[AGI-NEUT] Swip Hillscraper, the Goblin Skyspurer

Super_Duflair · 07-19-2011, 08:00 AM

Swip Hillscraper - the Goblin Zeppelin

CHANGELOG

HERO

Swip Hillscraper - the Goblin Skyspurer

Strength - 20+ [2.2]

Agility - 22 + [1.4]

Intelligence - 14 + [1.8]

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Affiliation:	Neutral
Damage:	44-46
Armor:	5.4
Movespeed:	290
Attack Range:	450
Attack Animation:	0.30 / 0.45
Casting Animation:	0.50 / 0.35

Post-combustion

Type: Toggle On/Off

Targeting: Self

Hotkey: C

Swip unleashes the full potential of his machine by letting his engines go full power in successive MS boosts. Dramatically increase movement speed and allows flying over impassable terrain, but drains HP and reduces turning rate by 50%.

	Cooldown	Effects
1	10 sec	Increase MS by 20% + 10% every 2 seconds. Costs 2%HP upon activation, then 2%HP per boost.
2	10 sec	Increase MS by 30% + 15% every 2 seconds. Costs 3%HP upon activation, then 2%HP per boost.
3	10 sec	Increase MS by 40% + 20% every 2 seconds. Costs 4%HP upon activation, then 2%HP per boost.
4	10 sec	Increase MS by 50% + 25% every 2 seconds. Costs 5%HP upon activation, then 2%HP per boost.

In this state, can pass impassable terrain.

In this state, turning rate is reduced by 50%.

Life loss is calculated on Swip max HP.

Toggle off if Swip's HP drops below 50%.

How it works: huge MS boost for a short duration due to HP removal, allow to land a perfect surprise ultimate but you need to aim well, cause you are not very drivable with a 50% reduced turning rate.

Carpet Bombing

Type: Active

Target: AoE

Hotkey: E

The Skyspurer drops all his remaining weapons on the targeted area, dealing damage and stunning for a short time.

	Mana	Cooldown	Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	105	24 sec	650	475	0.1 sec	Stuns and deals 50 damage in the AoE. Drops 2 waves.
2	125	24 sec	650	475	0.2 sec	Stuns and deals 50 damage in the AoE. Drops 3 waves.
3	145	24 sec	650	475	0.3 sec	Stuns and deals 50 damage in the AoE. Drops 4 waves.
4	165	24 sec	650	475	0.4 sec	Stuns and deals 50 damage in the AoE. Drops 5 waves.

Waves are released every 1 second.

Damage dealt is magical.

How it works: It is like a "barrage shooting", aiming to slow enemies' movement while escaping, or prevent allies from being chased.

Gas Leak

Type: Passive.

Targeting: Ennemy heroes

The Skyspurer zeppelin is so old that it release some gas from its baloon when used. Intelligently, Swip replaced Helium with Zyklon B to silence and deal minor damage to enemy heroes nearby. Triggers when Swip casts a spell, upon a Post-combustion boost or when he hits an enemy hero in Spur state.

	AoE	Duration	Cooldown	Effects
1	275	0.75 sec	1.5 sec	Deals 20 damage and silences when triggered.
2	325	1 sec	2 sec	Deals 30 damage and silences when triggered.
3	375	1.25 sec	2.5 sec	Deals 40 damage and silences when triggered.
4	425	1.5 sec	3 sec	Deals 50 damage and silences when triggered.

Damage dealt is magical.

Spur

Type: Active

Targeting: Self

Hotkey: R

Using his zeppelin as a real weapon, the Skyspurer is able to drag with him any unit that dares enter in contact with him. Deals damage according to Swip's speed upon impact.

	Mana	Cooldown	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	100	16 sec	150	4 sec	30% speed dealt in damage, but reduce Swip's MS by 50 every impact.
2	125	16 sec	150	5 sec	40% speed dealt in damage, but reduce Swip's MS by 40 every impact.
3	150	16 sec	150	6 sec	50% speed dealt in damage, but reduce Swip's MS by 30 every impact.

Swip is unable to attack in this state.

Cannot drag units onto impassible terrain.

Ends if Swip casts a spell or is disabled.

Dragged heroes can still cast spells and attack.

Damage dealt is physical.

Can be dispelled by Purge.

How it works: Swip runs into his enemies and drag them with him, allowing him to initiate fights and gather foes.

GUIDE

Please vote on concept and, above all, comment to give me a feedback. Regards

English fixed by Strutter, thanks to him

gamerinboxers · 07-19-2011, 11:27 AM

Hmm... 1st blood?

I actually think its quite a decent nice hero!
Just think skill 1 MS boost seems a little on the realllllllly high side...
Also, not sure if you need 2 MS boost skills...
But in general, Nice!

God of Death · 07-19-2011, 11:43 AM

A very interesting hero, without doubt.

Super_Duflair · 07-19-2011, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamerinboxers

Hmm... 1st blood?

I actually think its quite a decent nice hero!
Just think skill 1 MS boost seems a little on the realllllllly high side...
Also, not sure if you need 2 MS boost skills...
But in general, Nice!

Mhh actually, the first skill is a powerful MS boost, but with very annoying drawbacks (lot of HP loss, -50% turning side which is a lot) and so cannot be used easily or without risks.

The (little and short) MS boost in Carpet Bomb is on purpose: it's for giving the hero a little boost after one successful Spur (which means he gets lot of MS reduction due to his ultimate).

Thanks for the review anyway, if there's more people who're chocked by this, I will consider removing it^^

BTW, you won't mind if I take the hero icon from you sig'? I couldn't find one which suits like this one. Thanks!

@God of Death: nothing else to add? :'(

Edit: BTW, no one is chocked by my bad english? Aswell as the hero name or something like that? Since I'm not a native english speaker there may be some misspellings/errors/etc. Don't hesitate to correct me.

God of Death · 07-19-2011, 12:25 PM

Your hero is better than most heroes in the first 20 pages of the forum, is thematic, well templated and has nice icons.

The only drawback is having 2 skills increase MS, IMO.

That do?

Strutter · 07-19-2011, 04:49 PM

The English is really good actually, I marked the mistakes in red. I'll review the hero later when I have a bit more time, but it looks like a good concept so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super_Duflair

CHANGELOG

Swip Hillscraper - the Goblin Skyspurer

Strength - 17 + [2.4]

Agility - 22 + [2.4]

Intelligence - 20 + [1.8]

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Affiliation:	Neutral
Damage:	44-46
Armor:	5.4
Movespeed:	290
Attack Range:	450
Attack Animation:	0.30 / 0.45
Casting Animation:	0.50 / 0.35

Postcombustion

Type: Toggle On/Off

Targeting: Self

Hotkey: C

Swip unleashes the full potential of his machine by letting his engines go full power. Dramatically increase movement speed and allows to pass unpassable terrain, but drains HP and reduces turning rate by 50%.

	Cooldown	Effects
1	10 seconds	Increase MS by 20% + 20% every 2 seconds. Costs 2%HP upon activation, then 2%HP per boost.
2	10 seconds	Increase MS by 26% + 20% every 2 seconds. Costs 3%HP upon activation, then 2%HP per boost.
3	10 seconds	Increase MS by 32% + 20% every 2 seconds. Costs 4%HP upon activation, then 2%HP per boost.
4	10 seconds	Increase MS by 38% + 20% every 2 seconds. Costs 5%HP upon activation, then 2%HP per boost.

In this state, can pass unpassable terrain.

In this state, turning rate is reduced by 50%.

Toggle off if Swip's HP drops below 50%.

How it works: huge MS boost for a short duration due to HP removal, allow to land a perfect surprise ultimate but you need to aim well, cause you are not manageable? with a 50% reduced turning rate.

Carpet Bombing

Type: Active

Target: AoE

Hotkey: E

The Skyspurer drops all his remaining weapons on the targeted area, dealing damage and stunning for a short time. The loss of weight also increase Swip's MS for a short duration.

	Mana	Cooldown	Range	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	105	24 seconds	650	475	0.1 second	Stuns and deals 50 damage in the AoE. Drops 2 waves.
2	125	24 seconds	650	475	0.2 second	Stuns and deals 50 damage in the AoE. Drops 3 waves.
3	145	24 seconds	650	475	0.3 second	Stuns and deals 50 damage in the AoE. Drops 4 waves.
4	165	24 seconds	650	475	0.4 second	Stuns and deals 50 damage in the AoE. Drops 5 waves.

Waves are released every 1 second.

Has 1 second casting time.

Each wave increase Swip's MS by 5%.

Damage dealt is magical.

Bonus MS last 5s after the end of the spell.

How it works: It is like a "barrage shooting", aiming to slow enemies' movement while escaping, or prevent allies from being chased.

Gas Leak

Type: Passive.

Targeting: Ennemy heroes

The Skyspurer zeppelin is so old that it release some gas (unless you're using the z to make it look more goblin-ish) from its baloon when used. Intelligently, Swip replaced Helium with Zyklon B to silence and deal minor damage to enemy heroes nearby. Triggers when Swip casts a spell, upon a Postcombustion boost or when he hits an enemy hero in Spur state.

	AoE	Effects
1	275	Deals 20 damage and silences for 0.25 second when triggered.
2	325	Deals 30 damage and silences for 0.5 second when triggered.
3	375	Deals 40 damage and silences for 0.75 second when triggered.
4	425	Deals 50 damage and silences for 1 second when triggered.

Has a hidden cooldown of 0.5s to prevent abuses.

Damage dealt is magical.

Spur

Type: Active

Targeting: Self

Hotkey: R

Using his zeppelin as a real weapon, the Skyspurer is able to deal heavy damage to any unit that dares enter in contact with him. Any unit caught in the AoE will be dragged with Swip but will reduce his movement speed.

	Mana	Cooldown	AoE	Duration	Effects
1	100	16 seconds	150	6 seconds	Deals 260 damage on impact, but reduce Swip's MS by 20% per hit.
2	125	16 seconds	150	7 seconds	Deals 340 damage on impact, but reduce Swip's MS by 15% per hit.
3	150	16 seconds	150	8 seconds	Deals 420 damage on impact, but reduce Swip's MS by 10% per hit.

Swip is unable to attack in this state.

Damage dealt is physical.

Ends if Swip casts a spell or is disabled.

Can be dispelled by Purge.

How it works: Swip runs into his enemies and drag them with him, allowing him to initiate fights and gather foes.

Mini Guide to the Skyspurer

Please vote on concept and, above all, comment to give me a feedback. Regards

Super_Duflair · 07-20-2011, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by God of Death

Your hero is better than most heroes in the first 20 pages of the forum, is thematic, well templated and has nice icons.

The only drawback is having 2 skills increase MS, IMO.

That do?

Yes, thanks

(If you're not joking this compliment makes me really proud of myself^^)

I think I'd remove the MS part of the bomb spell though, it seems to chock people^^

@Strutter: thanks a lot! I'll edit my post when I got some time

irisu · 07-20-2011, 06:31 AM

it's easy to figure out how does this hero work: Turn on First then turn on Ulti, go for the win and let third do its job, finally as you gather a few enemies, bomb them down if you're still there XD

Maybe removing the MS boost on second skill will do fine...

Skills: 3.5/4

stats seem fine but i'd suggest compensating a bit more on str since this guy is already suicidal, maybe trade a few points from int in there.

Stats: 3/4

Iconset makes sense and fit quite well everything else, this post has a nice design also.

visuals: 2/2

Overall: 8.5/10 one of the best suggs i've seen on these forums, it just made my imagination fly away thinking a way this hero would be o the real thing, but, i still suggest you check and fix a bit those two factors i've mentioned before. T-UP anyways, this one is worthy

Well, that's it for my review on this moment, hope i could help.

P.D.: Still looking for some reviews for my suggestion also, hope some of you people can gimme a hand with some useful info, because info is as valuable as gold

Super_Duflair · 07-20-2011, 07:42 AM

I removed the MS boost on Carpet Bombing, and I'll take a look on my hero stats, thanks for the review

I'll take a look at your hero this afternoon.

BTW, I'm looking for some ideas to make a Background Story for this hero, any ideas, I'm not good at this^^

Edit: Well I think my stats are good. Actually he has a very high STR gain, even if does not have a great base STR. This is for compensate his high base AGI stat, which allows him to have a good base armor/armor gain. And I don't wank to reduce too much is INT 'cause he needs mana to spam his low-cooldown/high manacost skills

If you think he's paper, then buy survivability items, that's why they exist^^

Panoramik- · 07-20-2011, 09:50 PM

I like it!

...but, despite their differences, this guy plays so similar to Batrider that I don't see him getting very far without some major and unique changes.

gamerinboxers · 07-21-2011, 04:05 AM

Hey,

No issues you taking the icon i used.
=)

Anyway, I do agree that your entry is a much better entry than 80% of the suggestions here...
My only concern here is still that skill 1 is overpowered escape ablility too..
All the player needs to do is face back to base and turn on skill 1.. the HP removal part isn't really painful since you can escape pretty effectively with that speed.. and all these can be done too easily.. hence my concern...
However, I do understand this is needed for ulti to work nicely.. so i'm alittle unsure how to balance this... haha... sorry of no help... =p

Anyway, mind looking at my suggestions too? Thanks!
Note: My golbin zepplin is not completed.. =(

Super_Duflair · 07-21-2011, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamerinboxers

My only concern here is still that skill 1 is overpowered escape ability too..
All the player needs to do is face back to base and turn on skill 1.. the HP removal part isn't really painful since you can escape pretty effectively with that speed.. and all these can be done too easily.. hence my concern..

Well, if you had read the details, you would have seen that he can't use Post-combustion when his HP are below 50%. So you surely won't escape from death with this skill^^. It is mainly for initiating purposes and/or fast ganking.

If you still doubt, maybe I can increase its cooldown to make it less spammable, like Icarus' Dive, but I don't think this is necessary.

Maximusje · 07-21-2011, 12:03 PM

I love the first skill - it makes Swip a very mobile hero and interesting for competative play as an initiator (similar to Batrider). I am not sure about the ultimate though. It seems very powerful, an AoE Flaming Lasso that deals a lot of damage. The high damage output makes it not an initiator spell, but a follow-up spell after the opponents get clumped together because of spells such as Dark Hole, Vacuum or Reverse Polarity. The reduced ms does not balance out the damage output (it only reduces the effectiveness of initiating a battle). I think, therefore, that the ultimate is overpowered and does not fit the initator role.

Furthermore, the reduction of movement speed is completely counter-acted by using post-combustion before initiation.

My suggestion: remove the damage on the ultimate completely.

Oh and about the mini-guide:
Blink Dagger is actually quite nice on the hero. Blink dagger to initiate and hit the perfect ultimate, then post-combustion to try to drag them as close to your teammates as possible.

Edit2: Why is it an agility hero?

AncientRune · 07-21-2011, 12:20 PM

love it T-UP.
note that I don't really like the silence on the 3rd skill.
an enigma will be completely shut down by him.

Super_Duflair · 07-21-2011, 02:15 PM

^

Quote:

note that I don't really like the silence on the 3rd skill.
an enigma will be completely shut down by him.

Well any silence/stun will shut down enigma, I don't get your point. If Swip is under Black Hole his passive will never trigger anyway so...

For the post above:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximusje

I love the first skill - it makes Swip a very mobile hero and interesting for competative play as an initiator (similar to Batrider). I am not sure about the ultimate though. It seems very powerful, an AoE Flaming Lasso that deals a lot of damage. The high damage output makes it not an initiator spell, but a follow-up spell after the opponents get clumped together because of spells such as Dark Hole, Vacuum or Reverse Polarity. The reduced ms does not balance out the damage output (it only reduces the effectiveness of initiating a battle). I think, therefore, that the ultimate is overpowered and does not fit the initator role.

Mhh, what about dealing damage according to the distance enemies are dragged with Swip? Some minor damage like 10/20 per 100 unit?

I'm afraid without damage on his ultimate, he will seriously lack of offensive power, though... Any thoughts?

Furthermore, the reduction of movement speed is completely counter-acted by using post-combustion before initiation.

what about removing completely the damage, but then remove also the MS reduction?

Edit2: Why is it an agility hero?

Well, I thought it was too easy to make him a STR hero (since he's a bit suicidal and need some HP items), and not enough mana intensive to make him a INT. Also I think we lacks AGI heroes who're not carries. Think about Gyro too, he's AGI but he should not theorically.

irisu · 07-21-2011, 08:29 PM

The idea about damage per travel distance on ulti isn't a bad idea now you mention it, but removing inital damage would be wrong also..., maybe you can get base damage from a movement speed percent in this case, that'd be more original, and imo it would have good sense.

In this case you'd not have to remove MS penalty.

about mainstat, i must say that Guardian Wisp looks more fragile than this guy and it's STR, of course this is because GW is some kind of ganker/initiator (correct me if i'm wrong, i don't play that hero because i like INT ones the most, like chen or invoker). So i'd reconsider the fact of either being an STR or an AGI for your suggestion.

Strutter · 07-21-2011, 10:11 PM

Ok quick review.

Theme/Cosmetics: I like the icons okay except for the Ultimate. The skills seem to align with the model and he would certainly be fun to play.

1st Skill - Fun, unique concept. Will the units he "spurs" be dragged onto impassable terrain with this skill? Because that could cause problems.

2nd Skill - Kind of reminds me of shrapnel meets malefice. Not a bad idea, I like the synergy with Ult in that you can cast it on the group of units you've clustered together.

3rd Skill - A good, unique passive. It doesn't wow me but it works.

Ultimate - I'm worried it could be OP since it has twice the duration of Batrider's lasso and the MS reduction is counteracted by Post-combustion and it does a fair amount of damage. Are the units able to attack or cast spells while they're being dragged? Overall a decent idea though it is similar to Batrider and Magnataur's skewer. If you balance the skill it will be another good, but not great, skill.

Overall he seems like a good hero and fun to play, though I'm not sure the actual playstyle is very unique. Maybe a couple tweaks here and there could make him a truly great hero suggestion.

Super_Duflair · 07-22-2011, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strutter

Ok quick review.

Theme/Cosmetics: I like the icons okay except for the Ultimate. The skills seem to align with the model and he would certainly be fun to play.

1st Skill - Fun, unique concept. Will the units he "spurs" be dragged onto impassable terrain with this skill? Because that could cause problems.

Oops, forgot to add it on the notes: it cannot drag unit to impassable terrain, obviously.

2nd Skill - Kind of reminds me of shrapnel meets malefice. Not a bad idea, I like the synergy with Ult in that you can cast it on the group of units you've clustered together.

3rd Skill - A good, unique passive. It doesn't wow me but it works.

Ultimate - I'm worried it could be OP since it has twice the duration of Batrider's lasso and the MS reduction is counteracted by Post-combustion and it does a fair amount of damage. Are the units able to attack or cast spells while they're being dragged? Overall a decent idea though it is similar to Batrider and Magnataur's skewer. If you balance the skill it will be another good, but not great, skill.

I think I'll use irisu's ideas to deal damage accroding to the impact speed, it's very cool and original IMO.

Also forgot to add that yes, dragged unit are not disabled, only their movement is. Maybe based on "entangle" effect or something like that. Enemy heroes can still disable Swip or blink away for instance.

Overall he seems like a good hero and fun to play, though I'm not sure the actual playstyle is very unique. Maybe a couple tweaks here and there could make him a truly great hero suggestion.

A couple of tweaks like what? Gimme some ideas/examples

Thanks for the review anyway, and thanks irisu for the idea, I'll update my post soon with your idea.

Edit: I did some tweaks on the ultimate, I also reduced the duration to 4/5/6 seconds.

irisu · 07-22-2011, 06:52 AM

you're welcome, figuring ideas for helping on your hero goes easy since i can basically form an internal sequence, just like watching it in action inside my mind. This only happens on suggestions that have facts with common sense, like this one. I'd suggest making a testmap for it, it'd be nice.

BTW, i've been thinking of some changes for my hero suggestion at the same time, it's about the facts you just checked on your last review, maybe you should get an eye in there and tell me if you like the new idea or not, so i can start coding or re-thinking again XD

Super_Duflair · 07-26-2011, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irisu

you're welcome, figuring ideas for helping on your hero goes easy since i can basically form an internal sequence, just like watching it in action inside my mind. This only happens on suggestions that have facts with common sense, like this one. I'd suggest making a testmap for it, it'd be nice.

BTW, i've been thinking of some changes for my hero suggestion at the same time, it's about the facts you just checked on your last review, maybe you should get an eye in there and tell me if you like the new idea or not, so i can start coding or re-thinking again XD

Well for the test map IDK, I don't think I'm able to do one^^

I'll check your sugg' soon I guess, thanks again

07-19-2011, 11:43 AM	#3
God of Death Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: I'm Posting Below Stupid Posts: 6,213 Blog Entries: 2	Re: [Neut-Agi] Swip Hillscraper, the Goblin Skyspu A very interesting hero, without doubt.

07-19-2011, 12:25 PM	#5
God of Death Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: I'm Posting Below Stupid Posts: 6,213 Blog Entries: 2	Re: [Neut-Agi] Swip Hillscraper, the Goblin Skyspu Your hero is better than most heroes in the first 20 pages of the forum, is thematic, well templated and has nice icons. The only drawback is having 2 skills increase MS, IMO. That do?

07-20-2011, 06:31 AM	#8
irisu Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 285	Re: [Neut-Agi] Swip Hillscraper, the Goblin Skyspu it's easy to figure out how does this hero work: Turn on First then turn on Ulti, go for the win and let third do its job, finally as you gather a few enemies, bomb them down if you're still there XD Maybe removing the MS boost on second skill will do fine... Skills: 3.5/4 stats seem fine but i'd suggest compensating a bit more on str since this guy is already suicidal, maybe trade a few points from int in there. Stats: 3/4 Iconset makes sense and fit quite well everything else, this post has a nice design also. visuals: 2/2 Overall: 8.5/10 one of the best suggs i've seen on these forums, it just made my imagination fly away thinking a way this hero would be o the real thing, but, i still suggest you check and fix a bit those two factors i've mentioned before. T-UP anyways, this one is worthy Well, that's it for my review on this moment, hope i could help. P.D.: Still looking for some reviews for my suggestion also, hope some of you people can gimme a hand with some useful info, because info is as valuable as gold __________________ "If we want a better world, we'll have to move to a new one" -Looking for reviews: [AGI-SENT] Asha Silverbow, The Mystic Ranger IN GOD I TRUST!

07-20-2011, 07:42 AM	#9
Super_Duflair Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 498	Re: [Neut-Agi] Swip Hillscraper, the Goblin Skyspu I removed the MS boost on Carpet Bombing, and I'll take a look on my hero stats, thanks for the review I'll take a look at your hero this afternoon. BTW, I'm looking for some ideas to make a Background Story for this hero, any ideas, I'm not good at this^^ Edit: Well I think my stats are good. Actually he has a very high STR gain, even if does not have a great base STR. This is for compensate his high base AGI stat, which allows him to have a good base armor/armor gain. And I don't wank to reduce too much is INT 'cause he needs mana to spam his low-cooldown/high manacost skills If you think he's paper, then buy survivability items, that's why they exist^^ __________________ My heroes suggestions: ICC10 Runner-up Steam

07-20-2011, 09:50 PM	#10
Panoramik- Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 248	Re: [AGI-SENT] Swip Hillscraper, the Goblin Skyspu I like it! ...but, despite their differences, this guy plays so similar to Batrider that I don't see him getting very far without some major and unique changes. __________________ Please visit my new hero suggestion:

07-21-2011, 12:03 PM	#13
Maximusje Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 276	Re: [AGI-SENT] Swip Hillscraper, the Goblin Skyspu I love the first skill - it makes Swip a very mobile hero and interesting for competative play as an initiator (similar to Batrider). I am not sure about the ultimate though. It seems very powerful, an AoE Flaming Lasso that deals a lot of damage. The high damage output makes it not an initiator spell, but a follow-up spell after the opponents get clumped together because of spells such as Dark Hole, Vacuum or Reverse Polarity. The reduced ms does not balance out the damage output (it only reduces the effectiveness of initiating a battle). I think, therefore, that the ultimate is overpowered and does not fit the initator role. Furthermore, the reduction of movement speed is completely counter-acted by using post-combustion before initiation. My suggestion: remove the damage on the ultimate completely. Oh and about the mini-guide: Blink Dagger is actually quite nice on the hero. Blink dagger to initiate and hit the perfect ultimate, then post-combustion to try to drag them as close to your teammates as possible. Edit2: Why is it an agility hero? __________________ D2 = Diablo 2, not DotA 2.

07-21-2011, 12:20 PM	#14
AncientRune Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Indonesia Posts: 1,373 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [AGI-SENT] Swip Hillscraper, the Goblin Skyspu love it T-UP. note that I don't really like the silence on the 3rd skill. an enigma will be completely shut down by him. __________________ Akane Yurippe A different view of Earthshaker <-- Click me

07-21-2011, 08:29 PM	#16
irisu Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 285	Re: [AGI-SENT] Swip Hillscraper, the Goblin Skyspu The idea about damage per travel distance on ulti isn't a bad idea now you mention it, but removing inital damage would be wrong also..., maybe you can get base damage from a movement speed percent in this case, that'd be more original, and imo it would have good sense. In this case you'd not have to remove MS penalty. about mainstat, i must say that Guardian Wisp looks more fragile than this guy and it's STR, of course this is because GW is some kind of ganker/initiator (correct me if i'm wrong, i don't play that hero because i like INT ones the most, like chen or invoker). So i'd reconsider the fact of either being an STR or an AGI for your suggestion. __________________ "If we want a better world, we'll have to move to a new one" -Looking for reviews: [AGI-SENT] Asha Silverbow, The Mystic Ranger IN GOD I TRUST!

07-21-2011, 10:11 PM	#17
Strutter Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 366	Re: [AGI-SENT] Swip Hillscraper, the Goblin Skyspu Ok quick review. Theme/Cosmetics: I like the icons okay except for the Ultimate. The skills seem to align with the model and he would certainly be fun to play. 1st Skill - Fun, unique concept. Will the units he "spurs" be dragged onto impassable terrain with this skill? Because that could cause problems. 2nd Skill - Kind of reminds me of shrapnel meets malefice. Not a bad idea, I like the synergy with Ult in that you can cast it on the group of units you've clustered together. 3rd Skill - A good, unique passive. It doesn't wow me but it works. Ultimate - I'm worried it could be OP since it has twice the duration of Batrider's lasso and the MS reduction is counteracted by Post-combustion and it does a fair amount of damage. Are the units able to attack or cast spells while they're being dragged? Overall a decent idea though it is similar to Batrider and Magnataur's skewer. If you balance the skill it will be another good, but not great, skill. Overall he seems like a good hero and fun to play, though I'm not sure the actual playstyle is very unique. Maybe a couple tweaks here and there could make him a truly great hero suggestion.

07-22-2011, 06:52 AM	#19
irisu Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 285	Re: [AGI-SENT] Swip Hillscraper, the Goblin Skyspu you're welcome, figuring ideas for helping on your hero goes easy since i can basically form an internal sequence, just like watching it in action inside my mind. This only happens on suggestions that have facts with common sense, like this one. I'd suggest making a testmap for it, it'd be nice. BTW, i've been thinking of some changes for my hero suggestion at the same time, it's about the facts you just checked on your last review, maybe you should get an eye in there and tell me if you like the new idea or not, so i can start coding or re-thinking again XD __________________ "If we want a better world, we'll have to move to a new one" -Looking for reviews: [AGI-SENT] Asha Silverbow, The Mystic Ranger IN GOD I TRUST!