[Aghanims Upgrade] Supernova

darxide · 02-19-2011, 04:23 AM

Supernova Upgrade

Level	Mana Cost	Cooldown	Casting Range	Area of Effect	Duration	Allowed Targets	Effects
1	200	110	N/A	1000	6/1.5 seconds*	Enemy Units	60 damage per second, 5 hero attacks required to kill the sun
2	200	110	N/A	1000	6/2 seconds*	Enemy Units	80 damage per second, 7 hero attacks required to kill the sun
3	200	110	N/A	1000	6/2.5 seconds*	Enemy Units	100 damage per second, 9 hero attacks required to kill the sun

Notes:

(*) Supernova duration / Stun duration
Damage type: magical
Only attacks from heroes (Meepo clones included, but not illusions) can damage the sun.
No ability can affect the sun.
Phoenix is paused, hidden and invulnerable for the duration of Supernova.

Upgrades are in green.
Please provide reasons why you gave it that rating (T-up/T-down). I would like to know what you liked and what you want to be changed.
In this case, I would also want the numbers to be criticized (Note that criticism can be both for positive and negative reasons. Criticism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
I am keeping the concept of having a stun once cast and another once finished. If you want to suggest changes, please aim at the numbers and any additional changes you personally would want to add.

NOTE: In addition to the Upgrade, may I also suggest that the damage be dealt in shorter intervals for a smoother effect. Preferably in 0.1 to 0.3 second intervals.

God of Death · 02-19-2011, 04:29 AM

T-Up!

wreckagemaster · 02-19-2011, 04:49 AM

T-Up

condorzai · 02-19-2011, 04:58 AM

nice one

It's balance somemore!!! Instant T-UP xD

xiiaosin89 · 02-19-2011, 05:04 AM

Hmm... T-UP

dominator02 · 02-19-2011, 05:07 AM

Support!

Going to buy this.

darxide · 02-19-2011, 05:24 AM

Thanks for the quick positive reactions

greenspleen · 02-19-2011, 05:47 AM

T-d the aghanim's upgrade is too weak; 20 more damage, 0.5 more seconds of stun, 200 more AoE for 4200 gold? no thanks

darxide · 02-19-2011, 06:08 AM

the addition as a whole though, lets supernova have 1 sec stun in a 1200 AoE that would lessen the chances of the egg being destroyed, let allies support you better in those 6 seconds, and allow more burn time for enemies.

greenspleen · 02-19-2011, 06:11 AM

Still not worth 4200 gold.

Might as well save up and buy core items, such as a Dagon, Hand of Midas, or Cranium Basher. Hell, you probably could even get 2 of those 3.

demondance · 02-19-2011, 06:17 AM

T-up.. best sug than older

pokesam94 · 02-19-2011, 07:13 AM

T-up, extra large stun worth it

greenspleen · 02-19-2011, 08:14 AM

stupid idea, not worth it, why waste your time and farm?

---------- Post added at 09:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:14 AM ----------

OP should add more dmg, at least + 40 or + 50

darxide · 02-19-2011, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancer60

Supernova needs survival not damage.

My [Aghanims] Supernova

umm... FYI I added an initial stun that would help the egg survive more likely that your sugg. and since its an aghanims upgrade, i added minimal damage to an ULT.

greenspleen · 02-19-2011, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darxide

and since its an aghanims upgrade, i added minimal damage to an ULT.

lolwut

umad

you spend 4200 gold for a shitty 1 sec stun and +20 damage? damn, i would get a better deal from 79.245 GG branches.

darxide · 02-19-2011, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenspleen

Still not worth 4200 gold.

Might as well save up and buy core items, such as a Dagon, Hand of Midas, or Cranium Basher. Hell, you probably could even get 2 of those 3.

Aghanims would be optional as his Ultimate is already a good skill. you can buy your core and THEN aghs. It depends on the player.

greenspleen · 02-19-2011, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darxide

Aghanims would be optional as his Ultimate is already a good skill. you can buy your core and THEN aghs. It depends on the player.

In this case you should improve stun duration so a late game imba wtf hero like Crystal Maiden or Lion doesn't bbq your face with 9 hits in less than 0.5 seconds.

Plus rushing Aghanims is a bad idea since your ulti is not spammable, and is a very situational ult. It would be better to get core items, Dagon, Basher, SnY, etc. I'm pretty sure 6 Vanguards (Vangod) would suffice as well.

t-d

darxide · 02-19-2011, 09:19 AM

I got that already. anyone else have ideas/feedback?

L-60 · 02-19-2011, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darxide

umm... FYI I added an initial stun that would help the egg survive more likely that your sugg. and since its an aghanims upgrade, i added minimal damage to an ULT.

yeah 1 sec stun will do troll can kill you faster than you can say you suck

darxide · 02-19-2011, 10:34 AM

troll gets MKB anyway. true strike. would kill your sugg as well. with the initial stun, it can work offensively or defensively. even to counter a gank. blinding units in the AoE would just prolong the death rather than turning things around.

please try not to T-D just because you think you have a better idea. i need constructive criticism. not jealousy if any.

02-19-2011, 04:29 AM	#2
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condorzai Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,474	Re: [Aghanims Upgrade] Supernova nice one It's balance somemore!!! Instant T-UP xD __________________ Rework Hero/Item/Skill Hero Suggestion [Rework] CallOfWild / HolyPersuasion---[Rework] A new Lycanthrope!---Remake Silencer---[Offensive/Defensive] Maledict---[Remake]Silence, Drow Ranger Guardian Of Ashenvale Forest---Master Druid Of The Talon---Tuskarr Icicle Thrower---Medivh---Ferocious Raptor---Prehistoric Sabertooth---Gravity Master---Thunder God---Demon Warlock---Keeper of the Grove---Furbolg Elder

02-19-2011, 05:04 AM	#5
xiiaosin89 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 542	Re: [Aghanims Upgrade] Supernova Hmm... T-UP __________________ Suggestion Motto IceFrog's Suggestion(s) MUST SEE! Aghanim Scepter Upgrades. Don't be a troll Sounds logic.

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02-19-2011, 05:47 AM	#8
greenspleen Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 557	Re: [Aghanims Upgrade] Supernova T-d the aghanim's upgrade is too weak; 20 more damage, 0.5 more seconds of stun, 200 more AoE for 4200 gold? no thanks __________________ Brofist S&Y Awesome suggs Statusbar Statusbar Cosmetic

02-19-2011, 06:11 AM	#10
greenspleen Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 557	Re: [Aghanims Upgrade] Supernova Still not worth 4200 gold. Might as well save up and buy core items, such as a Dagon, Hand of Midas, or Cranium Basher. Hell, you probably could even get 2 of those 3. __________________ Brofist S&Y Awesome suggs Statusbar Statusbar Cosmetic

02-19-2011, 06:17 AM	#11
demondance Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 416	Re: [Aghanims Upgrade] Supernova T-up.. best sug than older

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pokesam94 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 202	Re: [Aghanims Upgrade] Supernova T-up, extra large stun worth it

02-19-2011, 08:14 AM	#13
greenspleen Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 557	Re: [Aghanims Upgrade] Supernova stupid idea, not worth it, why waste your time and farm? ---------- Post added at 09:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:14 AM ---------- OP should add more dmg, at least + 40 or + 50 __________________ Brofist S&Y Awesome suggs Statusbar Statusbar Cosmetic