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Old 06-19-2011, 11:22 PM   #1
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Default [Tweak] OD ult goes through AI


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With the addition of Eredar, whose spells also work on disrupted units, I think it would only be fair to let Obsidian destroyer use his ultimate on Astral Imprisoned units.

Often times when engaging in a battle, you want to AI someone for gaining int and then using your ultimate. But you then have to wait 4 seconds for the target to come out of AI, or else your ult won't hit him.

Now you can either miss out on the damage for the imprisoned unit, or you face the risk of being focused down and not casting your ult at all.


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Disruption works much like AI: It pauses the unit, makes it invulnerable and hidden. The point is, triggers remove the invulnerability from disrupted units for dealing damage of demonic purge and shadow poison.
It wouldn't be a problem to do the same for AI.


Therefore I suggest that Sanity's Eclipse specifically deals it's damage to units in Astral Imprisonment in the AoE.

Edit (08/11/11): Since many people supported the idea of also letting it damage creeps, tell us your opinion about it! We'll let Icefrog decide this, based on your support.
Following ideas were proposed:
  • Damage creeps as well!
  • Only damage creeps with aghanim (on OD, not the creeps ).
  • Don't let it damage creeps at all.
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:24 PM   #2
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Default Re: [Tweak] OD ult goes through AI

A tiny buff wouldn't hurt him.
T-up
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:29 PM   #3
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Default Re: [Tweak] OD ult goes through AI

I'm not sure if hidden units can be damaged, but it's fully possible to make the spell damage prisoned units after they leave the prison.
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:53 AM   #4
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I likes...t-up.
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Old 06-20-2011, 04:18 AM   #5
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T-up also make Sanity eclipse damage creeps.. I mean what's the point?? they are dumb!
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Old 06-20-2011, 05:23 AM   #6
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T-up! This is needed
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Old 06-20-2011, 05:45 AM   #7
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T-up also make Sanity eclipse damage creeps.. I mean what's the point?? they are dumb!
This. Creep damage will just be your int times the stated multiplier (w/ or w/o agha).
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:52 AM   #8
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so sanity's eclipse is the new push stopper? o O
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:54 AM   #9
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so sanity's eclipse is the new push stopper? o O
No. Because making it deal damage to creeps is quite insignificant.. the 160sec CD isn't an ideal tool to stop pushes..
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:08 PM   #10
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Damage to AI'd units -> T-Up.

Damage to creeps -> Add to ASU.
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:12 PM   #11
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I like this. While it would change his playstyle, it would only do so in a very minor way and it's nothing negative. T-up!!
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:43 PM   #12
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T-up.

OD is almost useless anyway,some buffs wont hurt him.
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:50 PM   #13
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T-Up... 4 sec. = 1 light year for Obsidian...
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Old 06-20-2011, 01:43 PM   #14
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T-Up but 1 Thing is for sure? Sanity Eclipse is the only skill WILL hit AI-ed unit. Not any other AoE skill?
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Old 06-20-2011, 01:52 PM   #15
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Default Re: [Tweak] OD ult goes through AI

There's no problem with damaging the hidden unit as long as it is coded specifically for that.

Disruption works much like AI: It pauses the unit, makes it invulnerable and hidden. The point is, triggers remove the invulnerability from disrupted units for dealing damage of demonic purge and eredar's other skill.
It wouldn't be a problem to do the same for AI.
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Old 06-20-2011, 01:55 PM   #16
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T-up on AI and on creeps too.
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Old 06-20-2011, 01:59 PM   #17
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Default Re: [Tweak] OD ult goes through AI

^don't trust mech fag too much. When I once saw a mech fag said Ghost Form can helps to escape from Overgrowth and Ensare, I was like But when I try it, it was like Liar.
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:02 PM   #18
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No. Because making it deal damage to creeps is quite insignificant.. the 160sec CD isn't an ideal tool to stop pushes..
I'm just kidding around
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Old 06-20-2011, 04:42 PM   #19
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T-up for both (AI and creeps).
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:58 PM   #20
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^don't trust mech fag too much. When I once saw a mech fag said Ghost Form can helps to escape from Overgrowth and Ensare, I was like But when I try it, it was like Liar.
You can escape Esnare with it. You have to use it after you got esnared. (Don't know about overgrowth though).


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