Tweak Stone Gaze

darewin · 03-08-2011, 02:21 AM

We all know or most of us know that the higher the level of Stone Gaze the worse its attackspeed reduction is. SO why do we not reverse the effects?

I suggest making stone gaze:

Lvl1
Slow attacks by a factor 5, stops movement. Deals 600 damage to illusions and summoned units.

Lvl2
Slow attacks by a factor 4, stops movement. Deals 800 damage to illusions and summoned units.

Lvl3
Slow attacks by a factor 2, stops movement. Deals 1000 damage to illusions and summoned units.

condorzai · 03-08-2011, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darewin

We all know or most of us know that the higher the level of Stone Gaze the worse its attackspeed reduction is.

If real then T-UP, if no then LMAO GTFO.

Guardian AngeL · 03-08-2011, 03:34 AM

I didn't found anything about "factor" from AS wiki Attack Speed - DotA Wiki

Anyway current is slows more per level.

Monsterlord · 03-08-2011, 05:14 AM

Somebody doesnt understand how the ulti works...

darewin · 03-08-2011, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guardian AngeL

I didn't found anything about "factor" from AS wiki Attack Speed - DotA Wiki

Anyway current is slows more per level.

You haven't found anything about it so you just assume current slows more per level huh?

Here is a per second detail description on the gaze slow per level.

Level1 Stone Gaze
Slows by 100% from 0.00 to 1.00 secs after cast
Slows by 100% from 1.01 to 2.00 secs after cast
Slows by 100% from 2.01 to 2.50 secs after cast
Slows by 50% from 2.51 to 3.00 secs after cast
Slows by 50% from 3.01 to 4.00 secs after cast
Slows by 50% from 4.01 to 5.00 secs after cast
Purge ends after 5 secs

Level2 Stone Gaze
Slows by 100% from 0.00 to 1.00 secs after cast
Slows by 100% from 1.01 to 1.67 secs after cast
Slows by 66.7% from 1.67 to 2.00 secs after cast
Slows by 66.7 from 2.01 to 3.00 secs after cast
Slows by 66.7 from 3.01 to 3.33 secs after cast
Slows by 50% from 3.34 to 4.00 secs after cast
Slows by 50% from 4.01 to 5.00 secs after cast
Purge ends after 5 secs

Level3 Stone Gaze
Slows by 100% from 0.00 to 1.00 secs after cast
Slows by 80% from 1.01 to 2.00 secs after cast
Slows by 60% from 2.01 to 3.00 secs after cast
Slows by 40% from 3.01 to 4.00 secs after cast
Slows by 20% from 4.01 to 5.00 secs after cast
Purge ends after 5 secs

The Detailed Link can be found here on the
Mini Guide to Purge

Hugaw · 03-08-2011, 01:58 PM

wooot?!

Torchic Maniac · 03-08-2011, 03:15 PM

If that info is right, then T-up.
I thought the factor goes lower per level, not higher.

Dr_JP · 03-08-2011, 06:38 PM

I can be wrong, but the "factor" is the IAS/X, which X = factor.

So, factor 2 = half their AS.

Factor 4 = 25% of their AS.

Factor 5 = 20% ...

Am I wrong?

Well...there's a reference about its mechs. Never mind this.

Yendor · 03-08-2011, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugaw

wooot?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torchic Maniac

If that info is right, then T-up.
I thought the factor goes lower per level, not higher.

He is 100% right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_JP

I can be wrong, but the "factor" is the IAS/X, which X = factor.

So, factor 2 = half their AS.

Factor 4 = 25% of their AS.

Factor 5 = 20% ...

Am I wrong?

Well...there's a reference about its mechs. Never mind this.

The factor is refering to the "regain" interval.
Or if you want to say so, it is refering to the number of different slows.

So the factor of 2 has 2 seperate slow intervals. One of 100%, and one of 50% after which the unit is moving normay again.

=> 2 slows, => factor 2

The factor of 3 means that there are 3 intervals.
100%, 66.7% and 33.3%

=> 3 slows, => factor 3

While factor 5 means (who would have guessed it?) that there are 5 intervals.
100%
80%
60%
40%
and 20%

=> 5 slows, => factor 5

Foede · 03-08-2011, 06:50 PM

EDIT: Confirmed below o.o

Yendor · 03-08-2011, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foede

I'm extremely skeptical of OP's findings, and I'd much rather have some mech confirmation on this one...

http://www.playdota.com/forums/37061...e/#post1937293

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordshinjo

Also if you do the maths, you can realize that a higher level of Stone Gaze actually slows less.

There you go

Dr_JP · 03-08-2011, 07:03 PM

Thanx Yendor for the explanation.

Also, I've just read the purge guide.

I guess word "factor" should be replaced to "instances".
English isn't my language, but factor can be interpreted as denominator IMO.

Then...I t-up.
More instances of slow, or "factor", means the enemy will get a smoother slow, so that's better for enemy and worse for you.

fan.god · 03-09-2011, 01:10 AM

Wow, I also assumed that higher lvl of stone gaze means better slow...
t-up then.

Nanaya Shiki · 03-09-2011, 01:35 AM

Well, T-up. Fix this stupid bug plz.

Cueshe · 03-10-2011, 10:58 AM

T-Up.

Mr. Burns · 03-10-2011, 12:45 PM

Walrus is right! T-up!

vandi94 · 03-10-2011, 01:43 PM

D' Eradicated · 03-10-2011, 03:52 PM

T-Up...

Esper · 03-24-2011, 09:10 AM

Nvm T-UP

Sinisterz · 03-29-2011, 12:18 PM

03-08-2011, 02:21 AM	#1
darewin Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 7,352 Blog Entries: 7	Tweak Stone Gaze We all know or most of us know that the higher the level of Stone Gaze the worse its attackspeed reduction is. SO why do we not reverse the effects? I suggest making stone gaze: Lvl1 Slow attacks by a factor 5, stops movement. Deals 600 damage to illusions and summoned units. Lvl2 Slow attacks by a factor 4, stops movement. Deals 800 damage to illusions and summoned units. Lvl3 Slow attacks by a factor 2, stops movement. Deals 1000 damage to illusions and summoned units. __________________ Tweak/Fix Stone Gaze (Implemented in 6.72) Yeah, everyone must be a Panda! Shadow Panda, Panda Bringer, Pandrow Ranger, Panda Giant, Pandamaster, oh yeah, so much pandas

03-08-2011, 05:14 AM	#4
Monsterlord Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,835	Re: Tweak Stone Gaze Somebody doesnt understand how the ulti works...

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Hugaw Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Roshan Pit Posts: 1,154	Re: Tweak Stone Gaze wooot?!

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Torchic Maniac Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 643 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Tweak Stone Gaze If that info is right, then T-up. I thought the factor goes lower per level, not higher. __________________ Suggestion Review Status: CLOSED

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03-10-2011, 12:45 PM	#16
Mr. Burns Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: In my mansion (in Finland) Posts: 6,272 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Tweak Stone Gaze Walrus is right! T-up! __________________

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