[ITEM]Illusory Manteau

[CaptainPlatypus]

Illusory Manteau

600

Bought From :
Arcane Sanctum

OMG h4x!

Facade (Active)

• When you activate Illusory Manteau, it spawns one illusion of you that receives 400% damage and deals no damage. Costs 25 mana.
• The illusion has a duration of 30s and a cooldown of 60s.
• The illusion spawns directly in front of you, a la an illusion rune - there is NO manta-style split.
• The illusion will go through attack animations and otherwise behave as normal, but will always deal 0 damage.

Arguments in favor:

• It rounds out the set of "2x +3 stat item" recipes (PMS, urn, manteau)
• It uses a ring of protection, which is currently used in only one recipe item (RoB and everything it spawns)
• It requires a recipe, which means no accidental completion
• There's currently only one other item that does anything like it (manta also spawns illusions)
• It's bought from the Arcane Sanctum, which currently has fewer items than every other shop
• The illusion doesn't serve any "directly useful" purposes, like attacking, tanking, or so on, but it can perform useful functions for you and your team with proper management:
  • Scouting (duration/cooldown is as is primarily to prevent abuse of this function)
  • Distraction (fake ganks/counterganks and scare off your target/draw them to waste spells)
  • Delay reactions (if they're used to getting "ganked" by an image, they'll react more slowly to being ganked by YOU)
  • Block paths (either just run it in front of your target and spam s like you're blocking creeps, or run through the forest and either turn and use it, or use it and activate phase boots - it will block any pursuers but not you)
  • Tank a tower hit or two while you dive
  • Lull your opponents (leave it in lane to make it look like you're there while you gank another lane)
  • Spread radiance and auras (if this is too abusable, this function could always be removed via triggers, but considering the image's likely survivability...)

So what do you folks think? Note that the icon could definitely use some improvement, or maybe even just a recoloring/blurring? I don't know, I don't do graphics. Help!

(Format by NoThlnG - thank you! A "manteau" is basically a cloak/cape, but more French!)

[Antonius_Block]

Lol, that template is not mine. Nice item BTW but I don't know if illusions are that useful for intelligence heroes. Why not make it so you can spawn an illusion (with those same characteristics) of a target?

[Fluicor]

Love it.Core for axe XD

T-Up

Also core for batrider.I always get RoP to tower dive,and the illusion would be fireflying,so more firefly damage

[pilz]

Nice idea T-up I love illusions.

[CaptainPlatypus]

Originally Posted by Fluicor

Love it.Core for axe XD

T-Up

Also core for batrider.I always get RoP to tower dive,and the illusion would be fireflying,so more firefly damage

Oh man, didn't think of either of those. Love it. Dark seer would probably work pretty damn well, too. Not to mention that on bat, the illusion can soak up a couple tower hits for you if you let it enter range first (or just order an attack with it).

Originally Posted by rafiiki

Lol, that template is not mine.

Well, whose is it then? I want to source it properly!

[Antonius_Block]

I don't know who is it from I got it from the sticky of useful links

[CaptainPlatypus]

It's by NoThlnG, thanks.

[Yago]

T-Up
I really like this item. I think that perhaps the illusion should have a 30 second duration, but be unable to leave more than 1250 AoE of where it was created. This way, you could actually pull of some ganks. As it is right now, if you used this then tried to leave your lane, you wouldn't get very far before being noticed... Especially in a -cm game where there's lots of wards.

[Fate Trap]

Nice concept...

[Tomarzig]

Great !

[Infrisios]

0 damage is easily possible, it is even normal for illusions in ladder.

I love it!

[CaptainPlatypus]

Originally Posted by Yago

T-Up
I really like this item. I think that perhaps the illusion should have a 30 second duration, but be unable to leave more than 1250 AoE of where it was created. This way, you could actually pull of some ganks. As it is right now, if you used this then tried to leave your lane, you wouldn't get very far before being noticed... Especially in a -cm game where there's lots of wards.

Hey, that's a really cool idea too. I don't like the "can't leave the AoE" provision - I mean, well, I like it, but I think it might be too restrictive on the other uses of the item - but I really do like the idea of increasing the duration so you can leave it in lane while you gank. How do you feel about, say, a 25 or 50 mana cost (so you can't abuse that too much early without some way to handle the extra mana loss) and a 25/50 duration/cooldown?

Originally Posted by Infrisios

0 damage is easily possible, it is even normal for illusions in ladder.

I love it!

Heh, shows how much I know about the game. Edited accordingly, thanks.

[paulo_2_5]

T-up.
Really good.
Increases the possibilities of Early Int-gankers and can tower dive (Okay, maybe 2-3 hits but that is something).

[windowlicka]

This item would be too huge a nerf to goblin techies.

[Yago]

@ CaptainPlatypus

I think that might be good. The AoE thing is a bit restrictive, however, AoE could always be decided by Icefrog etc. It DOES round out the set, and I really like it.

[CaptainPlatypus]

Originally Posted by Yago

@ CaptainPlatypus

I think that might be good. The AoE thing is a bit restrictive, however, AoE could always be decided by Icefrog etc. It DOES round out the set, and I really like it.

I'll implement the changes I suggested, then. If the extra duration is too good, the cooldown could always be nerfed.

Originally Posted by windowlicka

This item would be too huge a nerf to goblin techies.

Not really. I mean, yeah, it would suck if you lost a big stack of land mines to an image early, but illusion runes can do that to you already, wards can keep you from putting them anywhere useful in the first place, and really they're better off used for pushing anyway.

[GEBnaman]

A very nice idea, but in comparison to Shadow Urn and PMS, it's much more useful and versatile IMO, so an increase in it's price and probably add more stats by using more items in the recipe.

[CaptainPlatypus]

Originally Posted by GEBnaman

A very nice idea, but in comparison to Shadow Urn and PMS, it's much more useful and versatile IMO, so an increase in it's price and probably add more stats by using more items in the recipe.

Well, it has a different purpose than either. Urn is a fantastic direct damage/heal item for gankers who are around a lot of kills to charge it up. PMS is a fantastic way for melee heroes, particularly agility ones, to take less harassment damage in lane (though it's not very useful when a trilane can just kill your ass from full HP). IM has absolutely no direct applications, aura cloning notwithstanding, and can exclusively be used for mind games and blocking.

That said, if you feel it's too powerful for the cost in the current state, I'll have to decide if I'd rather nerf it or increase the cost, and I'm not sure - on the one hand, I really like the concept, but on the other hand, I came up with the idea while specifically trying to think of an item to round out the urn/PMS set. Anything more than ~1000 gold would probably be too much to qualify.

[CaptainPlatypus]

Bumpity bump bump bumpity bump.

[D' Eradicated]

T-Up... Maybe I can tweak some of the effects, may I..?

Illusory Manteau

800

Bought From :


A magical mantle which gives bearer the power to conjure essences of itself.

Facade

• Spawns an illusion in front of you which deals 0 damage and takes 500% damage. Illusion lasts 30 seconds or until it dies.
• Manacost is 25. Cooldown is 60 seconds.

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A magical mantle which gives bearer the power to conjure essences of itself.[/center]

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