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Old 07-18-2011, 02:56 PM   #1
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- Introduction -
So I went online to see what new version has brought to us and have also decided to use that time in order to post a new idea I've had.

So, what are things that are bothering me here?
1 - Her Carrion Swarm is actually bad skill since it's practically same skill as Shockwave, Dragon Slave and Sonic Wave, and way too similar to Breathe Fire.
2 - Her Silence is same as Silence from Drow.
4 - Witchcraft.
4 - Doesn't have an ASU.
5 - There are some numbers that need fixing.

Here is current Death Prophet.


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Bat Swarm
Type: Active
Targeting: Point
Targets: Enemy Units
Hotkey: R
Sends a horde of bats to damage and blind enemies.
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 ManaCooldownC. RangeAoEDurationEffects
1
110
5
600
110 (Starting AoE) / 700 (Distance) / 300 (Final AoE)
5
90 damage per unit, 10% blind per unit for duration.
2
120
5
600
110 (Starting AoE) / 700 (Distance) / 300 (Final AoE)
5
160 damage per unit, 15% blind per for duration.
3
130
5
600
110 (Starting AoE) / 700 (Distance) / 300 (Final AoE)
5
230 damage per unit, 20% blind per unit for duration.
4
150
5
600
110 (Starting AoE) / 700 (Distance) / 300 (Final AoE)
5
300 damage per unit, 25% blind per unit for duration.

-Notes:




• Damage type: magical
• Can hit units up to 1110 range away.
• Blind means that that and affected unit has a chance to miss on attack.

- Icon is taken from this thread (would be nice if someone could recolor it so it fits it's current icon color theme).
This skill is same as her current Carrion Swarm, but with blind effect.
Anyway, now her skill is named properly and has more fitting icon (even though it needs to get recolored in my opinion), it scales per level better, it has better late game potential, has synergy with other skills, improves her tankines and turns it into a more unique skill.
Perfect if you ask me.


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Old 07-18-2011, 03:04 PM   #2
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Default Re: Krobelus [Small Remake]

First skill is still a shockwave-skill? Or something else?
But it's better then old, better damage-output, and a blind buff on the enemies.

Second skill too like a shockwave-skill? Or something else? Because I couldn't read it, but I like it.

Both remaked skills gives Krobelus more chasing potential, all-in-all more team-potential.
T-up.
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:10 PM   #3
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Default Re: Krobelus [Small Remake]

Yes, they are both cast like Shockwave, but with different effects and numbers.
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:12 PM   #4
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Default Re: Krobelus [Small Remake]

T-Up on everything, personally I like most the second skill, and I would suggest an aghanims upgrade
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:44 PM   #5
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Default Re: Krobelus [Small Remake]

Just couldn't help myself from posting.
Here's my idea:
Carrion Swarm remains as is, but gets a
thematic remake to ''Banshee's Wail''
(visual of recoloured Shockwave/Crushing Wave)

Witchcraft retains its MS bonus, also still
improves Exorcism, but not other spells, and
now adds silence to the next spell she casts.
1/2/3/4 second silence to next spell,
passive cooldown of 8 seconds
OR
3 seconds silence to next spell, passive
cooldown of 12/10/8/6 seconds
(numbers might need a tweak)
Silence gets replaced by ''Soul Possession''
Krobelus can enter and remain dormant
inside a host (similar to Naix's Infest) and is
able to cast spells whilst inside.
Can ''jump'' from one unit to another.
(when she casts a spell, it won't affect the
unit she's in currently)
Exorcism remains the same, but gets ''call
back'' ability.

*Silence is added to Swarm, as a nova effect
when she casts Exorcism, or when she
enters a unit through possession.
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:07 PM   #6
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Default Re: Krobelus [Small Remake]

Total T-up! I especially like Agha suggestion since it makes her into a proper tank by giving her an reliable heal. Great job!
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:29 PM   #7
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Default Re: Krobelus [Small Remake]

I like it a lot, but wouldn't it be too OP a hero that has Silence, Blind and Slow?

You still need to fix Witchcraft notes, her skill isn't called Silence anymore.

T-up, anyways.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:42 AM   #8
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Default Re: Krobelus [Small Remake]

Then what about with heroes with stun?
Stun does everything those 3 effects do combined, does it better and more.
Also, if she's proven that she's OP with these skills, few number tweaks can fix it without problem.

Also, thanks for noticing mistake in notes.
I'll fix it right away.

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T-Up on everything, personally I like most the second skill, and I would suggest an aghanims upgrade
I already did, but all changes are in notes.

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Just couldn't help myself from posting.
Here's my idea:
Carrion Swarm remains as is, but gets a
thematic remake to ''Banshee's Wail''
(visual of recoloured Shockwave/Crushing Wave)

Witchcraft retains its MS bonus, also still
improves Exorcism, but not other spells, and
now adds silence to the next spell she casts.
1/2/3/4 second silence to next spell,
passive cooldown of 8 seconds
OR
3 seconds silence to next spell, passive
cooldown of 12/10/8/6 seconds
(numbers might need a tweak)
Silence gets replaced by ''Soul Possession''
Krobelus can enter and remain dormant
inside a host (similar to Naix's Infest) and is
able to cast spells whilst inside.
Can ''jump'' from one unit to another.
(when she casts a spell, it won't affect the
unit she's in currently)
Exorcism remains the same, but gets ''call
back'' ability.

*Silence is added to Swarm, as a nova effect
when she casts Exorcism, or when she
enters a unit through possession.
Idea is good, but I think it would fit Silencer much better (I actually am planning a remake with a skill like that).

'Call Back' sub-ability on Exorcism isn't needed on my remake since she is healed instantly by the spirits when she gets Aghanim's Scepter and doesn't need to wait for them to return.

Soul Possession is cool, but it would be way to similar to N'aix's Infest and would change her play style way too much in my opinion.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:51 AM   #9
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Default Re: Krobelus [Small Remake]

First, Hello and welcome back, Lithary.

@2nd, T-up on Bat Swarm, however its kind of awkward to have two spells that has the same cast type with shockwave/Breathe Fire/Dual Breathe, but because of this it makes this hero unique, T-null on Scream, T-null on Witch Craft, since its a filler skill, however the Exorcism is nice, and it would be better if corpses can also become spirits, with a fix number of course.
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Old 07-19-2011, 10:19 AM   #10
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Default Re: Krobelus [Breast Enlargement]

T-up.
I also like your icons.
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Old 07-19-2011, 10:38 AM   #11
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T-up.
I also like your icons.
Same, icons are good but deserve a recolouring to fit the theme IMO
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Old 07-19-2011, 10:53 AM   #12
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Nice title.
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Old 07-19-2011, 11:35 AM   #13
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Default Re: Krobelus [Breast Enlargement]

^
Agreed. Although I've seen the title before it changed. Krobelus [Small Remakes]
So your summer holiday is over, eh? You'll swarm playdota again..
Actually I'm fine with the current krobelus, but I'm fine with this (big) buffs either..
Semi T-up I guess.
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She also needs butt augmentation.

Anyway. T- UP for the slow.
Btw, since I'm a freak. You have a typo on your witchcraft notes. Instead of Bat Swarm, you wrote Carrion Swarm.
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:20 PM   #15
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TUp, the blind gives her a bit more utility and the slow synergises perfectly with her other skills. This could be the buff she needs
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:54 PM   #16
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Forgot to say that I don't like your icon suggestions. It destroys the perfect synergy the current icon set has, besides being a bit unwarcraftish.
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:59 PM   #17
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T-D
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FAKE title.
Btw, how can you rename thread's name?

T-up on Banshee Scream, but rescale the slow, like 15/20/25/30%.

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Is this codeable?
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wad? wer is enlargement?0.o

t-up for new swarm and scream.
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FAKE title.
Btw, how can you rename thread's name? Edit post-> Go edvanced. Upper left corner is Title.

T-up on Banshee Scream, but rescale the slow, like 15/20/25/30%.


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First, Hello and welcome back, Lithary.
I'm just here for few days until me and my friends are ready to continue with our holiday.
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@2nd, T-up on Bat Swarm, however its kind of awkward to have two spells that has the same cast type with shockwave/Breathe Fire/Dual Breathe, but because of this it makes this hero unique, T-null on Scream, T-null on Witch Craft, since its a filler skill, however the Exorcism is nice, and it would be better if corpses can also become spirits, with a fix number of course.
You're true about that, but I don't think it's that big of a deal actually.
Will try to think of an alternative version of that spell though.

About corpses becoming spirits, I'll think of it.
Her damage output is already good so I think it would be better to improve her tankiness.

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Same, icons are good but deserve a recolouring to fit the theme IMO
I'll try to find someone who will recolor them since I have no idea how to do it myself.

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She also needs butt augmentation.
I'll augment her butt all right.

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Anyway. T- UP for the slow.
Btw, since I'm a freak. You have a typo on your witchcraft notes. Instead of Bat Swarm, you wrote Carrion Swarm.
Thanks for noticing that.
I'll fix it right away.

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TUp, the blind gives her a bit more utility and the slow synergises perfectly with her other skills. This could be the buff she needs
Thanks.
Since she is one of my favorite heroes, I wish to improve her as best as I can.

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Forgot to say that I don't like your icon suggestions. It destroys the perfect synergy the current icon set has, besides being a bit unwarcraftish.
True, but I think that a good recolor could save them.
If no one will do that for me (since I can't), I'll just remove them from suggestion.

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i like bat swarm. perma-blind ftw.

shockwave like scream? i dont say logic is dota, but this is just pure bullshit.
make it aoe around you. since you need to stay close to the targets, it would be strategically better too. like scream of pain, the real scream.
reduce its cooldown by 3, just like the old silence.

actually its a t-up for bat swarm, t-down for banshee scream
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Once a hero has Engineering Upgrade it can't have a second one. So no Aghanim for Krobelus or you remove her third skill.
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i like bat swarm. perma-blind ftw.

shockwave like scream? i dont say logic is dota, but this is just pure bullshit.
make it aoe around you. since you need to stay close to the targets, it would be strategically better too. like scream of pain, the real scream.
reduce its cooldown by 3, just like the old silence.

actually its a t-up for bat swarm, t-down for banshee scream
I planned to do that originally, but I'm afraid it would make her too boring in case she gets two instant cast skills.
Also, you forget that QoP's ultimate is also a Shockwave-like scream.
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I planned to do that originally, but I'm afraid it would make her too boring in case she gets two instant cast skills.
Also, you forget that QoP's ultimate is also a Shockwave-like scream.
thats a shockWAVE. the WAVE, caused by the scream, but its different from the scream. i hope you understand, but you wont.

why the hell would be she boring if he gets two instant cast skills? 30-40% of heroes got 2 or more instant cast skills (panda, sven, shaker, just to name a few)

also unnamed_ meant, that her ultimate is already strongened by witchcraft, so she cant receive an aghanim upgrade. like syllabear.
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Not only. A hero can only have 1 Engineering Upgrade. More won't work.
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thats a shockWAVE. the WAVE, caused by the scream, but its different from the scream. i hope you understand, but you wont.
Don't be a prick or it will backfire.

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why the hell would be she boring if he gets two instant cast skills? 30-40% of heroes got 2 or more instant cast skills (panda, sven, shaker, just to name a few)
I said that I was afraid that that might happen, not that it actually will.

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also unnamed_ meant, that her ultimate is already strongened by witchcraft, so she cant receive an aghanim upgrade. like syllabear.
You mean, it's impossible to give her an ASU?
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I disagree with making her Shockwave an instant AoE skill, that would reduce her early-game presence a lot.
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That is also a good point.
At early game, she is not suited for role of tank and forcing her to get close to combat is actually bad idea.

Also, since Whichcraft screws her ASU and is just a filler skill, I'm obviously trying to think of a better passive to replace that one.
What do you guys think of Necro'lic's old Gravekeeper's Cloak (one where he dispersed damage taken, just like Spectre's Dispersion, but it healed allies instead of damaged enemies)?
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I like the idea of applying blind with Bat Swarm, but you can actually 30% blind the whole enemy team in a battle, so I think it's kinda of too powerful; not to mention the blind stays for 4 seconds and if your Withcraft improves cooldown of first skill to 6 seconds or below, you can blind them continuously. Therefore, I'll support the current Carrion Swarm.
For some reason, I think it'd be a huge buff if Krobelus gets a slow skill or stun skill. But then again, it doesn't hurt either. Moving the blind here instead of the slow can be good as well, imo.

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If a spirit gets 2000 range or more from Krobelus, it will be destroyed.
This nerf is necessary. Someone please apply this nerf.

Apart from that, I'm not too sure about an Aghanim's for her either.

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T-up for putting bigger breasts on model.

T-down for the imba changes you're trying to make. 4s miss chance on a 4s CD spell (at max witchcraft, which is pretty early)??? usrs?

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Apart from that, I'm not too sure about an Aghanim's for her either.
That "nerf" is already "applied". L2read.
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I like the idea of applying blind with Bat Swarm, but you can actually 30% blind the whole enemy team in a battle, so I think it's kinda of too powerful; not to mention the blind stays for 4 seconds and if your Withcraft improves cooldown of first skill to 6 seconds or below, you can blind them continuously. Therefore, I'll support the current Carrion Swarm.
For some reason, I think it'd be a huge buff if Krobelus gets a slow skill or stun skill. But then again, it doesn't hurt either. Moving the blind here instead of the slow can be good as well, imo.
I can reduce Blind % if it's proven to be needed, so there is no problem there.

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T-up for putting bigger breasts on model.

T-down for the imba changes you're trying to make. 4s miss chance on a 4s CD spell (at max witchcraft, which is pretty early)??? usrs?
I can always fix numbers, so there is no problem there.
Still, remember that she needs to spam her Bat Swarm constantly in order to maintain constant Blind effect and that costs lot of mana.
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I can always fix numbers, so there is no problem there.
Still, remember that she needs to spam her Bat Swarm constantly in order to maintain constant Blind effect and that costs lot of mana.
140 mana per 4 seconds. Krobelus easily has that.
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The miss chance is cool imo, because WC3's banshees use curse.

I think it would be awesome if somehow the "og" banshee's possession could be worked in.

I was thinking, it would work like infest, but you gained control of the creep with some kind of bonus to it, and became non-hostile to neutrals. I dunno, just a thought.

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Old 07-30-2011, 09:45 PM   #35
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Default Re: Krobelus [Breast Enlargement]

I'll have to think of something which won't change her role since I wish only to improve her, not change her.

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140 mana per 4 seconds. Krobelus easily has that.
Well then, I think I'll nerf numbers then.
It will have to wait until I get some sleep though.
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:00 PM   #36
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30% Slow, 4 second silence, perma 30% aoe miss

anything u missed?
T-down, this is too op
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:20 PM   #37
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First i was like wha? Visuals on Remake section but then...

I think 1st spell cd must be increased, perma blinding someone is not nice.(Note that witchcraft would reduce its cooldown by 4 sec)
2nd spell- reduce ms reduction, how bout 10/15/20/25%. Im sorry, i know its concept not numbers but the numbers really get on me.
Ulti- i would like it if same souls but damage increased.

T-null on the idea.
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:22 PM   #38
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Default Re: Krobelus [Breast Enlargement]

You could always try a new concept, ie charges which increase your mana regen and damage. And use the charges to volley spells with physics like Ball and Chain

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Carrion Swarm - Unchanged
Banshee's Call - Silences nearby enemies. Small initial AoE. Each enemy struck releases their own Banshee's Call.
Possession (Replaces Witchcraft) - Inhabits a nearby unit/allied hero/allied hero/allied or enemy hero, dealing or healing that unit. Also allows you to cast improved versions of spells from inside that hero by draining additional mana (Use a different unit). Lasts 6/8/10/12 seconds
Exorcism - Unchanged or with ASU

How's that?
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Old 07-31-2011, 11:30 PM   #39
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How about removing exorcism on witchcraft passive and add its buff on the ultimate itself, then add your suggested ASU there?
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Old 08-01-2011, 01:07 AM   #40
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Default Re: Krobelus [Breast Enlargement]

^Not possible. Witchcraft has to replaced completely, because a hero can only use one engeneering upgrade (which is used for scepter and witchcraft). Same goes for Lone druid's synergy.
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