[Mechanics] Scaling Buyback Cooldown

Captain Planet · 04-13-2011, 07:27 AM

Current Time: 240 seconds
Proposed Time: (Time / 10 - Level) seconds
Examples:

Level 15, 20 minutes:
- Current: 240 seconds (4m)
- Proposed: 105 seconds (1m 45s)
Level 25, 45 minutes:
- Current: 240 seconds (4m)
- Proposed: 245 seconds (4m 05s)
Buyback cooldown is limited to 260 seconds (4min 20sec)

Pros [+]

Buyback time scales, so shorter games means more action for everyone
Less frustration because buybacks are easier in shorter games
More fair at earlier levels and short games
Promotes shorter games because it gets harder to defend, the longer your buyback cooldown

Cons [-]

Slightly longer wait than current after 45 minutes

Sven2k · 04-13-2011, 07:39 AM

T-up

ninguem · 04-13-2011, 09:56 PM

I'm not sure this would help much. Few people want to or can buyback multiple times early game. Lategame, the current constant buyback cooldown seems to be doing its job well for now.

Anyway, I'm not sure the Suggestions forum is the best place for this. The buyback cooldown is purely a balance issue and Icefrog usually handles this kind of thing by himself.

Captain Planet · 04-15-2011, 03:00 PM

I think the cooldown should be scaled because not every game runs for an age. In some game you may be defending crucially at an early time, and thus multiple buybacks may be needed. I think having a scaling time is more beneficial than a fixed one.

chukky-jr · 04-15-2011, 03:16 PM

why not scale it like bkb? the more you buyback, the longer the cooldown.

God_ii · 04-15-2011, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chukky-jr

why not scale it like bkb? the more you buyback, the longer the cooldown.

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nawe · 04-16-2011, 07:45 AM

I hate to wait 4 minutes to buyback again on mid game
So T-UP

WaruAthena · 04-16-2011, 07:47 AM

Why not just remove Buyback Cooldown entirely.
T-Up.

God of Death · 04-16-2011, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chukky-jr

why not scale it like bkb? the more you buyback, the longer the cooldown.

This!

Captain Planet · 04-16-2011, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by God of Death

This!

That's not an effective way to scale it. And besides, BKB cooldown goes DOWN the more you use it

Captain Planet · 04-19-2011, 11:55 PM

Bump

Fazy · 04-23-2011, 11:15 AM

T-UP. It's pretty reasonable idea and I hope it's gonna improve the flow of game in it's earlier stages.

And everybody forget that crazy idea about BKB style.

Captain Planet · 05-02-2011, 09:57 AM

Thanks for the support, Fazy

Truality · 05-03-2011, 08:50 AM

I'm not sure if I care about early game subsequent buybacks, but since it's fair to scale it on a similar manner to the gold cost, sure, why not.

Straight Flush · 05-03-2011, 11:50 AM

t-up

Arjun_AJ · 06-05-2011, 09:17 AM

Yes, This is a Thing that Should be Implemented..

It's Needed

T-Up

D' Eradicated · 06-05-2011, 09:31 AM

T-Up...

AKBu3nY · 06-05-2011, 11:50 AM

T-up.

doomed2die · 06-06-2011, 06:27 AM

Gold scales why not cooldown? T-UP

Unsure exactly of formula since numbers aren't my thing and some test play would probably have to go into it but I support

D41V30N · 06-06-2011, 08:31 AM

T-up.

04-13-2011, 07:39 AM	#2
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04-13-2011, 09:56 PM	#3
ninguem Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 619	Re: [Mechanics] Scaling Buyback Cooldown I'm not sure this would help much. Few people want to or can buyback multiple times early game. Lategame, the current constant buyback cooldown seems to be doing its job well for now. Anyway, I'm not sure the Suggestions forum is the best place for this. The buyback cooldown is purely a balance issue and Icefrog usually handles this kind of thing by himself.

04-15-2011, 03:16 PM	#5
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04-16-2011, 07:45 AM	#7
nawe Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brasil-SJC Posts: 57	Re: [Mechanics] Scaling Buyback Cooldown I hate to wait 4 minutes to buyback again on mid game So T-UP

04-23-2011, 11:15 AM	#12
Fazy Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Castle of Tornarus Posts: 561	Re: [Mechanics] Scaling Buyback Cooldown T-UP. It's pretty reasonable idea and I hope it's gonna improve the flow of game in it's earlier stages. And everybody forget that crazy idea about BKB style. __________________ Expect the unexpected. I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance.

05-03-2011, 08:50 AM	#14
Truality Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Greece Posts: 518 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Mechanics] Scaling Buyback Cooldown I'm not sure if I care about early game subsequent buybacks, but since it's fair to scale it on a similar manner to the gold cost, sure, why not. __________________ Hero Idea Signature Orc Marauder Looter/Harasser Hero

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06-06-2011, 06:27 AM	#19
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