[Tweak]Number of creeps per wave

Nanaya Shiki · 02-19-2011, 08:32 AM

After each 1000 seconds when the map has been loaded, a melee creep will be added to a wave. And after each 3000 seconds for a ranged one.
You will ask why I said it? Look at the -cm mode: If you or your opponent take too much time for banning/picking, the amount of creeps will be increased because time is not counted when you has finished picking, it is counted when the map has been loaded. This is a small trick, and Chinese teams usuallly use it when they need to turtle (like this replay).

So here is my suggestion: Fix it. Change it to "After each 1000/3000s when the first creep wave spawn". IMO this suggestion would encourage ganking, and in a serious -cm game, there shouldn't be a trick like this.

Nanaya Shiki · 02-19-2011, 02:58 PM

Any thought?

Guardian AngeL · 02-19-2011, 03:11 PM

Of course T-Up. Nice catch.

Don86 · 02-19-2011, 05:39 PM

Simple enough. T-up.

ninguem · 02-19-2011, 05:42 PM

This is no tweak - it is a major bug!

Lanther · 02-19-2011, 06:04 PM

Good reasoning.

T-UP.

Lama051 · 02-19-2011, 11:11 PM

Obvious T-Up is obvious.

Tschena · 02-19-2011, 11:14 PM

T - up

DESSSSSSSSS · 02-20-2011, 12:22 AM

making 100% sense and if people abuse it, it sux!

T-up

jesusatan · 02-20-2011, 08:55 AM

What the... That's a serious exploit in CM mode... It must be fixed, now !

Whitefang · 02-20-2011, 10:18 AM

Is this really true? I never realize it before.. Thumbs Up!

Ultra_Rasengan · 02-20-2011, 02:21 PM

I don't know if fixed lol why not After -CM picks/ban is ended, then start the 1000/3000 count, btw t-up

_Aurora_ · 02-20-2011, 07:50 PM

Good job on finding it !

T-up ofcourse.

Nanaya Shiki · 02-22-2011, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra_Rasengan

I don't know if fixed lol why not After -CM picks/ban is ended, then start the 1000/3000 count.

Ah yes.

Marn_ · 02-22-2011, 05:59 AM

Obvious T-up is obvious. Good one.

devilsapphiron · 02-23-2011, 10:33 PM

T-up!!

Yago · 02-26-2011, 06:57 AM

Nice find! Had no clue about such an exploit.

T-Up!

dominator02 · 02-26-2011, 09:13 AM

Support!

Fixing some very tricky things.

DaRkFoRcEs · 03-01-2011, 12:54 AM

T-up

Nanaya Shiki · 03-07-2011, 07:51 AM

Bump.

02-19-2011, 08:32 AM	#1
Nanaya Shiki Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,427	[Tweak]Number of creeps per wave After each 1000 seconds when the map has been loaded, a melee creep will be added to a wave. And after each 3000 seconds for a ranged one. You will ask why I said it? Look at the -cm mode: If you or your opponent take too much time for banning/picking, the amount of creeps will be increased because time is not counted when you has finished picking, it is counted when the map has been loaded. This is a small trick, and Chinese teams usuallly use it when they need to turtle (like this replay). So here is my suggestion: Fix it. Change it to "After each 1000/3000s when the first creep wave spawn". IMO this suggestion would encourage ganking, and in a serious -cm game, there shouldn't be a trick like this. __________________

02-19-2011, 02:58 PM	#2
Nanaya Shiki Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,427	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave Any thought? __________________

02-19-2011, 05:39 PM	#4
Don86 Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 208	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave Simple enough. T-up. __________________ [GameText] Hero's name in Kill/Death announcement [Remake]Icon+Name+Animation+Ability for Shrapnel [Remake]New Abilities for Sange & Yasha's Maim [Command]-report or -r to report missing heroes [Scoreboard]GlyphofFort's timer for your own team [Tweak]Morphling's 3rd empty slot Autocast toggle [Tweak]Spirit Bear should have worker or hero icon [Tweak]Shop priority within any CTRL 1-0 group key [Tweak]Autocast Toggle for orb walking heroes [Tweak]Autocast "Pickup all Items" + "Drop Items"

02-19-2011, 05:42 PM	#5
ninguem Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 613	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave This is no tweak - it is a major bug!

02-19-2011, 06:04 PM	#6
Lanther Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,863	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave Good reasoning. T-UP.

02-19-2011, 11:11 PM	#7
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02-19-2011, 11:14 PM	#8
Tschena Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Serbia Posts: 25 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave T - up __________________ Eurobattle.net/Playdota.Eu - Icypig Powered by LSD Version 7.9. Copyright & copy; 2011, Icypig

02-20-2011, 12:22 AM	#9
DESSSSSSSSS Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Halle,Germany Posts: 224	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave making 100% sense and if people abuse it, it sux! T-up

02-20-2011, 08:55 AM	#10
jesusatan Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 2,540 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave What the... That's a serious exploit in CM mode... It must be fixed, now !

02-20-2011, 10:18 AM	#11
Whitefang Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Malaysia Posts: 1,630	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave Is this really true? I never realize it before.. Thumbs Up!

02-20-2011, 02:21 PM	#12
Ultra_Rasengan Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Land of the Three Stars and a Sun Posts: 2,721 Blog Entries: 23	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave I don't know if fixed lol why not After -CM picks/ban is ended, then start the 1000/3000 count, btw t-up __________________ DOTA2 SIG NET Want a Dota 2 Gift? I want a Minecraft Gift Code, let's trade via steam and PM, click here ~Thanks to Fate Trap for this~

02-20-2011, 07:50 PM	#13
_Aurora_ Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland Posts: 1,914	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave Good job on finding it ! T-up ofcourse. __________________ By Bardenne By Destiny PDIH How to get vouched into PDIH : http://www.playdota.com/forums/53910...h/#post2871131

02-22-2011, 05:59 AM	#15
Marn_ Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brazil Posts: 297	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave Obvious T-up is obvious. Good one. __________________ Brave.

02-23-2011, 10:33 PM	#16
devilsapphiron Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 28	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave T-up!!

02-26-2011, 06:57 AM	#17
Yago Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: United States Posts: 1,068	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave Nice find! Had no clue about such an exploit. T-Up! __________________ Suggestions: TA Agha: http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=409852 S&Y Buff: http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=621909

02-26-2011, 09:13 AM	#18
dominator02 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 7,765	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave Support! Fixing some very tricky things. __________________

03-01-2011, 12:54 AM	#19
DaRkFoRcEs Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 54	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave T-up

03-07-2011, 07:51 AM	#20
Nanaya Shiki Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,427	Re: [Tweak]Number of creeps per wave Bump. __________________