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Old 09-02-2011, 11:36 AM   #1
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Neichus' Wand

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A powerful wand that disrupts the teamwork and synergies between enemy heroes.

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+10 Attribute+15 Attribute
+450HP+550HP
+400MP+500MP
+4HP/sec regeneration+6HP/sec regeneration
+100% mana regeneration150% mana regeneration
-Disrupt(active)
Disrupt(active)
  • Target an enemy hero.Wait 1.5 seconds to apply it on the targeted hero.Has a visual on the targeted enemy.
  • All AoE skills(including items)that enemy hero used will apply it on their allied units too.
  • All aura(received from item and skills) from the targeted hero is disable for 8 seconds.
  • Manacost is 200. Cooldown is 140seconds.Disrupt buff lasts for 8.0 seconds.Has 450 Cast Range.
  • If there are enemy heroes or units died because of the targeted's damage dealt, bearer counted as a killer and receive normal bounty .
  • Example: If Lion casts Impale on the targeting ground and his allied units are also on the targeted ground, they will also be damaged and stunned.
  • Example2: If tauren is targeted , his Natural order will be disable for 10 seconds.


2/9/2011-Nerfed the chances of dissipation to 10% instead of 20%
3/9/2011-Change recipe and rework and remove skill.Add tab for giving information.
4/9/2011-Improve some bonus gave.And nerf the cooldown to 140seconds.
7/9/2011-The buff last for 8seconds instead of 10 seconds.

Visual effect should look like this(more smaller and only appear on top of targeted head:
by Frankster Nuke Aura of Pwn - The Hive Workshop

ProsCons
1) Can disrupt enemy heroes teamwork. A very situational item.
2) A counter-item to nukers.Too expensive
3)Provide good bonus.Had a long cooldown


SkillsSkill's Name
Kunkka:Torrent,Tidebringer,Ghostship
Beast Master:Wild Axe.Primary Roar
Centaur:Hoof Stomp
Earthshaker:Fissure,Echo Slam
Omniknight:Purification
Pandaran:Thunder Clap
Sven:Storm Bolt
Tiny:Avalanche,Toss
Tauren:Echo Stomp,Ancestral Spirit,Earth Splitter
Treant:Overgrowth
Alchemist:Unstable Concoction
Clockwerk:Baterry Assault,Rocket Flare
DragonKnight:Breathe Fire
Bristleback:Quill Spray
Phoenix:Icarus Dive,Sun Ray
Tuskarr:Ice Shard,Snowball,Fozen Sigil
Axe:Counter Helix
Doom:Scorched Earth
Lord of Avernus:Aphotic Shield
Pitlord:Fire storm,Pit of malice
Butcher:Rot
Sladar:Slithereen Crush
Undyingecay,Tombstone
 
Tidehunter:Anchor Smash,Ravage
Magnataur:Shockwave,Skewer,Reverse Polarity
Sandking:Burrowstrike,Sand Storm,Epicenter
 



SkillsSkills name
Antimage:Mana Void
Sniper:Srapnel
Yurnero:Blade Fury, Omnislash
Morphing:Waveform
Rip Tide,Song of siren
Mirana:Starfall
Rikimaru:Smoke Screen
Troll:Whirling Axe
Gyrocopter:Rocket Barrage,Flak Cannon,Call Dwon
Drow:Silence
Templar Assasin:Psi Trap
Ursa:Earth Shock
Vs:Wave of terror
Nerubian Assassin:Impale,Urna Swarm
Weawer:The swarm,Shukuchi
Shadow Fiend: Shadowraze,Requiem of soul
Soul Keeper:Refraction
Venomancer:Venomous Gale,Poison Nova
Geomancer:Earth Bind,Poofs
Razor:Plasma Field
Slackark Pact
Faceless Void:Time walk
Gorgon:Split Shot,Stone Gaze



SkillsSkill's Name
CM:Crystal Nova,Freezing Field
Puck:Illusory Orb,Waning Rift,Dream Coil
Keeper of Light:Illuminate
Silencer:Curse of Silence
Slayer: Dragon salve,Light Strike Array
Storm:Static Remnant,Overload,Ball lightning
Windrunner:Powershot,Windrunner
Thrall:Thunder Strike,Kinetic Field,Static Storm
Orge Magi:Ignite
Goblin:Land mines,Statis Trap,Sucide Squad Attack!,Remote Mines
Jakiro:Dual Breathe,Ice Path,Liquid Fire,Macropyre
Tinker:March of machines
Rubick:Telekinesis
Dark Seer:Vaccum,Ion Shell
Death Prophet:Carrion Swarm,Silence
Lion:Impale
Enigma:Midnight Pulse,Dark Hole
Lich:Frost Nova,Chain Frost
Pugna:Nether Blast
Destroyer: Sanity's Eclipse
Akasha:Scream of pain,Sonic wave
Warlock:Fatal Bond,Upheaval,Rain of Chaos
Eredar:Soul Catcher,Shadow Poison
Batrider:Sticky Napalm,Flamebreak,Firefly
Invoke skill's
Tormented Soul:Split Earth,Diabolic Edict,Lightning Storm,Pulse Nova
Witch Doctor:Paralyzing Cask,Maledict
AA:Ice Vortex,Ice blast


Item IconItem name
Shiva
Veil of Discord
Radiance




Skill/Item iconSkill/Item Name
Degen Aura
Living Armor
Empowering Haste
Luna's Blessing
Trueshot Aura
Command Aura
Presence of the dark lord
Brilliance Aura
Last Word
Null Field
HeartStopper Aura
Essence Aura
Positive/Negative Armor Aura , AS Aura
Freezing Aura
Mekansm Aura
Vampiric Aura,Damage Aura,Armor Aura,Mana Degeneration Aura
Mana/Armor Aura
Regeneration Aura
Endurance Aura
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Old 09-02-2011, 11:58 AM   #2
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Imba, IMO...
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:05 PM   #3
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Was about to say this was uncodable.. but it's not, just need a dummy unit to get the same level of ability as a cast ability not targeting a unit, and then make the dummy unit cast from the same point as enemy hero, at the same point. It'd miss a bunch of stuff, plus if you cast direct on a unit, but it'd work.

Not sure how balanced it is, but it's actually a pretty nice idea.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:43 PM   #4
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Imba, IMO...
Really ?? Nvm , i will see others comments as well...if it really imba i will try to nerf it . Anyway thx for your comment ^^

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Was about to say this was uncodable.. but it's not, just need a dummy unit to get the same level of ability as a cast ability not targeting a unit, and then make the dummy unit cast from the same point as enemy hero, at the same point. It'd miss a bunch of stuff, plus if you cast direct on a unit, but it'd work.

Not sure how balanced it is, but it's actually a pretty nice idea.
Then it is codeable , that great. And thx for your comment ^^
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:01 PM   #5
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Would like to see Tidehunter getting owned
Also some strange things will happen with Enigma duh?

OT: Item seems balanced. Passive skill looks cool, very original, but a little cruel number there. Increasing to 15% would be ok IMO. Also, this item is too good. It needs a bigger recipe cost since it is so powerful.

Also, I corrected some grammar issues with it. Here you go:

[nqb][center][IMG]http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/resource_images/13/icons_12747_btn.jpg[/IMG]

[b][color="lightblue"][size="3"]Neichus' Wand[/size][/color][/b]

[IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/site/coin.jpg[/IMG][b][color="white"]4755[/color][/b]

[color="orange"]Bought from :[/color]
[color="lightblue"][IMG]http://media.playdota.com/site/items/c2.gif[/IMG][/color]

[I]A powerful wand that disrupts the teamwork and synergies between enemy heroes.[/I][/center]

[IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/site/recipe.jpg[/IMG][indent][table][IMG]http://media.playdota.com/items/90/icon.jpg[/IMG]|[color="white"]Oblivion Staff[/color] [color="lightblue"](1675)[/color]
[IMG]http://media.playdota.com/items/42/icon.jpg[/IMG]|[color="white"]Ultimate Orb[/color] [color="lightblue"](2100)[/color]
[IMG]http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/resource_images/13/icons_12747_btn.jpg[/IMG]|[color="white"]Recipes[/color] [color="lightblue"](1000)[/color]
[/table][/indent][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/site/bonus.jpg[/IMG][indent][table][color="lightblue"][b][center]Old[/center][/b][/color]|[color="lightblue"][b][center]New[/center][/b][/color]
+10 Attribute|[color="white"]+10 Attribute[/color]
+6 Intelligence|[color="white"]+6 Intelligence[/color]
+10 Attack Speed|[color="red"]REMOVE[/color]
+15 Damage|[color="white"]+15 damage[/color]
+75% mana regeneration|[color="white"]100% mana regeneration[/color]
-|[color="white"]Disrupt(active)[/color]
-|[color="white"]Dissipation(passive)[/color][/table][/indent]
[IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/site/addinfo.jpg[/IMG][indent][color="white"][b]Disrupt(active)[/b][/color][list][*]Targets an enemy hero. All damage done by the hero is spread to all his allied heroes in 600AoE.[*]Last for 4 seconds. Cooldown is 25 seconds. Manacost is 100.[*]Damage type can be mixed. It depends on the targeted hero.[/list][color="white"][b]Dissipation(passive)[/b][/color][list][*]All AoE skills that enemy heroes used will have 10% chances to apply it on their allied units too.[*]This aura has 800 AoE. The chances will not stack with another Neichus' Wand.[*][I]Example: If Lion casts Impale on the targeting ground and his allied units are also on the targeted ground, they will also be damaged and stunned.[/I][/list][/indent][/nqb]
[spoiler=changelog]
2/9/2011-Nerfed the chances of dissipation to 10% instead of 20%[/spoiler]

[table][COLOR="Lime"]Pros[/COLOR]|[COLOR="Red"]Cons[/COLOR]
1) Can disrupt enemy heroes teamwork. |A very situational item.
2) A counter-item to nukers.[/table]



Neichus' Wand

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A powerful wand that disrupts the teamwork and synergies between enemy heroes.

Oblivion Staff (1675)
Ultimate Orb (2100)
Recipes (1000)
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+10 Attribute+10 Attribute
+6 Intelligence+6 Intelligence
+10 Attack SpeedREMOVE
+15 Damage+15 damage
+75% mana regeneration100% mana regeneration
-Disrupt(active)
-Dissipation(passive)
Disrupt(active)
  • Targets an enemy hero. All damage done by the hero is spread to all his allied heroes in 600AoE.
  • Last for 4 seconds. Cooldown is 25 seconds. Manacost is 100.
  • Damage type can be mixed. It depends on the targeted hero.
Dissipation(passive)
  • All AoE skills that enemy heroes used will have 10% chances to apply it on their allied units too.
  • This aura has 800 AoE. The chances will not stack with another Neichus' Wand.
  • Example: If Lion casts Impale on the targeting ground and his allied units are also on the targeted ground, they will also be damaged and stunned.


2/9/2011-Nerfed the chances of dissipation to 10% instead of 20%


ProsCons
1) Can disrupt enemy heroes teamwork. A very situational item.
2) A counter-item to nukers. 


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Old 09-02-2011, 03:37 PM   #6
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^ Thx for your help D-REZ ^^
My english still sucks. Hahaha...

OT: I nerf it to 10% cause it will be very imba since all aoe skill will be affected by enemy's allies units too. And thx so much for liking my item ^^
Anyways , thx for comment and ur suggestion ^^
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:44 PM   #7
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I will T-Up for the concept. Veterans and newbies should know Neichus and be acknowledged as one of the (good) developers of DotA. He should at least receive the same honor as Eul and Guinsoo because imho he earned it well.
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:47 PM   #8
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Denki T-uped your suggestion=Auto-applied
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Old 09-02-2011, 06:13 PM   #9
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At first, it seemed imba, but then the price, and stuff...anyways, pretty neat item, was needed :P Plus, it honors Neichus, so, t-up.
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:55 AM   #10
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I will T-Up for the concept. Veterans and newbies should know Neichus and be acknowledged as one of the (good) developers of DotA. He should at least receive the same honor as Eul and Guinsoo because imho he earned it well.
Thx for ur comment ^^
But only the concept is good what about the item itself?? You can give suggestion to me so that i can improves my item ^^


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At first, it seemed imba, but then the price, and stuff...anyways, pretty neat item, was needed :P Plus, it honors Neichus, so, t-up.
Thx for your positive feedback ^^
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Old 09-03-2011, 03:56 AM   #11
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I don't get what you mean by "It depends on targeted hero."
The idea is original and interesting, but the recipe is too cheap for such a nice item. Either change the recipe (maybe add some unused items) or increase recipe price.
T-Up, btw.
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Old 09-03-2011, 04:41 AM   #12
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I don't get what you mean by "It depends on targeted hero."
The idea is original and interesting, but the recipe is too cheap for such a nice item. Either change the recipe (maybe add some unused items) or increase recipe price.
T-Up, btw.
"It depends on targeted hero."
Its mean when the targeted hero dealt physical damage , the type of damage spread is physical. If the targeted hero dealt magical or pure damage , the type of damage is magical or pure.
And the targeted hero will not receive the spread damage,it only spread between the enemy's allies heroes in 600 Aoe.
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Old 09-03-2011, 04:58 AM   #13
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1st skill is 100% Fatal Bounds. It's imba and not so original. Mb make damage split on all heroes with dealing extra damage.
2nd skill is pretty nice. But chance is to week. Mb make it 20-25%
Why you remove attack speed bonus? It's not so strong to be removed.
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1st skill is 100% Fatal Bounds. It's imba and not so original. Mb make damage split on all heroes with dealing extra damage.
2nd skill is pretty nice. But chance is to week. Mb make it 20-25%
Why you remove attack speed bonus? It's not so strong to be removed.
1st skill is will try to change it or tweak it as fast as possible ^^
About the 2nd skill , i change it to 10% because i scare it will be too IMBA since all aoe skill are powerful. Imagine if CM use Freezing Field and this skill is triggered, all CM's allies heroes( which i assume that all of them are beside each others) will receive massive damage and slow. Ok...maybe i change to 13%...
Anyway thx for suggestion ^^
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:14 AM   #15
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Nice item, really like the icon for this. Bonuses are fine, but disrupt may be a teeny bit imba imo. Nice tho, see if you can propose this item here: http://www.playdota.com/forums/52038...em-makers-all/
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Old 09-03-2011, 01:14 PM   #16
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Seems really strong. I really don't have much to say tbh.
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Old 09-03-2011, 01:20 PM   #17
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Dissipation uncodeable. You can't test source of damage. And to list all AoE skills is a pain.

Also, massively overpowered. T-Down.
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:29 PM   #18
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Not bad...a bit strong but we need items like this in-game...
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:30 PM   #19
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If Dissipation is uncodable how Pipe works?
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Old 09-03-2011, 03:27 PM   #20
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If Dissipation is uncodable how Pipe works?
It blocks a specific amount of magical damage, whether AoE or single target spells.
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