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Old 08-20-2011, 05:40 PM   #1
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Default Most OP Hero in Dota 2?


My personal opinion is Sniper, he has long range with a ministun and fast attackspeed giving him a big advantage put in the right combo and with the right farm.

who is the most op hero?

Anti-mage, sniper, spectre, weaver, and so on.

An example video showing Sniper get a rampage.

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Old 08-20-2011, 05:43 PM   #2
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Old 08-20-2011, 05:43 PM   #3
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its hard to say because we are seeing a pro sniper use it not a beginner play it
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Old 08-20-2011, 05:43 PM   #4
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A farmed carry in a game where the other team is dominated gets a rampage. That could happen with any carry in DotA/Dota2, also Dota2 has the same balance as DotA so he cant be OP in Dota2 if he is not in DotA.
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Old 08-20-2011, 05:44 PM   #5
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OH LOOK SNIPER MADE THE FIRST RAMPAGE IN DOTA2 NERF PLS

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Old 08-20-2011, 05:47 PM   #6
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Wtf old roar sounds better than the new one.

It now sounds like a prevented wail.
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Old 08-20-2011, 05:50 PM   #7
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Old 08-20-2011, 06:01 PM   #8
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still its pros versus pros
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Old 08-20-2011, 06:24 PM   #9
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This got to be the worst thread on PD
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Old 08-20-2011, 06:38 PM   #10
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Gank him and you'll be fine.
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:02 PM   #11
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haha why :P ?
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:05 PM   #12
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he gives extra 50 gold, it's was a way to balance him. This was added in 6.52 afair
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:08 PM   #13
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he was already feeded. you can see plenty of wodota moves, when the killer is already beyond godlike. everything is so easy with farm. see all ehome (even in dota 2), or LGD games.

actually playmate's tinker got once an ultra kill. they lost that match.
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:27 PM   #14
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Yeh, I actually think Nirvana totally raped that game, getting a really nice feed to sniper. But still, i've always looked at Sniper as Overpowered with his long range shots.
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:35 PM   #15
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Is sniper in Dota 2 op, or the same as always?
He is the same as always, and you're a tard.

Sniper is the best carry in dota , i dare you try to outargue me.

btw spectre doesn't outcarry sniper by any means, if that happens its cuz of the rest of the team , which many people seem to overlook in such situations
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:43 PM   #16
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No way he is the best carry, you find way better. Mortred, mortred pwns the shit out of him with some attack speed and crits.
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:44 PM   #17
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sniper gets a rampage so that means he was changed and is op in dota 2?

dude, you forget the dire were Virus
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:44 PM   #18
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mortred a competitive level carry.. oh god... this guy clearly knows his stuff thats for sure
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:44 PM   #19
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still its pros versus pros
It is navi vs virus
It is pro vs pub
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:48 PM   #20
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He is the same as always, and you're a tard.

Sniper is the best carry in dota , i dare you try to outargue me.

btw spectre doesn't outcarry sniper by any means, if that happens its cuz of the rest of the team , which many people seem to overlook in such situations
Spectre shits on sniper and on the rest of snipers team at the same time. Outcarry that
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:49 PM   #21
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Old 08-20-2011, 07:55 PM   #22
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Ursa kills Snipers
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Old 08-20-2011, 08:38 PM   #23
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Well, depends on the skill level of the spectre and the other team.
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:16 PM   #24
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:26 PM   #25
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+1

didnt like his faceless void tho...
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:00 PM   #26
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Doom counters him.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:03 PM   #27
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:06 PM   #28
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sniper can kill spectre's team 18 times faster from 15 times more range. To die to spectre you have to be quite retarded or outpicked in general/outfarmed.

Spectre is easily outcarried by many, MANY heroes. If you think spec owns its because you see it when his team has destroyed enemy's team already and spec just does finishing touches.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:14 PM   #29
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lololo spectre is easyily outcarried...lolo
spectre is strong as shit plus her ulti is on of the best carry ultys out there so jigga please
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:20 PM   #30
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It's the same from DotA 1, why he would be OP?
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He is the same as always, and you're a tard.

Sniper is the best carry in dota , i dare you try to outargue me.

btw spectre doesn't outcarry sniper by any means, if that happens its cuz of the rest of the team , which many people seem to overlook in such situations
Best carry? LoL sir you made my night xD
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:34 PM   #32
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Carry is such a misnomer. Spectre is pretty much "carried" up to mid-game. Sniper is almost the same, except he ought to last hit(including assassinate) some heroes in the process. I'm talking about pro games, btw.

(Not that I expect any linguistic discussion overtaking tradition )
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:51 PM   #33
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Noob didin't kill fountain 2/10
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Old 08-20-2011, 11:07 PM   #34
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sniper can kill spectre's team 18 times faster from 15 times more range. To die to spectre you have to be quite retarded or outpicked in general/outfarmed.

Spectre is easily outcarried by many, MANY heroes. If you think spec owns its because you see it when his team has destroyed enemy's team already and spec just does finishing touches.
Its kind of the same with sniper though, you cant really do much unless you are farmed and the other team is outfarmed. If the other team has one good carry themselves it is much gg. Lets say sniper on one team and spectre on the other, what happens?
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Its kind of the same with sniper? lol no

Put sniper on a 3lane with earthshaker and CM (for example) and destroy your enemy, nova + fissure + shrapnel can beat anything , you get such easy kills its stupid even, i know cause ive done that in so many HS CW-s.
Put sniper on a 3lane against a soloer and with shrapnel you'll push their towers super fast.
Put sniper on a team fight on minute 10 and as long as he has his 810 range + shrapnel with 539285902 cast range + assassinate and he can turn the tide of the battle, considering assassinate does such a ridiculous damage with low CD and huge range, id say its better than Lion's finger of death, easily.

Sniper is good turtle, if you go against pusher strat or u get owned early game u can turtle with shrapnel alone, spectre can't do absolutely anything.
Like that guy said, spectre gets carried into the game so how can a hero like that without any personality even be considered *best*? dont make me laugh, fed storm destroys spectre, ive lost games as spectre with hot / radi diffu etc all core items against some storm who could drop people and get out just like that

spectre is outcarried by many and unless it *FITS* in your team she is fucking worthless

And uhm, spectre on 1 team and sniper on other? can go both ways, it depends on the other characters, all i know is that the lane with sniper will have huge advantage because shrapnel/ranged dps is much better and synergies with others much easier than spectre, so the team with sniper can win even if they are a bit worse, given that they dont make way too many mistakes.
If you think spectre can kill sniper mid-late game when he ports near him with ulti i lol'd @ u, what kind of an idiot sniper he has to be to not move a bit?

Shrapnel > dagger, by tons
headshot > desolate , by tons
take aim = dispersion, face it - dispersion is pretty overrated. 22% isn't that much as it takes barely 1/5 times more damage to kill spectre. Instead 10 hit it takes 12, instead 5 nukes it takes 6 thats not such a huge difference is it now? And the reflect damage is *VERY* situational.
While 260 range bonus in pro gaming is 1 of the best things u can ask for
Assassinate = haunt, arguable id prefer assassinate but considering spec can be farming on the other end of the map and come in the battle i guess its not *that* bad, still, its pretty situational (as everything in dota)

ranged hero > melee
sniper's stat gain is insane > spectre's medicore stat gain
sniper has the best ranged animation > spectre's shitty hit

so yea, lol'd @ spectre worshipers who ignore the fact that his team carried him and hes just doing finishing job

most importanly: sniper can kill fountain alone, spectre can't
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Yes range in most of situations > melee , but a proper skillset balances out cons of what melee has against range.
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did you even bother reading what i wrote?

sniper's set is way more proper than spectre and his skills synergy much better than loldagger + desolate or some random crap like that ,desolate is pub skill.

Id say mortred is better than spectre in many situations, altho in pro games there are more teams suitable for spectre than mortred at this point of the game, but i believe in future people will realize that mort is good
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did you even bother reading what i wrote?

sniper's set is way more proper than spectre and his skills synergy much better than loldagger + desolate or some random crap like that ,desolate is pub skill.

Id say mortred is better than spectre in many situations, altho in pro games there are more teams suitable for spectre than mortred at this point of the game, but i believe in future people will realize that mort is good
I've stated that myself, mortred is a really good carry, especially late game when he gets the late game heroes, he is basically invisible while nearly 1hitting people. Still range is a good thing, but when the meele like mortred gets into you with the help of 1 stun its gg.
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OH LOOK SNIPER MADE THE FIRST RAMPAGE IN DOTA2 NERF PLS

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shut the hell up, just because someone is stupid or new doesn't automatically mean they are trolling. that word is thrown around so much around here it barely has any meaning anymore
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the OP post this because he failed to realize this:

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