[REMAKE] Echo Stomp

[NoThlnG]

Despite being the most crucial skill for TC, it is very easy to be cancelled by disabling which makes it depends too much on Ancestral Spirit. Also, this will be decent buff to an underused hero.

For current skill, please refer here

Changes are in green


Echo StompAbility Type: Active
Targeting Type: Instant
Ability Hotkey : T



Notes:

• Damage type: magical (spirit), physical (tauren)
• Minimum AoE is 150 and minimum duration is 0.5 second.

• Gives more flexibility on using skill beside depending purely on 2nd skill.
• More reasonable to lvlup because of increasing damage and less increased mana cost.
• Reduced the duration at later lvl because 5 second knockout is unnecessarily long.

[ParaDise.-]

I would prefer that if you had been disabled your spirit will continue casting Echo
That would make the stun more relaible.
Dunno if work tough
Umm... your remake...
Feel a little strange to me since the max knockout would be 4 seconds and Earth Split needs 3 to affect.
With this you would need a perfect time to achieve the whole combo.

[L-60]

T-up on the duration

T-down on the AoE want it to be constant 475

[NoThlnG]

Originally Posted by ParaDise.-

I would prefer that if you had been disabled your spirit will continue casting Echo
That would make the stun more relaible.
Dunno if work tough
Umm... your remake...
Feel a little strange to me since the max knockout would be 4 seconds and Earth Split needs 3 to affect.
With this you would need a perfect time to achieve the whole combo.

Buffed the duration little bit. Though personally I don't think 1 second more would be that hard to execute the combo.

Originally Posted by LANCER6O

T-up on the duration

T-down on the AoE want it to be constant 475

???

The AoE is constant if you cast until 1.4 seconds which will be same as current.


EDIT : Adjusted minimum AoE and duration a bit

[shreyuz]

Please make it so that you dont lose CD and mana when u are interrupted !

[Super_Duflair]

Originally Posted by shreyuz

Please make it so that you dont lose CD and mana when u are interrupted !

Pretty much this.

I like your remake but I'd rather having this kind of buff.

[Dr_JP]

Let me think for a while:

- 1.4 sec channeling time to react and counter him.

- TC has 1200 range for Ancestral Spirit.

- If 1 sec was passed before I've stunned TC (delay among noticing him, thinking what to do, pressing the hotkey and my hero cast animation + time elapsed to projectile travelling at most cases), am I still 3 seconds knocked out?

Conclusion: this would make him pretty much uncounterble!

Even if that feature was true only about about TC himself (not his AS), the new trend would be buying Dagger for TC (which seems a very strange idea, cuz I think TC is meant to initiate from far).

PS:
The only buff I'd like to see about this would be (though it's pretty strange too):

- If interrupted, Echo Stomp goes into cooldown but it doesn't spend mana.

Why?

- In fact, TC is a caster without good int growth + expensive spells.

- Like someone above said, if it wouldn't go into cooldown when interrupted, TC would catch anyone again.

Correct me if I've understood it wrong.
And, as you may know, it's a positive criticism...not only saying t-down.

[NoThlnG]

Originally Posted by Dr_JP

Let me think for a while:

- 1.4 sec channeling time to react and counter him.

- TC has 1200 range for Ancestral Spirit.

- If 1 sec was passed before I've stunned TC (delay among noticing him, thinking what to do, pressing the hotkey and my hero cast animation + time elapsed to projectile travelling at most cases), am I still 3 seconds knocked out?

Conclusion: this would make him pretty much uncounterble!

Yes, about 3 seconds knockout.

But remember the AoE is reduced as well.

[Monsterlord]

Conclusion: this would make him pretty much uncounterble!

Even if that feature was true only about about TC himself (not his AS), the new trend would be buying Dagger for TC (which seems a very strange idea, cuz I think TC is meant to initiate from far).

PS:
The only buff I'd like to see about this would be (though it's pretty strange too):

- If interrupted, Echo Stomp goes into cooldown but it doesn't spend mana.

Those.

I would prefer that if you had been disabled your spirit will continue casting Echo
That would make the stun more relaible.

And this.

The suggestion itself doesn't seem too great, to be honest.

[Flame13]

I would like this T-up