[INT-SRG] Soulsap, Corrupted Tree of Life

[gamerinboxers]

• Hero Introduction
• Attributes
• Skills
• Synergy
• Changelog
• Credits

• Hero Model
• Introduction
• Background Story
• Pro/Cons
  

Corrupted Tree of Life Soulsap

The basic concept of this hero is to introduce the use of mirco-damage. Hope you will enjoy this hero.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. If you do not understand any skill/s, please feel free to ask, as I will gladly explain for you. Just don’t flame me

Skill 1 is a passive orb attack that boosts your attack output but across a period of time.
Skill 2 is AoE DPS that can be casted on allies or enemies. The damage output is very low, but if coupled with additional casts from this spell, the damage could be scary.
Skill 3 is a channeling spell that summons ghost to attack for you randomly. Moderate-high damage. More useful against single targets.
Ulti is the signature skill that boost all mirco-damage. Woot!

Actively participate in my thread if you really think you wish to play this hero. Will also appreciate any signature riding if you like my suggestion/s.

Test Map developers are highly appreciated too. PM me!

Thanks for reading! Enjoy!

*Work in Progress*.

Pros

• pro1.
• pro2.
• pro3.

Cons

• con1.
• con2.
• con3.

• Statistics
• Advanced Statistics
  

Strength Agility Intelligence 23 + 2.0 14 + 1.1 26 + 3.2

Starting HP/MP: 469/214 Base Stats: 63 Stats Gain: 6.3 Primary Role: Team Split/Spammer

Affiliation:	Scourge		Attack Animation:	0.5 / 0.3
Damage:	48-56		Casting Animation:	0.001 / 0.51
Armor:	1.2		Base Attack Time:	1.2
Movespeed:	300		Missile Speed:	0.3
Attack Range:	500		Sight Range:	1800 / 1200

• Torment Soul
• Acid Rain
• Feasting Ghost
• Soul Tapper
  

Type: Toggle Targeting: Enemy Hotkey: T

Instead of causing physical harm to its enemies, Soulsap attacks directly into the soul of those who faces it. The target has to face with a tormenting pain to its soul over a long period of time.

	Mana	Cooldown	Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	20	4	0	0	12	Orb Effect. -60% Attack Damage on first strike. Each attack debuffs target that deals 5% of Attack Damage per second.
2	30	3	0	0	15	Orb Effect. -60% Attack Damage on first strike. Each attack debuffs target that deals 5% of Attack Damage per second.
3	40	2	0	0	18	Orb Effect. -60% Attack Damage on first strike. Each attack debuffs target that deals 5% of Attack Damage per second.
4	50	0	0	0	21	Orb Effect. -60% Attack Damage on first strike. Each attack debuffs target that deals 5% of Attack Damage per second.

• Debuff stacks.
• Damage is physical.
• Additional damage per level: 0/15/30/45 %

Type: Active Targeting: Target(All) Hotkey: R

Soulsap calls down an acid rain on its enemies, slowly corroding both the target’s life and armor.

	Mana	Cooldown	Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	25	6	600	600	24	Summons a cloud of acid rain over target. Deals 2 dps and reduces armor by 0.4.
2	50	6	600	625	24	Summons a cloud of acid rain over target. Deals 4 dps and reduces armor by 0.8.
3	75	6	600	650	24	Summons a cloud of acid rain over target. Deals 6 dps and reduces armor by 1.2.
4	100	6	600	675	24	Summons a cloud of acid rain over target. Deals 8 dps and reduces armor by 1.6.

• Non stack-able on single unit, but effects can stack if casted on different units.
• Max damage per level: 48/96/144/192
• Max number of units with effects of acid rain = 24/6 = 4

Type: Channeling Targeting: Self Hotkey: E

Soulsap loosen the grasp on its captured souls and allows it to roam freely to feed.

	Mana	Cooldown	Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	75	14	0	500	6	Summons 10 trapped souls. Souls deals 1-2 chaos damage and attacks every second. Souls move at 522 MS and attacks randomly but cannot leave AoE.
2	95	14	0	550	6	Summons 20 trapped souls. Souls deals 1-2 chaos damage and attacks every second. Souls move at 522 MS and attacks randomly but cannot leave AoE.
3	115	14	0	600	6	Summons 30 trapped souls. Souls deals 1-2 chaos damage and attacks every second. Souls move at 522 MS and attacks randomly but cannot leave AoE.
4	135	14	0	650	6	Summons 40 trapped souls. Souls deals 1-2 chaos damage and attacks every second. Souls move at 522 MS and attacks randomly but cannot leave AoE.

• Souls are tiny tiny tiny white specks of light with no collusion.

Type: Passive Targeting: Self Hotkey: -

Soulsap taps into the soul of all near it. Enhancing all pain its enemy feels. When a soul leaves the physical body, Soulsap saps the soul within it which ehances its bark-skin.

	Mana	Cooldown	Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	0	0	0	800	0	Deals 1 pure damage to enemy every time it receives damage. When an enemy hero dies within AoE, the soul is absorb and Soulsap receives 10% of enemy max HP. If an enemy hero has its soul captured by Soulsap and is within AoE, Soulsap receives 4 armor and 5% magic reduction.
2	0	0	0	1000	0	Deals 2 pure damage to enemy every time it receives damage. When an enemy hero dies within AoE, the soul is absorb and Soulsap receives 15% of enemy max HP. If an enemy hero has its soul captured by Soulsap and is within AoE, Soulsap receives 6 armor and 7.5% magic reduction.
3	0	0	0	1200	0	Deals 3 pure damage to enemy every time it receives damage. When an enemy hero dies within AoE, the soul is absorb and Soulsap receives 20% of enemy max HP. If an enemy hero has its soul captured by Soulsap and is within AoE, Soulsap receives 8 armor and 10% magic reduction.
	0	0	0	0	0	Allows Soupsap to keep 2 copies of enemy hero’s soul. Loss 1 copy upon death.

• Losses enemy heros’ soul upon death.
• Can only keep 1 soul per enemy hero unless aghanim.

• Skill Synergy
• Hero Synergy
• Item Synergy
  

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Changelog
13/03/2011

• Reduce attack range from 600 to 500.
• Change Skill 1 from passive to toggle.
• Change Skill 1 Icon to reflect toggle.

06/03/2011

• Created Soulsap, Corrupted Tree of Life.

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[SpiderPig]

You can't detect damage from a unit
so the first skill is uncodeable(the dps based on damage part)

[Antonius_Block]

Soul Tapper is cool. 3rd skill is too similar to Exorcism. 1st is uncodable. Otherwise, nice concept just tweak some skills and will be great

[Lill]

You can't detect damage from a unit
so the first skill is uncodeable(the dps based on damage part)

Sure you can. Weaver's Germinate attack does it.
However, DotA's current engine can only detect how much damage a unit dealt; it cannot check how much damage a unit may deal. As an example, Weaver's skill works because an attack is needed to activate the skill, telling the trigger how much damage it is going to deal. However, we could not make a targeted, activated skill that dealt damage depending on your attack damage, since we have no way of retrieving that information.

For another example, look at Tuskarr's ultimate. It's impossible that it gives him a passive critical strike inside a disabled spellbook, because the factor that it's going to multiply damage with is variable. Thus, the extra, critical damage is triggered and in order to deal that extra damage you need to know how much damage was dealt in the first place.

[SpiderPig]

/\nope, the engine can't see a unit's damage, it just gives weaver 400% attackspeed for another hit

[Sgt Failure]

Originally Posted by Lill

Sure you can. Weaver's Germinate attack does it.
However, DotA's current engine can only detect how much damage a unit dealt; it cannot check how much damage a unit may deal. As an example, Weaver's skill works because an attack is needed to activate the skill, telling the trigger how much damage it is going to deal. However, we could not make a targeted, activated skill that dealt damage depending on your attack damage, since we have no way of retrieving that information.

For another example, look at Tuskarr's ultimate. It's impossible that it gives him a passive critical strike inside a disabled spellbook, because the factor that it's going to multiply damage with is variable. Thus, the extra, critical damage is triggered and in order to deal that extra damage you need to know how much damage was dealt in the first place.

Don't talk unless you know what you are saying, please.

You cannot detect the damage a unit posseses, nor the bonuses gained from buffs and items. I e, uncodeable

[Lill]

it just gives weaver 400% attackspeed for another hit

Incorrect, if it would be as you decribed, then weaver would need to be still while the extra attack would be launched. He would also need to be within attacking range when the extra attack launches. You don't have to be either, you can even be invisible when the extra attack launches.

Don't talk unless you know what you are saying, please.

I agree. Don't talk unless you know what you are saying.

You cannot detect the damage a unit posseses, nor the bonuses gained from buffs and items.

And I said so myself. However, the skill would still be codeable since you CAN detect the amount of damage that was DEALT from an attack.

If it would be impossible to detect damage dealt from an attack, then how is Tuskarr's ultimate coded? His ultimate uses a damage event response as a trigger event for the launch. You're saying that it is impossible to discern whether the values gotten from the event response that returns damage taken is through an attack or through whatever other means there are. Then, why is it that it doesn't trigger from other sources of damage, such as his snowball? Also, since it uses damage event, how does it modify the damage? Since the damage has already been dealt by the time Tuskarr hits his enemy, we can't add some kind of Critical Strike to him in order to make him deal extra damage in that way. Thus, the only way the Critical could be coded would be by getting the damage dealt and then dealing additional damage depending on it.

[gamerinboxers]

Chill guys... =P
I was thinking more of reducing the attack by 60% when attacking, but summon a illusion that does 5% damage but invulnerable as graphic, if its not code-able. =)
Will that work?

[Lill]

I'm not sure if Invulnerable / Locust are abilities that can be given after creation of a unit, especially if it's an illusion. But it doesn't matter, the current version is codeable.

[MassBalance]

I like this hero except for the first skill. laning against this hero is gonna be like laning against huskar+zues in omg mode on crack, the mana costs are super low and he has a super harassing orb. to balance him, i would recommend nerfing his range to atleast 450 since he has so much lane presence.

[wreckagemaster]

T-up on the concept.
The hero should be a bit balanced by rescaling 1st power duration to 6/10/14/18.

[gamerinboxers]

Originally Posted by MassBalance

I like this hero except for the first skill. laning against this hero is gonna be like laning against huskar+zues in omg mode on crack, the mana costs are super low and he has a super harassing orb. to balance him, i would recommend nerfing his range to atleast 450 since he has so much lane presence.

Originally Posted by wreckagemaster

T-up on the concept.
The hero should be a bit balanced by rescaling 1st power duration to 6/10/14/18.

To both: Yup, nerf skill 1 from passive to toggle and range decrease~
Hope its better now~ =)

[Panoramik-]

Excluding the ult, I don't really see much synergy between the other skills.

Even still, all the abilities are interesting, and I love Acid Rain.

On the ult does the armor/resistance last indefinitely until he dies? If so 6 and 8 seems like a lot. Maybe 3/4/5 instead?

[gamerinboxers]

Originally Posted by Panoramik-

Excluding the ult, I don't really see much synergy between the other skills.

Even still, all the abilities are interesting, and I love Acid Rain.

On the ult does the armor/resistance last indefinitely until he dies? If so 6 and 8 seems like a lot. Maybe 3/4/5 instead?

Thanks for the comment. I argee that the synergy between the basic skills are not really in existence.. haha.. u got me there.. ws building the hero more on the mirco-damager point of view and overlook this part.. lets see what i can do or not do... LoL..

The ulti boost only occurs if the enemy hero is in AoE and Soulsap has a copy of its soul.. else there is no boost... =)
So i don't think there is a need to reduce the armor gain for now~ =p

[Padsoldier]

Despite 1st spell is uncodeable (like many said before) the concept is cool, I like this hero, maybe the spells combined with ultimate are too powerful...

[gamerinboxers]

Originally Posted by Padsoldier

Despite 1st spell is uncodeable (like many said before) the concept is cool, I like this hero, maybe the spells combined with ultimate are too powerful...

Hey paddy, thanks for liking da tree. Well, actually i don't think its uncodable. Look at the final comment by me and Lill. =)

Well.. that's the point of the ulti.. its to make mirco-damage deadlier right? hehe =p

[Talor Karos]

[quote]Souls are tiny tiny tiny white specks of light with no collusion.[.quote] Collision, you mean? Anyway, isn't this like Exorcism, only there are more ghosts, their damage is small, and the hero has to channel it? I guess it synergizes with the 2nd skill's armor reduction penalty as well as the (conditional) armor and magic resistance buff of the ultimate skill. Not much to do with the first skill though.

[zealot2011]

where did u get the hero skin?

[twoeyedyum]

Originally Posted by zealot2011

where did u get the hero skin?

Existing game model, used in campaigns.

On codeability of 1st: guys, plz search forum, and don't argue

[wenyao96]

so....its a dmg over time hero??
great concept but theres still room for improvement!