5% of the target's CURRENT HP. This effect is toggable, meaning you can off and on it any time you want.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:39 PM   #14
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Default Re: [ITEM] Orb Of Corruption

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That's what I was thinking ^^
me 2 .

orb of corruption: 1000

-4 armor on hit

deso:
orb of corruption + 2*mithril hammer + recipe (300). 300 To balance the better builtup
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Old 09-15-2009, 04:33 AM   #15
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Old 09-15-2009, 08:37 AM   #16
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Default Re: [ITEM] Orb Of Corruption

let it have high damage/gold ratio juz like deso...maybe change hyperstone to gloves of haste+recipe?
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Old 09-15-2009, 08:44 AM   #17
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Default Re: [ITEM] Orb Of Corruption

how about asking for suggestions for your suggestion elsewhere and returning when you have a real suggestion to present?

My two cents on the desolater upgrade, even with it being a dead-end item, it is still regarded as a great DPS item. Giving it an upgrade would sort of make it imba.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:30 PM   #18
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Default Re: [ITEM] Orb Of Corruption

As stated above, Desolater gets weaker as the game progresses and despite it being a great end-game item (i am a deso fan myself), it needs an upgrade like so many orbs out there as it does not scale late game. It's based on a fixed number instead of a percentage and this does not make it scale up to expectations.
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:17 AM   #19
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Bumpz?
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Old 09-17-2009, 10:07 AM   #20
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Default Re: [ITEM] Orb Of Corruption

Desolator adding in to Corruption is a good idea, the mere fact that orb of corruption is already in desolator. Hyperstone seems fine too.

This item is not quite necessary, but can't quite hurt.
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