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Old 04-23-2011, 12:52 PM   #1
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Default [Buff] Chainlightning-like abilitys


Very simple:

Make both of them ground-targetable. (like Furions ultimate)


The reason for this change is, that both have a short CD, and a high jump-count, so it is virtually redundant to always search for a valid target.

In a clash, you will always cast your shadow Wave / Arc lightning, and you will hit at least 3 heroes.

In a push, you will always hit all creeps.


Also it does not matter who got struck first, as the damage does not decrease/increase (like mystic snake) so the whole aiming ppart is totaly redundant (IMO)


This buff would affect:
- Shadow Wave (Dazzle)
- Arc Lightning (Zeus)
- Lightning Storm (Leshrac)



Pros:
- Faster use

Cons:
- none
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Old 04-23-2011, 12:54 PM   #2
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Default Re: [Buff] Shadow Wave & Arc lightning

I was actually thinking about this too sometime i ago, maybe make it like furion sprout tho, so if targeted to trigger linken.
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Old 04-23-2011, 04:10 PM   #3
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Default Re: [Buff] Shadow Wave & Arc lightning

T-Up. Would be a nice addition to these spells.
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Old 04-23-2011, 05:03 PM   #4
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Default Re: [Buff] Shadow Wave & Arc lightning


Nothing to say-comment-add.
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Old 04-23-2011, 05:39 PM   #5
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Default Re: [Buff] Shadow Wave & Arc lightning

t-up.
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Old 04-23-2011, 08:17 PM   #6
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Default Re: [Buff] Shadow Wave & Arc lightning

Then leshrac's lightning storm should be like that aswell.

Also t-up
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Old 04-23-2011, 08:19 PM   #7
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T-up
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Old 04-23-2011, 09:42 PM   #8
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Default Re: [Buff] Shadow Wave & Arc lightning

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Then leshrac's lightning storm should be like that aswell.

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Old 04-23-2011, 10:07 PM   #9
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Default Re: [Buff] Chainlightning-like abilitys

T-Up as well.
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Old 04-23-2011, 11:26 PM   #11
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Default Re: [Buff] Chainlightning-like abilitys

As far as i know, finger of death is based on chain lightning ability, if so, you could miss the spell if you miss click the hero?

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Old 04-23-2011, 11:50 PM   #12
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Default Re: [Buff] Chainlightning-like abilitys

In order to make those things you would need to create a triggered version which would just target ground and search for the closest unit that is a viable target for the spell and is not a an ally of the caster. There isn't a function that will do this altogether. So unless we intend to include Finger of Death and Laguna Blade(both are Chain Lightnings) they will not work like this.
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Old 04-24-2011, 02:02 AM   #13
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Default Re: [Buff] Chainlightning-like abilitys

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T-UP except lightning storm
QQ too much from harassing Leshrac?

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Old 04-24-2011, 03:48 AM   #14
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Default Re: [Buff] Chainlightning-like abilitys

I've never really considered the chain abilities needing this. I'm indifferent to this suggestion. I'll still use them the traditional way, but whatevs, if you think they'd be improved by this then why not?
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Old 04-24-2011, 12:42 PM   #15
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Default Re: [Buff] Chainlightning-like abilitys

T-up!
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Old 04-24-2011, 01:06 PM   #17
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Default Re: [Buff] Chainlightning-like abilitys

Mb you want it to cast by just clicking on icon?
T-DOWN ofc.
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Default Re: [Buff] Chainlightning-like abilitys

Meh,, as far as I'm concerned, Shadow Wave hits all units at the same time, while these other abilities use the .25 second delay, which means only creeps are the ones stupid enough not to get off the way when you cast it on the ground in front.



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Old 04-24-2011, 02:11 PM   #19
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Default Re: [Buff] Chainlightning-like abilitys

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Meh,, as far as I'm concerned, Shadow Wave hits all units at the same time, while these other abilities use the .25 second delay, which means only creeps are the ones stupid enough not to get off the way when you cast it on the ground in front.



T-up.
By groundtargetable I don't mean that it should be like razors static link (you tarteg a point and the thing goes to exactly that point), but like furions ulitmate (yoiu targetthe ground and you instead cast it to the next unit to that point)
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Old 04-24-2011, 02:17 PM   #20
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Default Re: [Buff] Chainlightning-like abilitys

I've been to that old Furion ulti tweak, and to that Autocast Shadow Wave thread, and I know exactly what this thread says.

Hence my comment above.
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