[Fix] Venomancer model (teamcolor feedback pls)

Infrisios · 05-31-2011, 01:09 PM

...yes model, you heard me right.

I want to hear your opinions about reimporting a fixed Hydralisk model for Venomancer.

Screenshots have not been updated with teamcolor, with the exception of the teamcolor screenshot (duh!)
Please give feedback on what teamcolor you prefer, or if you have ideas on how to give him better teamcolor say so.

Current Venomancer model is somewhat broken:

-The current model has no collision shapes, making it difficult to click
-The "head" attachment point is called "heaf", so it can't be used. Any effect attached to the head (not many atm, f/ex Sven's Warcry is one of them) do not work at all.
-The current model has no team color

The con is, of course, MSI. But I managed to compress it a lot, so it gets down to 17 kb. That's a bit LESS than 2 icons with BTN+DISBTN, so it should not really be a problem.

So here are the advantages one-by-one:

Clickability:

Right now, Venomancer can only be clicked if you directly hit a solid part of the model (Geoset). With a collision sphere, he can be clicked both on the solid parts and anywhere where he got the collision sphere.
Here's what the collision sphere looks like:

(the blue wireframe)

Due to the movement of his upper body, a sphere with this size and position seemed most fitting to me.

Here's an in-game example of the advantages, with the left model being the original venomancer and the right one being the new one.

As you can easily see, the left one can be selected with that cursor position while the right one can't.

Team color:

Update: New teamcolor, other screenshots not updated.

Current Venomancer got no Team Color. Not too much of an issue, but Team Color can be quite useful in many cases. I tried to keep MSI small, so I used a somewhat way with somewhat limited options to give him team color. I can make it stronger or give him a real glow, but anything more sophisticated would require a texture reimport.

Previous teamcolor:

Head attachment point:

As I already said, the current model has a broken head attachment point.
In the suggested model, this attachment point is fixed.
Examples for head attachments are Chaos Meteor's fire (Invoker) and Return damage (Centaur), but take into consideration that that's about it. There are really not many attachments requiring a head attachment point.

Here is a random FX attached to the head so you can see where it is:

I put it in visuals because 2 changes (attachment point and team color) are visual changes. Also I like the visuals subforum more

Also got a testmap where you can see the changes for yourself.

The Godplayer · 05-31-2011, 01:12 PM

its more like a fix isn't it???
i remember there was a page on collision shapes somewhere...but w/e t-up!!!

Relliknuf · 05-31-2011, 01:16 PM

T-up

Go work on Panda agha nao!

Infrisios · 05-31-2011, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Godplayer

its more like a fix isn't it???
i remember there was a page on collision shapes somewhere...but w/e t-up!!!

I linked that once and it is in my signature

dtnmang · 05-31-2011, 01:23 PM

T-up!
And lol @ "heaf"

Infrisios · 05-31-2011, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtnmang

T-up!
And lol @ "heaf"

Yeah, blizzard pretty sloppy D:

ddisdota · 05-31-2011, 01:28 PM

A aganims effect would be nice but this to is nice

T-UP

D' Eradicated · 05-31-2011, 01:30 PM

Fix..? Instant T-Up...

Mr. Burns · 05-31-2011, 01:31 PM

Looks cool! T-up

Flame13 · 05-31-2011, 01:34 PM

Great idea

T-up...

PS:Could you do something with Bane Elemental too? I mean he is unclickable XD

One.More.Game. · 05-31-2011, 01:35 PM

T-up, liking the team color.

heaf FTW!

Fate Trap · 05-31-2011, 01:35 PM

Thumbs up.

SuperSheep · 05-31-2011, 01:39 PM

T-Up!

Veno deserves a regular heaf just like everyone else!

AKBu3nY · 05-31-2011, 01:50 PM

T-up² ofcourse. His model needs this fix and also causes very small MSI. T-up

Infrisios good job as always

Infrisios · 05-31-2011, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flame13

Great idea

T-up...

PS:Could you do something with Bane Elemental too? I mean he is unclickable XD

Bane has good collision shapes, he just got a weird body and sometimes moves out of his spheres. I'll only fix extreme cases.

doomsheep · 05-31-2011, 02:13 PM

of course we want it fixed <.<

dresmasher · 05-31-2011, 02:31 PM

T-up
even though this is a bit of a nerf for Venomancer, it is a necessary fix
D-|

greendarin · 05-31-2011, 02:40 PM

cool T-up

CicatrixZ · 05-31-2011, 02:43 PM

T-up for all of this =)

Monsterlord · 05-31-2011, 02:44 PM

Obviously this is getting implemented.

Can you change the colour to a proper hero glow though? Your versions are pretty feeble for the Scourge colours tbh, you can't see them.

And I kinda like that head effect for his aghs >_>

05-31-2011, 01:12 PM	#2
The Godplayer Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: 404: Not Found. Posts: 1,248	Re: [Model] Venomancer its more like a fix isn't it??? i remember there was a page on collision shapes somewhere...but w/e t-up!!!

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Relliknuf Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 64	Re: [Model] Venomancer T-up Go work on Panda agha nao!

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dtnmang Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: dunno Posts: 890 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [Fix] Venomancer model T-up! And lol @ "heaf"

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ddisdota Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 135	Re: [Fix] Venomancer model A aganims effect would be nice but this to is nice T-UP

05-31-2011, 01:31 PM	#9
Mr. Burns Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: In my mansion Posts: 5,050	Re: [Fix] Venomancer model Looks cool! T-up __________________ [filing out medical forms] Mr. Burns: Social security number? Naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, naught, 2. Damn Roosevelt. Cause of parents death? Got in my way. Mr. Burns: I could crush him like an ant, but it would be too easy. No, revenge is a dish best served cold. I'll bide my time until... oh, what the hell, I'll just crush him like an ant.

05-31-2011, 01:34 PM	#10
Flame13 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Eternal flames of damnation Posts: 2,429	Re: [Fix] Venomancer model Great idea T-up... PS:Could you do something with Bane Elemental too? I mean he is unclickable XD __________________ Gallery of heroes

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05-31-2011, 01:39 PM	#13
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05-31-2011, 02:31 PM	#17
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05-31-2011, 02:40 PM	#18
greendarin Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36	Re: [Fix] Venomancer model cool T-up

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CicatrixZ Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 223	Re: [Fix] Venomancer model T-up for all of this =) __________________

05-31-2011, 02:44 PM	#20
Monsterlord Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,837	Re: [Fix] Venomancer model Obviously this is getting implemented. Can you change the colour to a proper hero glow though? Your versions are pretty feeble for the Scourge colours tbh, you can't see them. And I kinda like that head effect for his aghs >_>