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Old 06-01-2011, 12:34 PM   #1
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Default [BASIC] Pickeaxe


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Pickaxe

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A regular mining tool that can also be used as a weapon. Packs quite a punch.

Pickaxe (1300)
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18 Damage
20% Mini-Stun (0.1 sec.)
Following the tendency of breaking down expensive effects into smaller and weaker components (Orb of Venom, Talisman of Evasion, Javelin), I propose to you this weaker version of the MKB, with one of its features: the Mini-stun.

This item could be used as a component for MKB and Basher, and obviously as a stand-alone item; ideal for those chasers that have no reliable disable to avoid enemies from TPing away (Spectre, N'aix, etc.).

THERE IS NO BONUS DAMAGE. That's Javelin's work. Also, the ministun is kept at minimal, since the main function is to stop channeling. Also, stats are obviously lower than Basher/MKB.
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:59 PM   #2
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Default Re: [BASIC] Pickeaxe

This is where I come to play...



Pickaxe

1200

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A regular mining tool that can also be used as a weapon. Packs quite a punch.

Pickaxe (1200)
Stats
18 Damage
20% Mini-Stun (0.1 sec.)
Following the tendency of breaking down expensive effects into smaller and weaker components (Orb of Venom, Talisman of Evasion, Javelin), I propose to you this weaker version of the MKB, with one of its feature: the Mini-stun.

This item could be used as a component for MKB and Basher, and obviously as a stand-alone item; ideal for those chasers that have no reliable disable to avoid enemies from TPing away (Spectre, N'aix, etc.).

THERE IS NO BONUS DAMAGE. That's Javelin's work. Also, the ministun is kept at minimal, since the main function is to stop channeling. Also, stats are obviously lower than Basher/MKB.
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A regular mining tool that can also be used as a weapon. Packs quite a punch.[/center]

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[IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/site/addinfo.jpg[/IMG][indent][color="white"]Following the tendency of breaking down expensive effects into smaller and weaker components (Orb of Venom, Talisman of Evasion, Javelin), I propose to you this weaker version of the MKB, with one of its feature: the Mini-stun.

This item could be used as a component for MKB and Basher, and obviously as a stand-alone item; ideal for those chasers that have no reliable disable to avoid enemies from TPing away (Spectre, N'aix, etc.).

THERE IS NO BONUS DAMAGE. That's Javelin's work. Also, the ministun is kept at minimal, since the main function is to stop channeling. Also, stats are obviously lower than Basher/MKB.[/color][/indent][/nqb]
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:09 PM   #3
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Default Re: [BASIC] Pickeaxe

Much obliged. I couldn't be bothered to search for the code given the size of the suggestion.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:13 PM   #4
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Default Re: [BASIC] Pickeaxe

Though it looks better in a template...

@Pickaxe: T-Up... There's a OoV for Skadi... Why not for Basher/MKB..? The only thing we need now is...
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:16 PM   #5
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Indeed, it does look better; no doubt about that.

Well, at least we can do with Medallion of Courage until that Orb shows up.
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:25 PM   #6
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Default Re: [BASIC] Pickeaxe

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Following the tendency of breaking down expensive effects into smaller and weaker components (Orb of Venom, Talisman of Evasion, Javelin)
I find that to be true, but one thing i do not like is that these kind of components are only used in one recipe most of the time. if your going to suggest this item, changing some of the current recipe to have this item in it should go into this as one suggestion.

also, I am not sure about getting a mini-stun so early/cheap is a good idea.
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Old 06-02-2011, 06:20 PM   #7
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Default Re: [BASIC] Pickeaxe

I agree with your first part. It's clear that anyone buying the Talisman of Evasion is going to upgrade it to a Butterfly, and no one buys a Standalone talisman.

In part, that is something I tried to adress with my suggestion. Not only giving it two possible upgrades, but also giving it some usability as a basic item. Even though it's only logical to expect people buying this to eventually upgrade it to Basher/MKB, heroes only looking for a way to prevent pesky enemies from channeling a spell/a TP scroll can buy this as a core, proceed with other important items, and then upgrade to Basher/MKB as a luxury component.

Remember that this balances itself, on the sense that it requires attack speed in order to work (the chance is lower than MKB, and could be very well reduced even more, to 15% or 12%), so a hero getting it too early might suffer from his low attack speed.

However, I increased the recipe cost a little.

Thank you for your insightful comment.
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Old 06-02-2011, 06:23 PM   #8
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Default Re: [BASIC] Pickeaxe

its a nice idea but it would make the game to easy for some heroes...
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Old 06-03-2011, 04:27 PM   #9
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It's clearly going to give advantage to some heroes, but I doubt it would be to the point of being game-breaking. As I've said, the chance is low and can be further lowered, plus a hero with low attackspeed will not be able to make the most of it.
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Old 06-04-2011, 08:07 AM   #10
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Default Re: [BASIC] Pickeaxe

You should also suggest Diamond Pickaxe, Gold Pickaxe, Iron Pickaxe, Stone Pickaxe, Wood pickaxe, and of course some Diamond sword, Gold sword, Iron sword, Stone sword, Wood sword.
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:53 PM   #11
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^Way to go, you need +1 post much? Troll harder next time. 1/10.

OT: Like the concept, as for the numbers make it low on percentage since it can/will distrup channeling. T-up.
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Old 06-08-2011, 09:33 PM   #12
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this is gonna really fuck up people like Bane and SK. It's kind of an anti BKB for all channelers which for the most part are already pretty weak... unneeded nerf T-Down.
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:57 AM   #13
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first where you want to put it?that shop is full now.
+channeling heroes will shine at early mid game but with this item channel spell:wasting mana and time and cooldown.
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Uhmm... Am I the only one thinking about DotA 2..? DotA 2 is near and that will be not a problem...
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:24 PM   #15
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Uhmm... Am I the only one thinking about DotA 2..? DotA 2 is near and that will be not a problem...
Yes near but we must play 1 now.what we should do when we don't have shops now?
answer:i suggest new shops,link is in my sig.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:32 PM   #16
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Actually I had an idea for shops but I heard the coding of it is very iffy basically put multiple shops in one shop each on a seperate page. The bottom row displays two arrows that allows you to toggle between shops and the middle bottom shows "Page" and Page "#". the items are listed in the rest of the boxes,

basically 8 items maximum per page. If it can be coded with no problem I will suggest it but otherwise
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meh its good
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You should also suggest Diamond Pickaxe, Gold Pickaxe, Iron Pickaxe, Stone Pickaxe, Wood pickaxe, and of course some Diamond sword, Gold sword, Iron sword, Stone sword, Wood sword.
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Old 06-10-2011, 04:33 PM   #20
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this is gonna really fuck up people like Bane and SK. It's kind of an anti BKB for all channelers which for the most part are already pretty weak... unneeded nerf T-Down.
Yes, just like Basher, MKB and every other stun-inducing skill in the game already does.

Stop thinking that just because something has the power to counter another thing, it will always happen that way. The chance of proc' is low and heroes getting it early are bound to have low attack speed. It's not like we are not going to see another channeling spell again.

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first where you want to put it?that shop is full now
Are you seriously judging the suggestion based on which shop it will be? Leave that to IceFrog, he'll take care of that, don't worry.

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+channeling heroes will shine at early mid game but with this item channel spell:wasting mana and time and cooldown.
T-DOWN
You talk like this item inventend the concept of "interrupting channeling". Newsflash: 80% of the skills in the game do that, not to mention several items.

Also, remember that this is not a 100% effective way of stopping it: you have to hit and proc', and early game the AS is bound to be low, thus making it harder.

And lastly, channeling, like everything else, ought to have a counter too.


All this item does is to provide a coherent and sensible break-down component to high-level items, providing some heroes with a helpful mini-stun in the way.


Thank you very much for your comments.
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