[LIST] Overused Icons

[Grymlax]

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Status: I don't have the time or the energy to continue updating this thread. I really hope that someone will continue on this list(in your own new thread of course). feel free to base it on my list, just quote this post and paste it in your own thread and then make any alterations you seem fit.

good luck.
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I have compiled a list of all the overused icons used by heroes, units items and shops. This is simply a tool for other suggesters to look at, and see the icons that are in desperate need of changing.

If you find anything incorrect or missing, then just let me know so I can fix it. Ideas, feedback, comments and questions about the lists are more than welcommed.


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Overview of all the heroes and the number of their overused icons.

not up to date probably won update this until the pheonix is released

numbers inside of parentheses () corresponds to a number in the icon list below this list.
0 1 2 3 4 5

[1 - 38] = [Overused Hero or Item icon]
[40- 68] = [Overused Unit icon] (Less important imho)

Sentinel Strength:

Kunkka: 0 ()
Rexxar: 2 ([22][57])
Centaur Warchief: 1 ([61])
Earthshaker: 2 ([1][6,43])
Omniknight: 0 ()
Pandaren Brewmaster: 0 ()
Sven: 0 ()
Tiny: 1 ([56])
Tauren Chieftain: 0 ()
Rooftrellen: 1 ([8])


Neutral Strength:

Alchemist: 1 ([50])
Bristleback: 0 ()
Clockwerk: 2 ([38][53])
Knight Davion: 2 ([26][27])
Magnus: 2 ([6][9,43])
Huskar: 0 ()
Sand king: 2 ([1][55])
Barathrum: 0 ()
Tidehunter: 0 ()


Scourge Strength:

Axe: 2 ([10][27])
Nessaj: 0 ()
Doom Bringer: 2 ([19][29])
N'aix: 3 ([9][15][30])
Abaddon: 1 ([12])
Lycan: 1 ([11])
Balanar: 1 ([18])
Pit Lord: 1 ([19])
Pudge: 2 ([2][30])
Leoric: 1 ([34, 65])
Slardar: 0 ()
Undying: 0 ()


Sentinel Agility:

Magina: 3 ([24][32, 60][63])
Sniper: 0 ()
Yurnero: 0 ()
Syllabear: 1 ([22])
Luna: 0 ()
Morphling: 0 ()
Naga Siren: 2 ([34, 65] [67])
Phantom Lancer: 0 ()
Mirana: 1 ([8])
Rikimaru: 0 ()
Troll Warlord: 2 ([10][49])


Neutral Agility:

Gondar: 1 ([5, 33, 41])
Traxex: 1 ([62])
Faceless Void: 0 ()
Geomancer: 2 ([20][48])
Razor: 1 ([36])
Medusa: 1 ([24])
Lanaya: 1 ([21])
Ursa: 2 ([1][23])
Vengeful spirit: 2 ([11][68])
Slark: 1 ([20])


Scourge Agility:

Strygwyr: 0 ()
Clinkz: 2 ([5, 33, 41][25])
Broodmother: 1 ([29])
Nerubian Assasin: 2 ([5, 33, 41][64])
Nerubian Weaver: 2 ([14][31])
Mortred: 0 ()
Nevermore: 2 ([12][54])
Terrorblade: 0 ()
Spectre: 1 ([47])
Venomancer: 2 ([26][40])
Viper: 3 ([7][13, 44][26])


Sentinel Intelligence:

Rylai: 0 ()
Enchantress: 1 ([7, 44])
Puck: 1 ([4])
Chen: 1 ([52])
Ezalor: 2 ([3][21])
Zeus: 0 ()
Furion: 0 ()
Silencer: 0 ()
Slayer: 2 ([4][25])
Storm Spirit: 1 ([4])
Windrunner: 1 ([46])


Neutral Intelligence:

Batrider: 2 ([16][31])
Techies: 0 ()
Invoker: 5 ([3][14][17][28][37])
Visage: 0 ()
Ogremagi: 1 ([23])
Dazzle: 0 ()
Rhasta: 2 ([16][35])
Tinker: 2 ([38][59])
Leshrak: 1 ([1])
Jakiro: 1 ([17])
Witch Doctor: 0 ()
Kaldr: 0 ()


Scourge Intelligence:

Atropos: 2 ([42][58])
Dark Seer: 0 ()
Krobelus: 0 ()
Lion: 2 ([2][35])
Enigma: 1 ([45])
Lich: 1 ([66])
Necrolyte: 1 ([15])
Pugna: 1 ([3])
Obsidian Destroyer: 0 ()
Akasha: 4 ([13][18][32, 60][52])
Warlock: 0 ()

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Abilities written in green indicates that they are based on a WC3 ladder ability sharing the same name and icon.
Additional info about an ability is written with red text inside of square brackets [like this]


Identical Hero Ability Icons:

1. 4x: Echoslam(Earth Shaker), Epicenter(Sand King), EarthShock(Ursa), Split Earth(Leshrak)
2. 3x:Burrowstrike(Sandking) , Meat Hook(Pudge), Impale(Lion)
3. 3x: Illuminate(Ezalor), Wex(Invoker), Nether Blast(Pugna)
4. 3x: Laguna Blade(Slayer), Electric Vortex(Storm Spirit), Dream Coil(Puck)
5. 2x: Vendetta(Nerubian Assassin), 2x: Wind Walk(Gondar, Clinkz)
6. 2x: Fissure(Earthshaker), Shockwave(Magnus)
7. 2x: Corrosive Skin(Viper), Untouchable(Enchantress)
8. 2x: Nature's Guise(Rooftrellen), Moonlight Shadow(Mirana)
9. 2x: Empower(Magnus), Open Wounds(N'aix)
10. 2x: Culling Blade(Axe), Berserker Rage(Troll Warlord)
11. 2x: Howl(Lycanthrope), Wave of Terror(Vengeful Spirit)
12. 2x: Shadowraze(Nevermore), Death Coil(Abaddon)
13. 2x: Viper Strike(Viper), Shadow Strike(Akasha)
14. 2x: Time Lapse(Nerubian Weaver), Quas(Invoker)
15. 2x: Infest(N'aix), Sadist(Necrolyte)
16. 2x: Flaming Lasso(Batrider), Shackles(Rhasta)
17. 2x: Icewall(Invoker), Ice Path(Jakiro)
18. 2x: Crippling Fear(Balanar), Scream of Pain(Akasha)
19. 2x: Expulsion(Pit Lord), Scorched Earth(Doom Bringer)
20. 2x: Flak Cannon(Gyrocopter), Shrapnel(Sniper)
21. 2x: Call Down(Gyrocopter), Heat Seeking Missile(Tinker)
22. 2x: Rocket Barrage(Gyrocopter), Battery Assault(ClockWerk Goblin)
23. 2x: Blinding Light[extra ability to Spirit Form](Ezalor), Trap[extra ability to Psionic Trap](Lanaya)
24. 2x: Primal Roar(Rexxar), Battle Cry[extra ability to True Form](SyllaBear)
25. 2x: Bloodlust(Ogre Magi), Overpower(Ursa)
    
    
    
    
    Hero ability Icons With Different Borders:
    
26. Mana Shield(Medusa), Spell Shield(Magina)
27. Dragon Slave(Slayer), Searing Arrows(Clinkz)
28. Poison Nova(Venomancer), Nethertoxin(Viper), Corrosive Breath [extra ability to Elder Dragon form level 1](Davion)
29. Battle Hunger(Axe), Dragon Blood(Davion)
30. Deafening Blast(Invoker), Essence Shift(Slark)
31. Devour(Doom Bringer), Incapacitating Bite(Brood Mother)
32. Dismember(Pudge),Feast(N'aix)
33. Sticky Napalm(Batrider), Geminate Attack(Nerubian Weaver)
    
    
    
    Overused ability names: (sharing the same icon)
    
34. 2x: Blink(Magina), Blink(Akasha)
35. 2x: Wind Walk(Gondar), Wind Walk(Clinkz)
36. 2x: Critical Strike(Leoric), Critical Strike(Naga Siren)
37. 2x: Voodoo(Rhasta), Voodoo(Lion)
    
    
    
    Abilitys/Heroes/Items sharing the same icons:
    
38. 2x: Razor(Hero), Wraith Band(Item)
39. 2x: Exort(Invoker), Perseverance(Item)
40. 2x: Venomous Gale(Venomancer), Orb of Venom(Item)
    
    
    
    Shops:
41. 2x: Protectorate (shop), Supportive Vestments (shop)
    
    Screenshot included for this one in case someone does not understand what icon I am refering to.
    
    
    
    
    
    due to alot of requests I've decided to do this category aswell (work in progress)
    Unit abilities sharing icons with hero abilities:
    
42. 4x: Envenomed Weapons(Gnoll Assassin), Quilbeast Poison (Quilbeast, Greater Quilbeast), Poison Sting(Spiderling), Poison Sting(Venomancer)
43. 4x: Invisibility(Greater Hawk), Windwalk(Storm), Vendetta(Nerubian Assassin), 2x: Wind Walk(Gondar, Clinkz)
44. 3x: Infestation (Scarab), Last Will (Necromicon Warrior), Fiend's Grip(Atropos)
45. 3x: Shockwave(Satyr Hellcaller), Fissure(Earthshaker), Shockwave(Magnus)
46. 3x: Spell Immunity (Living Dead, Tombstone lvl 1-4, Power Cog, Scarab), Corrosive Skin(Viper), Untouchable(Enchantress)
47. 2x: Spell Immunity (Flying courier), Black Hole(Enigma)
48. 2x: Cyclone(Storm lvl 1-4), Windrunner(Windrunner)
49. 2x Resistent skin (Earth, Storm, Fire, Infernal, Spirit Bear, Dominated Creeps), Dispersion(spectre)
50. 2x: Dispel Magic(Storm lvl 1-4), Poof(Geomancer)
51. 2x: Endurance Aura(Centaur Khan), Fervor(Troll Warlord)
52. 2x: Necromicon Endurance Aura (Necromicon Archer), Unstable Concoction (Alchemist)
53. 2x: Heal(Forest Troll High Priest), Hand of God(Chen)
54. 2x: Tornado (Enraged Wildkin), Sonic Wave(Akasha)
55. 2x: Melting Strike(Forged Spirit), Rocket Flare(ClockWerk Goblin)
56. 2x: Nether Ward(Nether Ward 1-4), Presence of the Dark Lord(Nevermore)
57. 2x: Death Strike (Living Dead), Caustic Finale(Sand King)
58. 2x: Hurl Boulder(Earth lvl 1-4), Avalanch(Tiny)
59. 2x: Burst(Flying Courier), Call of the Wild(Rexxar)
60. 2x: Change Courier type(Animal Courier), Nightmare(Atropos)
61. 2x: Disassemble(Animal Courier, Flying Courier, Circle of Power), Rearm(Tinker)
62. 2x: Return(Spirit Bear lvl 2-4), Blink(Magina, Akasha)
63. 2x: Warstomp(Centaur Khan), Hoofstomp(Centaur Warchief)
64. 2x: Frost Attack(Ghost), Frost Arrows(Traxex)
65. 2x: Necromicon Mana Break (Necromicon Warrior), Mana Break(Magina)
66. 2x: Mana Burn (Satyr Soulstealer, Necromicon Archer), Mana Burn(Nerubian Assassin)
67. 2x:Critical Strike(Giant Wolf, Alpha Wolf, Lycantrophy Wolf lvl 2-4), Critical Strike (Leoric, Naga Siren)
68. 2x: Frost Armor (Ogre Magi the neutral creep), Frost Armor(Lich)
69. 2x: Ensnare(Dark Troll Warlord), Ensnare(Naga Siren)
70. 2x: Command Aura(Alpha Wolf), Command Aura(Vengeful Spirit)
71. 2x: Chain Lightning(Harpy Storm), Arc Lightning(Zeus)
72. 2x: Ice Blast(Unit/ability missile), Bloodstone(item)
73. 2x: Rocket Flare(Unit/ability missile), Elune's Arrow(Mirana)

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Changelog

Version 6.65

Overused Icons Replaced

[IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/79/skill-0.jpg]Impale[/URL](Nerubian Assasin)
Old Icon still used by:
Burrowstrike(Sandking) , Meat Hook(Pudge), Impale(Lion)

Exorcism(Krobelus)
Old Icon still used by:
Brain Sap(Atropos) (the icon is now unique and has been removed from the list)

Death Ward(Witch Doctor)
Old Icon still used by:
Stasis Trap(Techies), (the icon is now unique and has been removed from the list)

Crystal Nova(Rylai)
Old Icon still used by:
Frost Nova(Lich) (the icon is now unique and has been removed from the list)

Blink Strike(Rikimaru)
Old Icon still used by:
Phantom Strike(Mortred), Reality Rift(Chaos Knight)

Blink Strike(Chaos Knight), replaced with Reality Rift(Chaos Knight) It has therefore been removed from "Overused ability names: (sharing the same icon)"

Enchant(Enchantress)
Old Icon still used by:
Poof(Geomancer),(the icon is now unique and has been removed from the list)

Essence Aura(Obsidian Destroyer)
Old Icon still used by:
Deafening Blast(Invoker), Essence Shift(Slark)

Juxtapose(Phantom Lancer)
Old Icon still used by:
Recall[extra ability to Spirit Form](Ezalor) (the icon is now unique and has been removed from the list)

Time Lock(Faceless Void)
Old Icon still used by:
Bash[extra ability to Berserker Rage](Troll Warlord) (the icon is now unique and has been removed from the list)

Reaper's Scythe(Necrolyte)
Old Icon still used by:
Guinsoos Scythe of Vyse(Item) (the icon is now unique and has been removed from the list)

Malefice(Enigma)
Old Icon still used by:
Spectre(Hero) (the icon is now unique and has been removed from the list)

Tornado(Invoker)
Old icon still Used by:
Windrunner(Windrunner) (the icon is now unique and has been removed from the list)

Track(Gondar)
Old Icon Still Used by
X Marks The Spot(Kunkka) (the icon is now unique and has been removed from the list)

Soul Assumption(Visage)
Old Icon still used by:
Vladmirs Offering(Item) (the icon is now unique and has been removed from the list)

Overused Icons Added

2x: Earthbind(Geomancer), Pounce(Slark)

Version 6.67

Overused Icons Replaced

Torrent (Kunkka)
Old Icon still used by:
Spell Shield(Magina) , Mana Shield(Medusa)


Reality Rift(Nessaj)
Old Icon still used by:
Phantom Strike(Mortred) (the icon is now unique and has been removed from the list)

Version 6.68

Overused Icons Replaced

Overused Icons Added

asd

Version 6.69

Not released

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[jawawaQ]

Nice compilation.

[thoby123]

Great work, sticky please

[AbyssPetra]

Phantom Strike aint same

All 3 wind walks are different. same icon tho ):

BH: Bonus DMG
Bone: Bonus MS
NA: Both

[kanzakill]

Why not link all suggestions about those overused icons here? Or even better, make this thread a mass suggestions pool.

[Maya]

Critical Strike is also used by Phantom Assassin, by Juggernaut and by Chaos Knight. And you can include Brewmaster and Bounty Hunter as well.

[Rubn]

Originally Posted by Maya

Critical Strike is also used by Phantom Assassin, by Juggernaut and by Chaos Knight. And you can include Brewmaster and Bounty Hunter as well.

They don't talk about the skills they talk about the icons.
And Brewmaster's and Bounty Hunter's skill are both based on drunken doge not on critical strike

[Zirath]

Originally Posted by Maya

Critical Strike is also used by Phantom Assassin, by Juggernaut and by Chaos Knight. And you can include Brewmaster and Bounty Hunter as well.

We're trying to eliminate overused icons, not overused abilities. Everyone has a slightly different Critical Strike, numberwise.

In either case, a number of the icons have suggestions to be replaced anyways.

[Cp6uja]

Really nice work. I added[LIST] at thread tag, so users can know its a list instead of sugg.

[JJE92]

Good work. Now we just need icons to replace them

[Grymlax]

Thanks for the comments guys, and the[List] tag Cp6uja_.

Originally Posted by AbyssPetra

Phantom Strike aint same

I know and becouse of that I made an update to the list. Now vendetta and phantom strike are listed in the first section which means that wind walk and blinkstrike are mentioned twice, but this seems like the most logical way of doing it.

Originally Posted by JJE92

Good work. Now we just need icons to replace them

Yes we do, so get to it people

[Zirath]

Check the Giant Compilation thread HoOf made so we can filter the icons that still need to be replaced. All of the Compilation icons are great so it would be easier to work from there.

[Grymlax]

Originally Posted by Zirath

Check the Giant Compilation thread HoOf made so we can filter the icons that still need to be replaced. All of the Compilation icons are great so it would be easier to work from there.

well I wont remove any icons from this list untill IceFrog has replaced them in dota. what i can do is put a question mark after an abilitys name with a link to any good suggestions you find. However when i link to the Giant Icons List Compliation thread you would have to scroll for a while (or use [CTRL + F]) to find the suggested icon. it could look like this.


2x: Voodoo(Rhasta), Voodoo[?](Lion)

[Zirath]

Originally Posted by Grymlax

well I wont remove any icons from this list untill IceFrog has replaced them in dota. what i can do is put a question mark after an abilitys name with a link to any good suggestions you find. However when i link to the Giant Icons List Compliation thread you would have to scroll for a while (or use [CTRL + F]) to find the suggested icon. it could look like this.


2x: Voodoo(Rhasta), Voodoo[?](Lion)

I'm just saying that you should indicate the ones that already have good replacements so you can concentrate on ones that have not been considered yet.

[Faek]

Perhaps you should add Storm panda's (Pandaren Brewmaster's ult) Dispel to the list (same as Enchant). Nice compilation

[Uncle_Zhuge]

This truly deserves a sticky. Seeing identical icons sometimes confuses me. Hopefully icon makers can focus on these icons first. ^^

[[SOM]Js]

u missed 1 more... vendetta on nerubian....

[Grymlax]

Originally Posted by somwk

u missed 1 more... vendetta on nerubian....

It's in the first list. Windwalk and blinkstrike are mentioned twice.

[L.e.o]

Grymlax (since I am lazy), can I suggest you a minor thingy:
Indicate(colour) the 100% most fitting skills.
I mean:
This is 100% Falming Laso, right? Then Rhasta shakels needs the new icon...
100% Mana Shield ...
100% Searing Arrow...
I mean, if one icon is used by 2 or more skills, indicate the one which truly fits with that icon.(many of the duplicates are questionable though)

[Grymlax]

Originally Posted by L.e.o

Grymlax (since I am lazy), can I suggest you a minor thingy:
Indicate(colour) the 100% most fitting skills.
I mean:
This is 100% Falming Laso, right? Then Rhasta shakels needs the new icon...
100% Mana Shield ...
100% Searing Arrow...
I mean, if one icon is used by 2 or more skills, indicate the one which truly fits with that icon.(many of the duplicates are questionable though)

Well I did something similar to your request. insted of marking out the most fitting, i marked out abilities that share name and icon with ladder abilities. I am trying to stay objective and can therefore not list the icons that's most fitting in my opinion. For example could some people argue with you saying that the flaming lasso icon fits better with shackle since it was originally used in the wc3 ability Aerial Shackle