[Item] Cross of Isis

[HELLRAISER]

Many thnx to D' Eradicated for making this suggestion look better

This item started as 1 part suggestion (as shown in the changelog below) and end up suggesting a higher level item and a basic item. Initially i was thinking of a BloodStone remake, but i really hate remakes on items since we have so few, so i rather a new item to be introduced.

Cross of Isis

5875

Bought From :


A legendary cross which Isis bestowed her life and essence to it.

Essence of Isis

• Passively increases allied hero's max HP by 300 (100 *) and HP regen by 6 (2 *)
• AoE is global.
• * Bonuses applied to player-controlled units.
  Aura doesn't stuck with it self

Isis' Revival

• If bearer is killed by an enemy hero and the killer is killed after 4 seconds, bearer will revive after 1 second delay with half HP and MP. If killer is not killed, bearer dies.
• Killer Search Area is global. Cooldown is 100 seconds. Manacost is 0.
  Note: This item will take effect prior Aegis.

An alternative to Messerschmidt's Reaver to the recipe

Essence Pin

3100

Bought From :


A shiny pin which is forged with the Philosopher's Stone.

Essence Aura

• Passively increases allied heroes' max HP by 250 and player-controlled units' max HP by 100.
• AoE is global.

Changelog

3/6/2012
-Reduce time for the killer to be killed from 5 to 4 seconds
-Added 1 second delay for the revive.
28/1/2011
-Changed total price from 5675 to 5575
-Changed template thnx to D'eradicated.
-Added WC3 icon for the item
-Changed recipe from 2xvitality boosters to 1xvitality booster+Ring of health+reaver+recipe(500)
-Added Internal Cooldown 60seconds
-Increased aura's max hp bonus from 200(100) to 300(100) and regen from 4(2) to 6(2)
-The revive bring the hero back with half hp and mp
-Changed total price from 5575 to 5875
-Increased Isis Revival Cooldown from 80 to 100seconds

Here the original template and suggestion, just for the record nothing good really there apart from the idea

Cross of Isis
Isis bestow some of her essence in this cross. It gives life to the bearer and his allies and its able to channel life essence from enemies back to the bearer's dead body.

(875)+(1100)+[(3200) + RECIPE(500) =(5475)

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Gives:
Passive
-A global aura that increase allied Heroes max hp by 350 (to allied hero-owned units max hp by 125) and also grants 6hp hero global regen(2hp regen to allied hero-owned units)
Passive
-When the bearer dies by an enemy hero(killing blow) Ankh Cross is placed on the ground with a timer on it counting 5seconds(only allies can see the timer). If the enemy hero that killed bearer dies within 5seconds of his death then the bearer revive (with half hp and mp) else he dies (reliable gold will be granted to enemy hero that dealt the killing blow if the bearer don't revive)
CD: 60seconds.
Manacost: 0

Note: The auras don't stack to each other

To be honest I didn't have time to think for buildup and cost so i listen to suggestions

Brainstorming this item
I could also think of a basic item called lets say:
Basic Item:

"Essence Pin"
Gives: 200hp to all allied heroes and 100hp to all allied owned units globally
Cost: 3100

Then as extension, CoI(Cross of Isis)
Essence Pin + RoH + Vitality Booster = Cross of Isis

Tell me what you think about Essence Pin idea too, combo'ed with Cross of Isis

[Snik4er]

I Like the reviving part idea-

[God of Death]

Nice concept.

[D' Eradicated]

Wait for me to get you template fixed becoz' I like your item... Does the revive part have cooldown...

[HELLRAISER]

Originally Posted by D' Eradicated

Wait for me to get you template fixed becoz' I like your item... Does the revive part have cooldown...

Thnx, didn't think of that either. Maybe 60seconds cooldown?

EDIT: i can see no reason for a 60second cooldown, I think somewhere between 10-30seconds are enough.

[Fate Trap]

Amazing concept

[HELLRAISER]

Originally Posted by Snik4er

I Like the reviving part idea-

Originally Posted by God of Death

Nice concept.

Originally Posted by God of Order

Amazing concept

Thanks guys, i gotta go, i will check back later for any more feedback

[Lotus V Eater]

freaking awesome...can sum1 ask Icey to implement this ASAP?

[_Aurora_]

I like the concept very much. Thing that is missing is the icon .

[D' Eradicated]

Although this has been used by Shadow Priest, it still suits your item...

[L-60]

Originally Posted by HELLRAISER

Gives:
-A global aura that increase allied Heroes max hp by 200 and all allied hero-owned units max hp by 100 and also grants 4hp hero global regen(2hp regen to allied hero-owned units)

-When the bearer dies by an enemy hero(killing blow) Ankh Cross is placed on the ground with a timer on it counting 5seconds(only allies can see the timer). If the enemy hero that killed bearer dies within 5seconds of his death then the bearer revive else he dies (reliable gold will be granted to enemy hero that dealt the killing blow if the bearer don't revive)

global aura + global regen + revive= imba

put a aoe effect for this about 900 aoe.

make the revive half your full hp and mp.

put a cooldown for revive like 5 mins.

[Lotus V Eater]

yeah, that would balance the stuff a bit...

[Kiry0]

I think you should replace one of the Vit Boosters with a RoH. This would account for the regen and give you balance to the amount of regen you get. Make the recipe cost 500 like EoS. Total cost would be 5675.

I also agree with lancer's balance suggestions.

[Lavalampe]

Exactly Stats when completed?

Life effect reminds me on my Moral Banner (in my signature), but same question like ppl had in my suggestion: Is a Life-Aura Codeable?

[clemto]

Really nice concept. T-UP

+2 for Lancer's balance suggestions.

Also :
- Add a better template with all the bonuses from recipe and items (str, dmg, hp, ...)
- Maybe change the recipe a little, 2 Vitality booster is mehh. By example, change one booster with a mask of death (suit the theme, you can return from the death), or Urn of Shadows (since it can "release souls", and the Urn is not yet used in a recipe).

[SpiderPig]

T-up

[ChaoS_ThronE]

Trading lives, nice concept
what's the ankh detection aoe?

[Lavalampe]

edit: nvm -> overread sth.

[HELLRAISER]

Originally Posted by P_L[Maniac]

freaking awesome...can sum1 ask Icey to implement this ASAP?

i hope he does too!!

Originally Posted by Only

I like the concept very much. Thing that is missing is the icon .

Thnx, i put something up there ttemporarily :P

Originally Posted by D' Eradicated

Although this has been used by Shadow Priest, it still suits your item...

Ty, I will use that for now.

Originally Posted by lancer60

global aura + global regen + revive= imba

put a aoe effect for this about 900 aoe.

make the revive half your full hp and mp.

put a cooldown for revive like 5 mins.

First off its 1 aura that gives max hp and regen..

Secondely can you explain to me why is imbalanced if the AoE is global? In fact I would rather nerf the max hp bonus and the regen but keep the global effect, as it doesn't give you +200 hp every time you enter, but merely just max your hp.

Reviving with half hp and mp it sounds reasonable to go for a nerf if the item is imbalanced

Cooldown 5mins? I say 30seconds. If he dies and revives afterwads then he dies after 25seconds and revives again means:
a) His team works
b) Enemy team sucks, as they just suicide to kill him and then they die.

Top I can see the cooldown is about 60seconds, and that is so the revive don't work more than once in a team fight, which is also avoidable with a 30second cooldown.

Originally Posted by Kiry0

I think you should replace one of the Vit Boosters with a RoH. This would account for the regen and give you balance to the amount of regen you get. Make the recipe cost 500 like EoS. Total cost would be 5675.

I also agree with lancer's balance suggestions.

Yes , RoH and Recipe sounds ok, will do.

[0verp0wer_BR]

Questions:
1. Wouldn't you ragequit if you were playing Techies? Suicide -> Kill -> Enemy revives
2. Will it work if Roshan kills the bearer and the team finish him within the time limit?