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Old 05-17-2011, 11:51 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Night Stalker [Make him young during night!]


Just a thought I had the other day on this post.
So, what I suggest is that Night Stalker becomes a ladder Dreadlord (one witch looks young; his icon would change too) during night and turns back to old one during the day.
Logic behind this is that suns dries him up, weakens him and makes him looks old, while darkness of night will refresh him again and will bring out his full potential.
All other effects would stay as they are.
This will also make great use of ladder Dreadlord model witch can't be used for another hero model since they would look alike too much.
Also, his HitN icon could get a small change.
During night, it would show passive icon of 'young' Dreadlord and during day it would show icon of 'old' Dreadlord.

Of course, other way around is also possible (that he is 'old' during night and 'young' during day; same reversion would happen with HitN icon).
Logic behind that would be that he is in his calm state during day and takes form of 'young' Dreadlord, but when darkness of the night rules, he becomes a dreadful figure who is everyone afraid of and changes to 'old' Dreadlord.
Thanks to PuЪLiㄷEиəℳy#1 for this idea!

Here are pictures of ladder 'young' Dreadlord for those who don't know what am I talking about:
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:54 AM   #2
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Default Re: Night Stalker [Make him young during night!]

I'll suggest the opposite. After all, Balanar's Hunter in the Night's icon is the ladder Dreadlord during daytime. The "older" Dreadlord is the scarier variety and fits better for the idea of being more feared at night.

Old dreadlord model rocks!
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:54 AM   #3
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I would prefer the other way round, due to the way more epic look of tichondrius' model.

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Old 05-17-2011, 12:02 PM   #4
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they would look alike too much.
No, they don't.
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TUp one way or another, I'd like both. This would be a really cool and pretty logical visual
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Old 05-17-2011, 12:09 PM   #6
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I'll suggest the opposite. After all, Balanar's Hunter in the Night's icon is the ladder Dreadlord during daytime. The "older" Dreadlord is the scarier variety and fits better for the idea of being more feared at night.
Already did it.
No need to create another thread, but I will give credit to you.

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Old dreadlord model rocks!
True.
I've even moded some maps I played most with my friends so that undead have 'old' Dreadlord instead of 'young' one as hero.

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TUp one way or another, I'd like both. This would be a really cool and pretty logical visual
Added that.
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Old 05-17-2011, 12:14 PM   #7
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add some pictures :P
t-Up, very good idea
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Old 05-17-2011, 12:20 PM   #8
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TUp one way or another, I'd like both. This would be a really cool and pretty logical visual
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Old 05-17-2011, 12:22 PM   #9
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This will also make great use of ladder Dreadlord model witch can't be used for another hero model since they would look alike too much.
*cough* Ererdar *cough* Lycan *cough*

T-up. Want to see both models ingame
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Old 05-17-2011, 12:24 PM   #10
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T-Up. Puts more logic into him.
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Old 05-17-2011, 12:33 PM   #11
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add some pictures :P
t-Up, very good idea
Added (hope it helps).

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*cough* Ererdar *cough* Lycan *cough*

T-up. Want to see both models ingame
True, I know.
I thought that it was a good change at first, but now I kinda don't like it for the very reason I wouldn't like a hero with ladder Dreadlord as a hero.
It's simply confusing.
One of them should get new model in my opinion (I would personally prefer Lycan; make him look more like a human).
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Old 05-17-2011, 12:57 PM   #12
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here's a testmap for u fags
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Old 05-17-2011, 01:00 PM   #13
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Old 05-17-2011, 01:25 PM   #14
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Wut is this? T-null.
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Old 05-17-2011, 01:35 PM   #15
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Old 05-17-2011, 03:44 PM   #16
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Default Re: Night Stalker [Make him young during night!]

I wonder if it's codeable to make him change model only when it's night
I would be suggesting this a long time ago if I know how to code it
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Old 05-17-2011, 03:46 PM   #17
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I wonder if it's codeable to make him change model only when it's night
I would be suggesting this a long time ago if I know how to code it
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^ Could you kindly make a testmap?
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Old 05-17-2011, 04:06 PM   #20
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T-Up though need to try it first
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^ Could you kindly make a testmap?
There already is a testmap, made by Doomsheep.
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Old 05-17-2011, 04:18 PM   #22
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Default Re: Night Stalker [Make him young during night!]

He just made a spell that change the model
What I want is a testmap that make him activate the spell at night and deactivate it at day, and with no spell icon, not like in the testmap made by Doomsheep
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Default Re: Night Stalker [Make him young during night!]

I checked the testmap by doomsheep, in which, Balanar turns younger only when he uses his ultimate, day changes to night, model changes.
It's not what the OP meant, which is the automatic model switch when night comes applied to his 3rd skill.
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want more crappy code ?
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Wut is this? T-null.
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He just made a spell that change the model
What I want is a testmap that make him activate the spell at night and deactivate it at day, and with no spell icon, not like in the testmap made by Doomsheep
How do his other skills work?

Still, can it be made like a passive True Form witch will activate during night and deactivate during day?
Icon would be hidden, of course.
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Default Re: Night Stalker [Make him young during night!]

Someone should use the "challenge acepted" image.. but.. who?!
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^I would but got don't have time this week I like playing around with the editor . But next week maybe---
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So what exactly is wrong with my map?
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So what exactly is wrong with my map?
I still have to check it out in order to tell.
There are some reasons why that's a problem for me at the moment, but I will tell you what I think when I do check it out.
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Default Re: Night Stalker [Make him young during night!]

Do exact opposite and it will be very good. Since current model is an improved version of one you suggested.

I ninja edited doomsheep's map.

Here is what it looks like.
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:51 PM   #33
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T-up...

don't forget to change the model in Luna's Ultimate
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Eeeeh, I actually love this Tichondrius model a lot more, he is just so awesome. And I don't feel that model change is appropriate.
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Default Re: Night Stalker [Make him young during night!]

T-up other way around.

@Ez: I never touched the WE but if making a shapeshift spell (0 shift time ofc) that activates at night would work, then it can be coded.
Afaik there's a way to hide icons.
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their faces look quite different :/


it would rather look like one is transforming into another, than one is getting younger/older

and yeah, the old one (Tichondrius model) looks more powerful actually

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This was in DA 4 years ago and counting.
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So what exactly is wrong with my map?
The model doesn't change?
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T-Down. Although a nice idea, alot of the intricate swirly patterns on his wings etc. would disappear during the night time, and would make him look less heroic in effect. S
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