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Old 05-23-2011, 10:34 AM   #1
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Default (Help) How To Play Spectre?


im trying a new hero, spectre i follow a guide and the guide says that at midgame you should be able to kill a lot of enemies... so my tactic is haunt search for a single enemy and i reality to the hero and i hit them (he/she was alone and i did not forget to use dagger) first what i thought was "yeah 50 pure damage eat that sh*t!!!" but then "OMG WTF JUST HAPPEN??" i died, i did that to many enemies and only a few times i succeed... how do you kill with spectre and what are the items? thx
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:49 AM   #2
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1. farm creeps
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:51 AM   #3
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I guess spectre is not supposed to tank, he's supposed to soak damage when he's at it. If you have initiators, go right after they beat up them hard.
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:51 AM   #4
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And the enemy hero that fucked you up killed you was?

what items do you get?if you have only treads then when you ulti and reality it's like you are saying "kill me"

most players go vanguard radiance but i prefer manta and diffusal(i dont care what anyone will say about this build...)
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:53 AM   #5
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farm 30 min
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:54 AM   #6
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Build up a radiance and your fine.
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:54 AM   #7
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And the enemy hero that fucked you up killed you was?

what items do you get?if you have only treads then when you ulti and reality it's like you are saying "kill me"

most players go vanguard radiance but i prefer manta and diffusal(i dont care what anyone will say about this build...)
actually i also go with manta and difuse, but i rarely got the chance to get both at the end, cause i died a lot of times
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:55 AM   #8
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Guides are good, but don't stick to any of them in 100%...
I mean, those guides give you the basics about the specific hero, the skillbuilds, items, tactics, etc., but those highly depends on with who and against who you're playing.

You must not shine at midgame, since Spectre is a lategame hero, so feel free to farm. Use Reality only if you see low hp enemies seperated, or at least that's what I do midgame.
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:56 AM   #9
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Except in most games that HoT comes around 35 mins or so.
Quite literally walk into your opponents base and attack the tower, and watch all your enemies kill themselves.
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:59 AM   #10
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Spectre needs atk speed for her pure dmg not raw dmg....with treads she gets thd atk speed she needs...
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:02 AM   #11
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If you are going the vanguard/radiance build you should try and have radiance before 30 minutes. Diffusal blade is also a nice item for spectre.
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:06 AM   #12
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Spectre needs atk speed for her pure dmg not raw dmg....with treads she gets thd atk speed she needs...

that pure damage usually procs while youre chasing, and therefore phase is considered better nowadays.

i still prefer plain boots-»bot though.
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:14 AM   #13
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actually i also go with manta and difuse, but i rarely got the chance to get both at the end, cause i died a lot of times
1.farm
2.farm
3.farm(farm heroes with low hp)
4.farm
5.buy items
6.profit
if a retarded teammate says "spectre teamplay ffr" or "spectre noob does not farm" while you farm show them THE finger( .!. )
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Old 05-23-2011, 12:04 PM   #14
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Default Re: (Help) How To Play Spectre?

OP, you seem to be lacking basic understanding of the game. You cant expect to win versus a full life/mana Lion at early/midgame. He will throw so many disables on you that you'll end up snoring on your keyboard. I would aim for aquiring basic map awareness and knowledge in individual hero dynamics. This will improve your game perception, timing and judgement so you can use her ulti properly to pick off that afk-farmer at jungles, create confusion, kill low-life ones, etc.

Spec can do well with many builds, although you should probably optimise your build for each game. For example, when fighting against many melee carries/semicarries, a tanky build may prove better than the AOE presence build (radi).
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Old 05-23-2011, 12:52 PM   #15
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Old 05-23-2011, 12:55 PM   #16
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farm satanic, basher, butter, buri and proceed to ggggggg
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Old 05-23-2011, 02:07 PM   #17
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this hero is actually shit tier to me, the only thing that makes you win games with her is because you are way more skilled than them or the enemies are too noob or simply a combination of both
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Old 05-23-2011, 02:16 PM   #18
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this hero is actually shit tier to me, the only thing that makes you win games with her is because you are way more skilled than them or the enemies are too noob or simply a combination of both
Lol, shows how much you know.
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Old 05-23-2011, 02:25 PM   #19
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well, spectre is actually the hardest hero to use for me. the bugged spectral dagger and you simply can't relax when you use her
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Old 05-23-2011, 02:40 PM   #20
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Practice last hitting with her. Her animation is one of the best in the game.

Phase
Vanguard
Diffusal
SnY/Blademail/Heart

Then you proceed to hopscotch into the enemy team and watch as they start killing themselves.
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Old 05-23-2011, 02:42 PM   #21
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well, spectre is actually the hardest hero to use for me. the bugged spectral dagger and you simply can't relax when you use her
I too can't seem to use dagger properly, lots of people in games get pretty pissed when they mess it up too, hopefully it will be fixed or something eventually.

But is that really enough to call spectre shit tier? lol
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well, spectre is actually the hardest hero to use for me. the bugged spectral dagger and you simply can't relax when you use her
The best hardcore(if farms then gg) carry with sniper....THATS why you cant relax with spectre
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PB/PT, PMS, VG, Radiance, Diffusal, Manta, HoT
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PB/PT, PMS, VG, Radiance, Diffusal, Manta, HoT

Pms and vg block dMg does not stack....
so or pms or vg
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well, spectre is actually the hardest hero to use for me. the bugged spectral dagger and you simply can't relax when you use her
Lasthits, casting ulti, counting for ulti to be almost over, teleporting casting dagger and shift right click enemy heroes... 2/3 of heroes are more complicated.

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Pms and vg block dMg does not stack....
so or pms or vg
You get pms for laning protection against harrasment, and vanguard for hp + regen. There's nothing wrong with this, altho I'm not a fan of that option.
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:15 PM   #26
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Its really quite a breeze in many games.

1 - Play in a trilane against a solo.
2 - Watch your ally supports try and rape the opposing solo
3 - Farm 5-8 creeps a minute until trilane breaks or solo mid comes to gank.
4 - Once you hit 6, be on the lookout for kills using haunt + dagger
5 - Carry a TP scroll and keep farming
6 - Pick up Phase/treads + VG + Radi before 25 min
7 - ????
8 - Profit

If you get vangradi too late (~35 min) it normally means your opponents are at your base, and you will probably lose unless you have some imba wtf turtler guy (whether defensive of ofensive).
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:20 PM   #27
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There was a thread some time ago about how unbeatable a Spectre was with just Phase Boots, Vanguard & Radiance. It's true. After that you can get any luxury.
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spectre needs radiance and vanguard, because of his Dispersion, who makes him imba on late game (dilemma: focusing on u? they are affected by your dispersion; avoid to attack u? they are burned by radiance) that's why people always make a heart of tarrasque after those items, instead of making a butterfly.
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Old 05-23-2011, 08:43 PM   #29
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spectre its the essence of mortred, wich its a women so u must farm and getting the cs into the most conveniable place in dota, the kitchen, and the most beautifull thing that the character represent an ex-girlfriend its annoying and it haunt u to the end. so if ur a women and ur an ex-girlfriend u allready know what it take to play spectre or if ur a men imic ur gf and go to the kitchen and farm for a sandwitch
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spectre its the essence of mortred, wich its a women so u must farm and getting the cs into the most conveniable place in dota, the kitchen, and the most beautifull thing that the character represent an ex-girlfriend its annoying and it haunt u to the end. so if ur a women and ur an ex-girlfriend u allready know what it take to play spectre or if ur a men imic ur gf and go to the kitchen and farm for a sandwitch

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I think there's something called guides. I THINK. I'm not entirely sure.
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don't bother looking at Cp6uja's guide on Spectre, it's made of fail
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MORTRED >> Sniper

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Pms and vg block dMg does not stack....
so or pms or vg
Go and fucking l2mech before face palming people you fool.
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MORTRED >> Sniper

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Until super late game. PA will lose to Sniper if we say dream builds.
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spectre its the essence of mortred, wich its a women so u must farm and getting the cs into the most conveniable place in dota, the kitchen, and the most beautifull thing that the character represent an ex-girlfriend its annoying and it haunt u to the end. so if ur a women and ur an ex-girlfriend u allready know what it take to play spectre or if ur a men imic ur gf and go to the kitchen and farm for a sandwitch
Try this strategy, OP
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