Falcon Ring

kanzakill · 05-31-2011, 12:49 PM

Falcon Ring

Recipe:

	+		+		=
1400	+	175	+	175	=	1750

Description:
Because of this ring's sharpness, people often turn away from it.

Before:	After:
+21 damage	Deals 23 bonus pure damage
+4 armor	+4 armor
.	Falcon Punch (passive)

Falcon Punch:
34% to turn attacked unit 180 degrees

Quote:

The widely accepted average turn rate is 0.5, which means that hero can turn 0.5 radian (28.65 degrees) per 0.03 second.
=>

Angle:	Time:
28.65	0.03
180	x

We can easily see that x = (180*0.03)/28.65 = 0.18848 ~ 0.19 second

Alternative solution: (thanks to BenSkysong)

Quote:

Affected units have their turn rates reduced to 0.4 for 1.25 seconds.
Units cannot be affected by Falcon Punch again within 1.25 seconds after they have been affected by Falcon Punch.

One.More.Game. · 05-31-2011, 01:02 PM

also, a nice addition would be to reduce turn rate, just to make the enemy have a hard time facing you.

O_xD · 05-31-2011, 01:12 PM

^Yep, reduce the turn rate, to a lil bit more than the sunray turn rate

T-up, makes me think of walrus punch

Nicolback · 05-31-2011, 02:04 PM

I smiled after seeing the Falcon Punch passive.

Yep, reduce turn rate like others said and it'll be good.

Straight Flush · 05-31-2011, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [_PH03N1X_]

also, a nice addition would be to reduce turn rate, just to make the enemy have a hard time facing you.

+1

OT: This is pretty cool IMO. T-Up

Drikam · 05-31-2011, 02:35 PM

34% is hell a high chance.

Fate Trap · 05-31-2011, 03:45 PM

Concept = Awesome. More annoying than O_xD.

justsightseeing · 05-31-2011, 04:00 PM

maybe i got influenced by others, but i like it.. and yes, decrease the turn rate also (still thematic, u falcon punch, enemy gotta turn a bit and become harder to turn again)
T_UP

AKBu3nY · 05-31-2011, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Col. Cav

I smiled after seeing the Falcon Punch passive.

Yep, reduce turn rate like others said and it'll be good.

Exactly this. I lol'd after I saw the name. ^^

T-up. But is this a melee only item? Would be weird seeing range heroes punching their targets.^^

kanzakill · 06-01-2011, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [_PH03N1X_]

also, a nice addition would be to reduce turn rate

No, that shouldn't be done. Check this.
With the current suggestion, it already takes most heroes 0.16-0.24 second to turn 180 degrees and continue what they were doing before getting turned by Falcon Punch.
Even though I'm not good at balancing, I can clearly see that it will be imbalanced if the turn rate is reduced, because:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drikam

34% is hell a high chance.

Quote:

make the enemy have a hard time facing you.

It's already hard enough.

Thanks though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKBu3nY

But is this a melee only item? Would be weird seeing range heroes punching their targets.^^

I haven't though about that. But whatever, DotA itself is a weird game.

Straight Flush · 09-15-2011, 08:23 AM

bamp

Inreet · 09-15-2011, 05:03 PM

T-Up. Very nice and interesting concept. But what will happen if target isn't facing to you. E.g he runs away form you you'll face him to you?

afro.samurai10 · 09-21-2011, 10:38 AM

T-UP!

But Kindly change the name. Falcons cannot punch since they have no fists... Change it to Falcon Wing Slap haha or something that relates to a falcon

O_xD · 09-21-2011, 10:51 AM

^captain falcon?

D' Eradicated · 09-21-2011, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afro.samurai10

T-UP!

But Kindly change the name. Falcons cannot punch since they have no fists... Change it to Falcon Wing Slap haha or something that relates to a falcon

Oh, you poor thing...

ImboredxD · 09-22-2011, 02:45 AM

Indirect buff to riki? T-Up

afro.samurai10 · 09-22-2011, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D' Eradicated

Oh, you poor thing...

are you spamming? your reply does not make any sense. Anyway it's up to the moderator to check it

BenSkysong · 09-22-2011, 07:50 AM

how about a chance(%) to slow the target down (includes turn rate) to a factor of 3 for (x) seconds? just like medusa's stone gaze.

To balance it, target cannot be affected by Falcon punch again within 1 or 1.25 seconds after it has been affected by Falcon Punch.

DrQwertySilence · 09-23-2011, 03:28 AM

What about of put a Wraith Band in the recipe and keep only one Ring of Protection (Because Wraith Band need more love and fit whit Rikimaru <3):

Falcon Ring

Recipe:

	+		+		=
1400	+	485	+	175	=	2060

Description:
Because of this ring's sharpness, people often turn away from it.

Before:	After:
+24 damage	Deals 24 bonus pure damage
+2 armor	+2 armor
+6 agility	+6 agility
+3 Strength	+3 Strength
+3 Intelligence	+3 Intelligence
.	Falcon Punch (passive)

Falcon Punch:
34% to turn attacked unit 180 degrees. (This need a nerf, what about 25/30%?)

DrQwertySilence · 09-23-2011, 03:32 AM

Double post.

05-31-2011, 01:02 PM	#2
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