mini guide to demolish (quelling blade)

antiweltteilchen · 06-17-2009, 03:34 PM

sigh ok i'll give an example to that. edited.

VadujE · 06-21-2009, 01:49 PM

little question about e5:

What are the consequences?
Does quelling blade meele work on ranged heros, like the old basher on troll did e.g., or is it kinda disabled, like Skadi ranged on meele heros?

antiweltteilchen · 06-21-2009, 01:54 PM

no it works. so just like old basher.

multi · 06-21-2009, 08:29 PM

thank you !!

ahber0314 · 06-22-2009, 07:57 AM

Does quelling blade work on Roshan?

SoletLuna · 06-22-2009, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahber0314

Does quelling blade work on Roshan?

Yes. (Tested in 6.60, though).

If Ice didn't change anything regarding targets, it should be the same for 6.60b.

pd.erMing · 06-22-2009, 09:25 AM

cool. .thx for info

antiweltteilchen · 06-22-2009, 09:31 AM

targets are still 'targs1=enemies,ground,nonhero,organic' so yes it works on roshan.

lucifer3009 · 06-24-2009, 02:44 PM

Quote:

targets are still 'targs1=enemies,ground,nonhero,ORGANIC' so yes it works on roshan.

Did it work on towers ???

antiweltteilchen · 06-24-2009, 03:17 PM

no. towers aren't organic. and structures also aren't allowed targets.

initialdylan · 06-25-2009, 03:42 AM

Thanks. Learnt a lot.

RaistMagus · 06-26-2009, 10:01 AM

So can we deduce that Luna + quelling blabe = imba aoe farm?

antiweltteilchen · 06-26-2009, 10:09 AM

12% isn't that much on ranged heros. also luna gets lifesteal quite early in most cases which kills the effect of Quelling blade.

PPK · 06-29-2009, 08:06 AM

So, if I understand you right QB working with SpiritBear level 1 and 2.

On level 3 Bear get Entangle. Is QB working?
On level 4 Bear get Demolish. Is QB working?

Also, I read on old forum that QB is not working on Abaddon if Abaddon get Frostmourne.

Foede · 06-29-2009, 08:21 AM

From the OP:
e3: spirit bears entangle only stacks with his demolish ability because they got different allowed targets.

On lvl4, the bear's demolish overrides QB's one.

Also from the OP:
it seems like demolish behaves like an orb effect which is overwritten by any other orb effect.

Frostmourne is a buff placer, and buff placers stack with orb effects.

PPK · 06-29-2009, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foede

From the OP:
e3: spirit bears entangle only stacks with his demolish ability because they got different allowed targets.

Ok, thx.

Spirit bears entangle and QB have the same allowed targets (organic) - so QB is not working with Spirit Bear lvl 3.

antiweltteilchen · 06-29-2009, 11:13 AM

he talked about spirit bears demolish ability he gains with lvl 4, not QB.

PPK · 06-29-2009, 12:10 PM

Sorry for my english - it is not native for me.

May be some misunderstanding here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by awt

he talked about spirit bears demolish ability he gains with lvl 4, not QB.

We are speaking about QB. On level 3 Bear get Entangle (orb) and QB stop working. Is it true?

If yes - no matter about level 4, if QB already not working from level 3.

antiweltteilchen · 06-29-2009, 03:24 PM

yep QB isn't working on lvl 3 and above because of the entangle.
the thread isn't only about QB because spirit bears demolish is also demolish based.
it's just not that important for strategy (because most orbs etc don't work on buildings which are the allowed targets for bears demolish) and if you read guide to demolish most guys don't think about QB that's why i wrote it down there.

e: i rewrote the guide. hopefully it's better to udnerstand now.

Baconnaise · 07-08-2009, 09:38 AM

Hmm, on a hero if i bought a quelling blade and an sny would the quelling blade NEVER work or just when the sny doesn't proc?

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06-29-2009, 03:24 PM	#39
antiweltteilchen Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: germany Posts: 3,252	yep QB isn't working on lvl 3 and above because of the entangle. the thread isn't only about QB because spirit bears demolish is also demolish based. it's just not that important for strategy (because most orbs etc don't work on buildings which are the allowed targets for bears demolish) and if you read guide to demolish most guys don't think about QB that's why i wrote it down there. e: i rewrote the guide. hopefully it's better to udnerstand now.

Last edited by antiweltteilchen; 06-29-2009 at 05:05 PM.

06-21-2009, 01:49 PM	#22
VadujE Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 329	little question about e5: What are the consequences? Does quelling blade meele work on ranged heros, like the old basher on troll did e.g., or is it kinda disabled, like Skadi ranged on meele heros?

06-21-2009, 01:54 PM	#23
antiweltteilchen Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: germany Posts: 3,252	no it works. so just like old basher.

06-22-2009, 07:57 AM	#25
ahber0314 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: JB, Msia Posts: 4	Does quelling blade work on Roshan?

06-22-2009, 09:31 AM	#28
antiweltteilchen Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: germany Posts: 3,252	targets are still 'targs1=enemies,ground,nonhero,organic' so yes it works on roshan.

06-24-2009, 03:17 PM	#30
antiweltteilchen Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: germany Posts: 3,252	no. towers aren't organic. and structures also aren't allowed targets.

06-26-2009, 10:09 AM	#33
antiweltteilchen Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: germany Posts: 3,252	12% isn't that much on ranged heros. also luna gets lifesteal quite early in most cases which kills the effect of Quelling blade.

06-29-2009, 08:06 AM	#34
PPK Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 20	So, if I understand you right QB working with SpiritBear level 1 and 2. On level 3 Bear get Entangle. Is QB working? On level 4 Bear get Demolish. Is QB working? Also, I read on old forum that QB is not working on Abaddon if Abaddon get Frostmourne.

06-29-2009, 08:21 AM	#35
Foede Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Elysian Fields Posts: 15,553	From the OP: e3: spirit bears entangle only stacks with his demolish ability because they got different allowed targets. On lvl4, the bear's demolish overrides QB's one. Also from the OP: it seems like demolish behaves like an orb effect which is overwritten by any other orb effect. Frostmourne is a buff placer, and buff placers stack with orb effects.

06-29-2009, 11:13 AM	#37
antiweltteilchen Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: germany Posts: 3,252	he talked about spirit bears demolish ability he gains with lvl 4, not QB.

07-08-2009, 09:38 AM	#40
Baconnaise Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,267	Re: mini guide to demolish (quelling blade) Hmm, on a hero if i bought a quelling blade and an sny would the quelling blade NEVER work or just when the sny doesn't proc?