Developer's Blog
Register Low Fi Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-20-2009, 10:41 PM   #1
Hero Hunter
Member
 
Hero Hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 981
Hero Hunter is offline

Default [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin


Old Starting Range = 140

New Starting Range = 300


Quote:
Old Skill


Psi Blades

Using her psionic powers, the Templar causes enemy units behind her target to feel the same pain as the target itself. This psionic power extends her attack range.

Level 1 - 40 Bonus Range, 320 Spill Range.
Level 2 - 100 Bonus Range, 340 Spill Range.
Level 3 - 160 Bonus Range, 360 Spill Range.
Level 4 - 220 Bonus Range, 380 Spill Range.

Passive
Old Final Range = 360


Quote:
New Skill


Psi Improvement

Using her psionic powers, the Templar has unobstructed vision in a small AoE. In addition, the psionic power causes enemy units behind her target to feel the same pain as the target itself.

Level 1 - 100 AoE. 80 Spill Range.
Level 2 - 200 AoE. 160 Spill Range.
Level 3 - 300 AoE. 240 Spill Range.
Level 4 - 400 AoE. 320 Spill Range.

Passive
Returned the old Spill Range progression (before 6.60).

I think reducing Meld's armor reduction to -2/3.5/5/6.5 would be fine for balance.
  Reply With Quote
Last edited by Hero Hunter; 08-21-2010 at 02:09 AM.
Old 09-20-2009, 11:00 PM   #2
Djow
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 5
Djow is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

This will be great! t-up
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 12:17 AM   #3
leomon235
Member
 
leomon235's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,203
leomon235 is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

T-Down.

This will make the hero alot easier to play with, and could possibly make Lanaya a little overpowered.

Lanaya will still be a single-target killer. Buffing her range makes her even more deadly. Now she doesn't have to risk herself getting closer to do her Meld combo.
__________________
Show off your skills to the forums!
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 12:47 AM   #4
Hero Hunter
Member
 
Hero Hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 981
Hero Hunter is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

If 330 is too high, it can be reduced to 300 or so. But remember: Meld + Refraction combo doesn't make Templar good enough to be a good pick.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 12:51 AM   #5
Bombay
Member
 
Bombay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 33
Bombay is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero Hunter View Post
If 330 is too high, it can be reduced to 300 or so. But remember: Meld + Refraction combo doesn't make Templar good enough to be a good pick.
GosuGamers DotA | Replay: Cybertime vs Trust

and this is BEFORE she got buffed in 63.

wtf are you saying about not a good pick?

also bad suggestion psy blades is just great right now
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 12:57 AM   #6
Hero Hunter
Member
 
Hero Hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 981
Hero Hunter is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

Ok, you can have one or two replays but she is worse as a carrier than Morphling, Mirana, Viper, Nevermore... And she is a very risk pick too.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 01:05 AM   #7
Bombay
Member
 
Bombay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 33
Bombay is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero Hunter View Post
Ok, you can have one or two replays but she is worse as a carrier than Morphling, Mirana, Viper, Nevermore... And she is a very risk pick too.
she just isn't discovered yet, but the replay at least shows how amazing she is (you should really watch it it's fucking awesome). And she isn't supposed to be played the same or with the same heroes as your examples so shouldn't be compared to them.

there's few heroes like her that offer a 'different' style of play and shouldn't be buffed to the point where we see her all the time. keep it as something special once in a while

Point is she's good, and has amazing potential if played in the right conditions. but like you said she's risky because execution has to be near perfect. The reason I don't support your suggestion though is cause I enjoy seeing these 'special' heroes coming out here and there and making a show. Lanaya is one of these heroes and is plenty strong for how she is supposed to be played atm.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 02:34 AM   #8
Neptulon
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 9
Neptulon is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

This ability reflects the supernatural perception of a psionic being
I liked it
T-Up
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 09:28 AM   #9
Hero Hunter
Member
 
Hero Hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 981
Hero Hunter is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

Thanks for the comment.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 10:14 AM   #10
Moja
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 684
Moja is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

Replay is excellent. The problem with lanaya isn't really her range. It's refraction. A single DOT hero or radiance = paper lanaya. She's the most absurdly simple carry to counter; for this replay, they didn't even bother.

Really, Puck won the game. Most of Lanaya's kills came after the game was already over.

I notice she's only picked in competitive games in conjunction with CM. Mana issues... :|
  Reply With Quote
Last edited by Moja; 09-21-2009 at 10:56 AM.
Old 09-21-2009, 04:08 PM   #11
Hero Hunter
Member
 
Hero Hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 981
Hero Hunter is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

She isn't that paper anymore with her increased strength (6.63), she is supposed to gank and this suggestion would improve her ganking potential.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 08:47 PM   #12
Moja
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 684
Moja is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

The str increase is nice, but she's still paper. At level 16 you have 5 more strength, which is 95 more hp. Whoopee .

I'm all for increasing her initial range, but the spill is actually very nice for harassment against melee heroes.

Null vote.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2009, 03:21 PM   #13
Hero Hunter
Member
 
Hero Hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 981
Hero Hunter is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

Melee heroes won't be a problem with her new range.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2009, 03:26 PM   #14
Sgt Failure
Member
 
Sgt Failure's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,717
Sgt Failure is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

I dont really know about this skill, but perhaps change refraction, to make any single spell/item only burn one charge per second? Idk, but this change is T-down. Her skill is great, the only thing that should be fixed it that she can use melee items, like full QB or PMS.
__________________

  Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 06:25 AM   #15
windrunner023
Member
 
windrunner023's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: United States, MN
Posts: 267
windrunner023 is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

Wrong skill to change, most people would agree that Refraction needs to be altered instead. I think Psi Blades is perfectly fine the way it is and requires a good amount of skill to use wisely, which is why TA exists.
  Reply With Quote
Last edited by windrunner023; 12-28-2009 at 06:27 AM.
Old 12-28-2009, 10:50 AM   #16
NoThlnG
Forum Staff
 
NoThlnG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Nowhere
Posts: 14,371
Blog Entries: 8
Send a message via MSN to NoThlnG Send a message via Skype™ to NoThlnG
NoThlnG is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

Quote:
Originally Posted by windrunner023 View Post
Wrong skill to change, most people would agree that Refraction needs to be altered instead. I think Psi Blades is perfectly fine the way it is and requires a good amount of skill to use wisely, which is why TA exists.
LOL??? Refraction is one of the best skill in the DotA. 80 bonus damage isn't a joke and neglect 5 damages is great though situational. Refraction is great skill for mind games which is necessary for DotA. TA exist because of Refraction not because of Psi Blades
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 11:11 AM   #17
xy4kuz4x
Member
 
xy4kuz4x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: I live in my house
Posts: 1,760
Blog Entries: 1
xy4kuz4x is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

Lol to people who said refraction needs remake. I think psi blade is fine enough.
__________________

  Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 04:16 PM   #18
windrunner023
Member
 
windrunner023's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: United States, MN
Posts: 267
windrunner023 is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

Almost every team nowadays has DoT, TA can't keep up with Refract.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2010, 06:46 PM   #19
n3cr0_fear
Member
 
n3cr0_fear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Athens, Greece
Posts: 91
Send a message via MSN to n3cr0_fear
n3cr0_fear is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

T-up definitely
__________________
People are mean
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2010, 10:01 PM   #20
kyokunchan
Member
 
kyokunchan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 90
kyokunchan is offline
Default Re: [Tweak] Lanaya, the Templar Assassin

Dont like her anyway, just not my playing style. Good idea anyway.
__________________
Clan DtH
Razor Nurf? Don't even wont to play him.
  Reply With Quote
Reply
  Defense of the Ancients Suggestions Remakes


Forum Jump

Thread Tools