[Aghanim] Rupture

osuka · 02-05-2011, 03:36 PM

What about this:
-30% of damage dealt by rupture is regenered to bloodseeker. (% can be changed of course)
As long the hero moves, blood's hp is getting regenerated.

Now, if your target moves, his hp goes down and yours goes up :3
This would make a total change in a chase xD
Also, fits 100% with the hero concept.

xiiaosin89 · 02-05-2011, 03:41 PM

Don't make 100% drain, sounds too gay (not too sure)
But concept is alright, this have been suggested before fyi...

Pinheirods · 02-05-2011, 08:28 PM

I think the regeneration needs be something around 10% to 50% the damage

God_ii · 02-05-2011, 08:48 PM

indeed, 100% drain is seriously op. may settle for like 25% or something

osuka · 02-06-2011, 01:39 AM

Everybody tells that it needs to be a %, so I edit :3
Thnkz

Dejaime · 02-06-2011, 01:51 AM

I like the suggestion, but Agha granting heal over the damage sounds too much PudgyDismember from Pudge, don't get me wrong!...

Why don't you, instead of healing BS, mini-stun the enemy every time he moves X units?
Maybe that could work!

osuka · 02-06-2011, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dejaime

I like the suggestion, but Agha granting heal over the damage sounds too much PudgyDismember from Pudge, don't get me wrong!...

Why don't you, instead of healing BS, mini-stun the enemy every time he moves X units?
Maybe that could work!

Yeah, it could sound as pudge ulti but they are not the same, pudge regens his hp in base of his str and it not depends of the actions of the enemy
Bloodseekrs regens his hp in base of the decisions of the enemy :P

Ministun I think is a bad idea, we want the enemy to run, no to stop him. And is a very popular idea that not fits of bloodseeker concept like the hp absorb

Thnks 4 comment!

Dejaime · 02-06-2011, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osuka

Yeah, it could sound as pudge ulti but they are not the same, pudge regens his hp in base of his str and it not depends of the actions of the enemy
Bloodseekrs regens his hp in base of the decisions of the enemy :P

Ministun I think is a bad idea, we want the enemy to run, no to stop him. And is a very popular idea that not fits of bloodseeker concept like the hp absorb

Thnks 4 comment!

Actually, Pudge heals based on the dealt Damage, the damage is the one based on the str + fix amount.

I see BS's ultimate differently, I use it to encourage the enemy to stand still, if he runs, good for you! This would only encourage him even more to stand still receiving continuous non-interrupted attacks...

@edit:
Nothing against your suggestion, it's actually pretty good! I just think that if you want to heal yourself with rupture you should suggest that Bloodbath is applied when Rupture kills the hero... But this probably was already suggested b4...

jempm55 · 02-27-2011, 04:28 AM

oh no. the bloodbath upgrade is enough i think. a well-fed bloodseeker doesn't need this. and he doesn't need the life-mana effects of agha anyway, other items more suitable for him will give him that.

Mr. Burns · 02-27-2011, 09:12 AM

Fine with me.

atenyearold · 02-27-2011, 09:45 AM

Then if it ministuns, it's just letting the target get less more damage. It's like saying Cold Snap while rupture

Flame13 · 02-27-2011, 12:01 PM

I would rather put that you gain +10 damage for each 100 units he goes...like you getting rabid or mad and your hunger is all gathered at the sight of his blood...

) sadistic but I like it

condorzai · 02-27-2011, 01:09 PM

20/40/60% if you don't reduce the cooldown of Rupture

25/30/35 or 20/30/40% sounds fair if you reduced the cooldown.

lleluca61 · 03-01-2011, 09:04 AM

Reducing cooldown?? Its a bad Idea,,Its already short
1 ulti per battle...if you use it 2 times you win for sure,,so its unfair to reduce cooldown

Just some little lifesteal and its ok

osuka · 03-02-2011, 06:46 AM

I don't wanted to make an obious agha upgrade like cooldown improvement 'cuz is boring.

IMO a scepter upgrade should be interesting, an add-on to the ulti ,... something like that :P

Bad Apple · 03-02-2011, 06:51 AM

With the recent buffs to BS, is this trully needed?

osuka · 03-02-2011, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadApple

With the recent buffs to BS, is this trully needed?

Is a scepter upgrade, no just a buff

Furacker · 04-05-2011, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jempm55

oh no. the bloodbath upgrade is enough i think. a well-fed bloodseeker doesn't need this. and he doesn't need the life-mana effects of agha anyway, other items more suitable for him will give him that.

T-null for now, but i like the idea.

Monsterlord · 04-05-2011, 05:30 PM

Considering the problem with Rupture is that it's easy to simply stand through the duration, this upgrade is worthless.

Consider a penalty if they don't move instead.

Echowish · 08-18-2011, 11:26 AM

I like it

But another suggestion is if they stand still for 2 seconds, they're instantly moved 400 units or something?

02-05-2011, 03:36 PM	#1
osuka Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 228	[Aghanim] Rupture What about this: -30% of damage dealt by rupture is regenered to bloodseeker. (% can be changed of course) As long the hero moves, blood's hp is getting regenerated. Now, if your target moves, his hp goes down and yours goes up :3 This would make a total change in a chase xD Also, fits 100% with the hero concept. __________________ I know... My english SUXX... My suggestions: Visual: Agha Upgrade:

Last edited by osuka; 02-06-2011 at 01:41 AM.

02-05-2011, 03:41 PM	#2
xiiaosin89 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 542	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture Don't make 100% drain, sounds too gay (not too sure) But concept is alright, this have been suggested before fyi... __________________ Suggestion Motto IceFrog's Suggestion(s) MUST SEE! Aghanim Scepter Upgrades. Don't be a troll Sounds logic.

02-05-2011, 08:28 PM	#3
Pinheirods Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 53	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture I think the regeneration needs be something around 10% to 50% the damage __________________

02-05-2011, 08:48 PM	#4
God_ii Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Everywhere Posts: 2,588	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture indeed, 100% drain is seriously op. may settle for like 25% or something __________________ My Signature My Suggestions My Guide to Soloing Roshan Omniknight's Repel [Tweak]Thunder Clap [Visual] Remote Mines [Tweak] Borrowed Time Terrorblade Metamorphisis Leveling Illusions Hold alt and press f4

02-06-2011, 01:39 AM	#5
osuka Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 228	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture Everybody tells that it needs to be a %, so I edit :3 Thnkz __________________ I know... My english SUXX... My suggestions: Visual: Agha Upgrade:

02-06-2011, 01:51 AM	#6
Dejaime Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bot Posts: 1,261 Blog Entries: 2	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture I like the suggestion, but Agha granting heal over the damage sounds too much PudgyDismember from Pudge, don't get me wrong!... Why don't you, instead of healing BS, mini-stun the enemy every time he moves X units? Maybe that could work! __________________ Fix - Storm Spirit's Ulti [Agha] for OmniKnight Just wait for the Server.dll fgs

02-27-2011, 04:28 AM	#9
jempm55 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 40	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture oh no. the bloodbath upgrade is enough i think. a well-fed bloodseeker doesn't need this. and he doesn't need the life-mana effects of agha anyway, other items more suitable for him will give him that.

02-27-2011, 09:12 AM	#10
Mr. Burns Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: In my mansion Posts: 5,050	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture Fine with me. __________________ [filing out medical forms] Mr. Burns: Social security number? Naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, 2. Damn Roosevelt. Cause of parents death? Got in my way. Mr. Burns: I could crush him like an ant, but it would be too easy. No, revenge is a dish best served cold. I'll bide my time until... oh, what the hell, I'll just crush him like an ant.

02-27-2011, 09:45 AM	#11
atenyearold Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Check behind you Posts: 317	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture Then if it ministuns, it's just letting the target get less more damage. It's like saying Cold Snap while rupture

02-27-2011, 12:01 PM	#12
Flame13 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Eternal flames of damnation Posts: 2,429	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture I would rather put that you gain +10 damage for each 100 units he goes...like you getting rabid or mad and your hunger is all gathered at the sight of his blood... ) sadistic but I like it __________________ Gallery of heroes

02-27-2011, 01:09 PM	#13
condorzai Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,474	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture 20/40/60% if you don't reduce the cooldown of Rupture 25/30/35 or 20/30/40% sounds fair if you reduced the cooldown. __________________ Rework Hero/Item/Skill Hero Suggestion [Rework] CallOfWild / HolyPersuasion---[Rework] A new Lycanthrope!---Remake Silencer---[Offensive/Defensive] Maledict---[Remake]Silence, Drow Ranger Guardian Of Ashenvale Forest---Master Druid Of The Talon---Tuskarr Icicle Thrower---Medivh---Ferocious Raptor---Prehistoric Sabertooth---Gravity Master---Thunder God---Demon Warlock---Keeper of the Grove---Furbolg Elder

03-01-2011, 09:04 AM	#14
lleluca61 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 10	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture Reducing cooldown?? Its a bad Idea,,Its already short 1 ulti per battle...if you use it 2 times you win for sure,,so its unfair to reduce cooldown Just some little lifesteal and its ok

03-02-2011, 06:46 AM	#15
osuka Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 228	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture I don't wanted to make an obious agha upgrade like cooldown improvement 'cuz is boring. IMO a scepter upgrade should be interesting, an add-on to the ulti ,... something like that :P __________________ I know... My english SUXX... My suggestions: Visual: Agha Upgrade:

03-02-2011, 06:51 AM	#16
Bad Apple Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sealed away, chained in the 9th circle of Hell, whispering through the veil for unwary souls to come Posts: 3,679 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture With the recent buffs to BS, is this trully needed? __________________

04-05-2011, 05:30 PM	#19
Monsterlord Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,837	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture Considering the problem with Rupture is that it's easy to simply stand through the duration, this upgrade is worthless. Consider a penalty if they don't move instead.

08-18-2011, 11:26 AM	#20
Echowish Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NZ Posts: 446 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Aghanim] Rupture I like it But another suggestion is if they stand still for 2 seconds, they're instantly moved 400 units or something? __________________