Xedos Item's pack

Xedos · 07-16-2011, 07:32 PM

Mystical Claw

Soul Scepter

Mark Of Immortal

Anyway sorry, for my lame english. : P

sunnymarcell · 07-16-2011, 11:21 PM

1. what do you think why slark lost his permanent attribute stealing from essence shift?
also since every effect from the basic items are highened, it would be a worthy item to buy even without the passive. is the lifesteal orb effect or not?
2. simple magic wand upgrade, very nice idea.
3. i dont really understand the active part :\ also loled on 666 recipe price

twoeyedyum · 07-17-2011, 12:13 AM

Bloodseeker Claw.
1) Too powerful for it's price. Recipe gives +6 DMG, +11% IAS and +8% LS. AND uber passive. Seriously, recipe cost is too small.
2) What sunnymarcell said, T-Down on stat stealing or gain per kill. Pudge would rule the world with this.
3) I like charges from allied deaths. Honestly, i'd remove stat gain and left only this. Nice idea, and quite balanced. If you survive 5v5 clash, and all died except you, you get +60 damage until your death, which is ok.
Suggestion: remove stat gain, increase recipe cost to 4000 or even 4500. It would fit insane lifesteal

Soul Scepter
Nice concept. But think about numbers!
For mere 2100 gold you get chargeable Dagon, which deals max of 500 damage to enemy, removing also 250 mana. Or you can heal ally's mana and hp by 500. No manacost for use, no cooldown. Overpowered like hell.

Magic damage increase with prereq. of 6 charges is OK.
Suggestion: let each charge replenish 20 hp/mana to allies and remove 15 hp/mana from enemy. And even then recipe cost might be raised to 1000 gold.

Mark Of Immortal
If only target hero becomes "immortal", then it's OK. Must have really visible effect for enemy to know, which hero is "caster", and which is "immortal".
Suggestion: mention visible effect, add some manacost (70-100)

T-Up on 2nd and 3rd items, if you make them better. But i somewhat doubt overall usefullnes of Claws, so T-Null for now.

kEi_nguyen · 07-17-2011, 05:17 AM

666 rofl........like "the hell is back"
i love your set item.....but 1st still im3 a lot.......i don't know how to fix but still love it....
T-Up all

Nincinerator · 07-20-2011, 03:33 AM

all of them are a atleast a bit imba

CyTo · 07-21-2011, 08:16 AM

Bloodseeker Claw. doesnt need permant stat steal.. but the rest of the item is pretty cool

YouPretendTo · 07-26-2011, 05:10 PM

Bloodseeker Claw's passive has the same name passive with Bloodstone. The passive is kinda OP for its price. The lifesteal also is much stronger than Satanic (i didn't say abt satanic's active).
T-null

Bashtime · 07-30-2011, 02:09 PM

I like this: Bloodseeker Claw
Change Lifesteal from 23% to 18 or 19% imo. 23 is too much because it would make satanic somehow useless.
Grant 1,5 permentaly bonus to main attribute, every time when, owner killing enemy hero. But not stealing from dying unit.
Remove this:

Every time allied hero dies, Bloodseeker Claw gain 1 charges, for one charge carrier gets 15 bonus damage.
All charges are removed when carrier die.

This should be enough effects:
1,2 permentaly bonus to main attribute, every time when, owner killing enemy hero.
18% Lifesteal
13 Damage
60% IAS
Undropable.
T-up

Xedos · 07-30-2011, 03:46 PM

Several changes:

Soul Scepter now have mana cost, and coldown. (I forgot to add last time.)

Soul Scepter damage reduced to 15 (heal still is the same)

Removed "Damage to mana reduced by 50%." from Soul Scepter.

Bloodseeker claw damage reduced to 10, lifesteal to 17%, and attackspeed to 55.

Bloodpact now steal only 1 stat.

Damage per charges in Claw reduced to 10.

Xedos · 08-07-2011, 03:38 PM

Bump

SuperCookie · 08-07-2011, 03:44 PM

t-up for second, but with out damage part.
t-down for first item, coz way too imba\ allready enouf life-stealing in dota.
t-null for last one coz its a joke\way to dump, think of it more

Xedos · 08-07-2011, 05:44 PM

I changed a few things.
For Claw, SuperCookie you're right here - i remove lifesteal, and i add "manasteal" (its codable.)

Removed lifesteal form bloodseeker claw

Added mana steal to bloodseeker claw

New icon, and name for bloodseeker claw (Old does not fit the "mana" theme.)

Added clarity potion to bloodseeker claw recipe

Abgrund · 10-12-2011, 05:44 PM

2nd items looks nice.
manacost only if offensive used?

dmg amplify sounds a bit op since you can restore 500hp + mana if full charged and the heros who benefit from it (every int hero) regain around 40-50% of their total health and manapool in the midgame or get another nuke for 300 dmg.

anyways it sounds like a carry hating item

T-up on this one

D' Eradicated · 10-13-2011, 01:21 AM

T-Down on 1st... T-Null on 2nd and 3rd... Change the recipe of Mark of Immortal... 2 Ultimate Orbs remind me of EoS... And Ultimate Orb is way overused...

07-16-2011, 11:21 PM	#2
sunnymarcell Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 6,400 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Xedos Item's pack 1. what do you think why slark lost his permanent attribute stealing from essence shift? also since every effect from the basic items are highened, it would be a worthy item to buy even without the passive. is the lifesteal orb effect or not? 2. simple magic wand upgrade, very nice idea. 3. i dont really understand the active part :\ also loled on 666 recipe price

07-17-2011, 12:13 AM	#3
twoeyedyum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 279	Re: Xedos Item's pack Bloodseeker Claw. 1) Too powerful for it's price. Recipe gives +6 DMG, +11% IAS and +8% LS. AND uber passive. Seriously, recipe cost is too small. 2) What sunnymarcell said, T-Down on stat stealing or gain per kill. Pudge would rule the world with this. 3) I like charges from allied deaths. Honestly, i'd remove stat gain and left only this. Nice idea, and quite balanced. If you survive 5v5 clash, and all died except you, you get +60 damage until your death, which is ok. Suggestion: remove stat gain, increase recipe cost to 4000 or even 4500. It would fit insane lifesteal Soul Scepter Nice concept. But think about numbers! For mere 2100 gold you get chargeable Dagon, which deals max of 500 damage to enemy, removing also 250 mana. Or you can heal ally's mana and hp by 500. No manacost for use, no cooldown. Overpowered like hell. Magic damage increase with prereq. of 6 charges is OK. Suggestion: let each charge replenish 20 hp/mana to allies and remove 15 hp/mana from enemy. And even then recipe cost might be raised to 1000 gold. Mark Of Immortal If only target hero becomes "immortal", then it's OK. Must have really visible effect for enemy to know, which hero is "caster", and which is "immortal". Suggestion: mention visible effect, add some manacost (70-100) T-Up on 2nd and 3rd items, if you make them better. But i somewhat doubt overall usefullnes of Claws, so T-Null for now.

07-17-2011, 05:17 AM	#4
kEi_nguyen Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 20	Re: Xedos Item's pack 666 rofl........like "the hell is back" i love your set item.....but 1st still im3 a lot.......i don't know how to fix but still love it.... T-Up all

07-20-2011, 03:33 AM	#5
Nincinerator Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 486	Re: Xedos Item's pack all of them are a atleast a bit imba __________________ nincinerator (garena)

07-21-2011, 08:16 AM	#6
CyTo Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 335	Re: Xedos Item's pack Bloodseeker Claw. doesnt need permant stat steal.. but the rest of the item is pretty cool __________________ "Fairness is a wonderful attribute, Major Anderson. It has nothing to do with war."

07-26-2011, 05:10 PM	#7
YouPretendTo Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Using smoke of deceit , hunting... Posts: 24	Re: Xedos Item's pack Bloodseeker Claw's passive has the same name passive with Bloodstone. The passive is kinda OP for its price. The lifesteal also is much stronger than Satanic (i didn't say abt satanic's active). T-null

07-30-2011, 02:09 PM	#8
Bashtime Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: European Posts: 485 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Xedos Item's pack I like this: Bloodseeker Claw Change Lifesteal from 23% to 18 or 19% imo. 23 is too much because it would make satanic somehow useless. Grant 1,5 permentaly bonus to main attribute, every time when, owner killing enemy hero. But not stealing from dying unit. Remove this: Every time allied hero dies, Bloodseeker Claw gain 1 charges, for one charge carrier gets 15 bonus damage. All charges are removed when carrier die. This should be enough effects: 1,2 permentaly bonus to main attribute, every time when, owner killing enemy hero. 18% Lifesteal 13 Damage 60% IAS Undropable. T-up __________________ My ideas: I support following ideas and give the soldier a T-up by clicking

07-30-2011, 03:46 PM	#9
Xedos Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 9	Re: Xedos Item's pack Several changes: Soul Scepter now have mana cost, and coldown. (I forgot to add last time.) Soul Scepter damage reduced to 15 (heal still is the same) Removed "Damage to mana reduced by 50%." from Soul Scepter. Bloodseeker claw damage reduced to 10, lifesteal to 17%, and attackspeed to 55. Bloodpact now steal only 1 stat. Damage per charges in Claw reduced to 10.

08-07-2011, 03:38 PM	#10
Xedos Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 9	Re: Xedos Item's pack Bump

08-07-2011, 03:44 PM	#11
SuperCookie Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: The Country Of Vodka Posts: 517	Re: Xedos Item's pack t-up for second, but with out damage part. t-down for first item, coz way too imba\ allready enouf life-stealing in dota. t-null for last one coz its a joke\way to dump, think of it more

08-07-2011, 05:44 PM	#12
Xedos Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 9	Re: Xedos Item's pack I changed a few things. For Claw, SuperCookie you're right here - i remove lifesteal, and i add "manasteal" (its codable.) Removed lifesteal form bloodseeker claw Added mana steal to bloodseeker claw New icon, and name for bloodseeker claw (Old does not fit the "mana" theme.) Added clarity potion to bloodseeker claw recipe

Last edited by Xedos; 08-07-2011 at 10:17 PM.

10-12-2011, 05:44 PM	#13
Abgrund Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 425	Re: Xedos Item's pack 2nd items looks nice. manacost only if offensive used? dmg amplify sounds a bit op since you can restore 500hp + mana if full charged and the heros who benefit from it (every int hero) regain around 40-50% of their total health and manapool in the midgame or get another nuke for 300 dmg. anyways it sounds like a carry hating item T-up on this one