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Old 09-03-2011, 04:38 PM   #1
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First of all everyone that had watch The International would have know that LAN function was removed/not added into Dota 2. Many players are complaining of how lag it would be and etc etc. I have thought of the main reason why lan is not added into Dota 2. To prevent piracy, because if lan was added... Dota 2 would just be like WCIII, pirated. And icefrog/valve would not be earning money..

Tl;dr ; would you want the LAN function or not?
 
Old 09-03-2011, 04:41 PM   #2
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nobody that buys dota 2 would have a shitty internet connection... so, no, i dont want lan.
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Old 09-03-2011, 04:43 PM   #3
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I'm reminding you - it's still beta.
All of the valve games have a LAN option, why wouldn't dota2 have?
Inb4 l4d doesn't, yes it does.
 
Old 09-03-2011, 04:44 PM   #4
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nobody that buys dota 2 would have a shitty internet connection... so, no, i dont want lan.
wrong.
i plan to buy it and i have a shitty internet connection.
and i want lan. or atleast a nearby server to my location.
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Lan for offline play with (poor/testing/dontlikesteam) friends
REquires a legit copy to play online
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Old 09-03-2011, 04:46 PM   #6
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I'm reminding you - it's still beta.
All of the valve games have a LAN option, why wouldn't dota2 have?
Inb4 l4d doesn't, yes it does.
If you do take the time to read the post.. You would see that having no LAN function would prevent piracy. Yes it does. Valve would not wanna see their other games getting pirated
 
Old 09-03-2011, 04:49 PM   #7
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Erik Johnson already said there will be LAN
stop spreading false informations
 
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Online Lan
 
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It will get pirated with or without LAN eh..
Just enable LAN to get the consumers happy.
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Old 09-03-2011, 04:54 PM   #10
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It will get pirated with or without LAN eh..
Just enable LAN to get the consumers happy.
If there is no lan and it get's pirated... what do they wanna do? they cant play online nor they can play single player... i doubt that there will be single player
 
Old 09-03-2011, 05:06 PM   #11
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If you do take the time to read the post.. You would see that having no LAN function would prevent piracy. Yes it does. Valve would not wanna see their other games getting pirated
Do you think Valve really cares about 5% of the playerbase pirating the game? Even if it was ten times my estimated amount I don't think they would.
 
Old 09-03-2011, 05:06 PM   #12
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People that want to pirate it will just make private servers if there is no LAN functionality.
If someone really wants to pirate software it's next to impossible to stop them. So why piss of paying customers by not including LAN functionality.

As well as I was under the impression that LAN was announced for Dota 2.
 
Old 09-03-2011, 05:06 PM   #13
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nobody that buys dota 2 would have a shitty internet connection... so, no, i dont want lan.
You may have the best connection in the world, but that doesn't mean the servers will be stable all the time.

I wouldn't mind Valve making us connect to the Valve servers via internet to play the game, but a lan option after that will be nice.
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If there is no lan and it get's pirated... what do they wanna do? they cant play online nor they can play single player... i doubt that there will be single player
You are underestimating the power of some hackers. Even with a cracked WCIII, some people are able to access BNET and create a different server there. Since you lived in Singapore, do you know what is blueserver? You should if you've been playing long enough.

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You may have the best connection in the world, but that doesn't mean the servers will be stable all the time.

I wouldn't mind Valve making us connect to the Valve servers via internet to play the game, but a lan option after that will be nice.
And the ability to self host would be nice



@OP : You're too naive to think disabling LAN would stop all piracy.
 
Old 09-03-2011, 05:17 PM   #15
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I think a good strategy would be to add LAN after 6-12 month without announcing it so that most people have already bought the game before.
 
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@OP : You're too naive to think disabling LAN would stop all piracy.
That's what i meant. Tho i'm pretty sure Erik said there will be LAN.
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:28 PM   #17
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they said theyre not scared of piracy
too lazy to look up source
 
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no lan
 
Old 09-03-2011, 05:45 PM   #19
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WHY AGAINST LAN?????
it's really helpfull with tournements (LAN tournements, if u ever ehard for them)
so why would some1 pay net usage jsut beacuse u have inhouse LAn tour????
so yeah, BIG t-up for LAN
and for piracy, i dont get what piracy u can make with lan?
u still need key to install dota2
 
Old 09-03-2011, 06:05 PM   #20
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LAN ofcource ...
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That's what i meant. Tho i'm pretty sure Erik said there will be LAN.
Offline play =/= Lan
 
Old 09-03-2011, 06:38 PM   #22
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FU#$!% that AI players if there's not gonna be single player and LAN function.
More than 1 bil. people need them.
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As the matter of fact it would stop pirating to an extent, although saying it would prevent it to the full effect is like reading Cp6uja say SCII wasn't pirated...

I personally find no use to LAN and I would be just happier without it, but I wouldn't die if VALVe did add it, I won't be doing anything with that anyway. Makes me wonder how many people want to use tournaments as a reason for LAN, I don't think LAN makes such a big difference anyway.
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Give LAN please kthnx.
 
Old 09-03-2011, 07:28 PM   #25
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WHY AGAINST LAN?????
it's really helpfull with tournements (LAN tournements, if u ever ehard for them)
so why would some1 pay net usage jsut beacuse u have inhouse LAn tour????
so yeah, BIG t-up for LAN
and for piracy, i dont get what piracy u can make with lan?
u still need key to install dota2
Ever heard of crack?

No, not the harden form of cocaine.
 
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removing lan wont stop crackers to piracy any game, nor make the pirated copies unplayable in any circumstance.
if you think i'm wrong just give me one example of a game that stopped piracy by removing lan.
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Actually I think the stated reason for online play was the broadcasting mechanism being incompatible with LAN play. Anyway, all valve (source engine based) games support LAN natively, at worst you can always just pull down console and write join <LAN IP adress>.
 
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STARCRAFT 2 = NO LAN = NO PIRACY (singleplayer piracy = shit)

PROBLEM? wannalanfaggots?
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Its true, LAN support is built into the source engine by default.
 
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I can't believe you people don't think of all the netcafes and moreover of a lot of countries in which LAN play is the rule. Remove it from the game, lose half the player base - 100%.
It's not about piracy, it's about a feature that is needed for an esport to bloom, and especially for Dota 2 since the original relied on LAN heavily. And don't tell me SC2 was a success, of course it was, but I'm fairly sure the lack of LAN hurt the sales.

And anyway, it's a pointless debate, like #29 says, LAN is hardcoded in Source engine. I don't think they're that retarded to somehow remove the feature.
 
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If Dota 2 has no LAN, don't expect it to be as big as DotA.
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If Dota 2 has no LAN, don't expect it to be as big as DotA.
Agreed.
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It is still beta and its not mentioned by valve that there wont be lan play. Also i dont want to give 40 euro on dota 2 or play via steam just because they jerk off at valve.
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STARCRAFT 2 = NO LAN = NO PIRACY (singleplayer piracy = shit)

PROBLEM? wannalanfaggots?
We have SCII piracy over here. Also, it's able to go online and play at Bnet2.0 too
Problem, LAN haters?
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We have SCII piracy over here. Also, it's able to go online and play at Bnet2.0 too
Problem, LAN haters?
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This is what VALVe has to say about DRM and piracy.
 
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Alright, since piracy isn't an issue for VALVe, then just give us LAN
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well. i guess it is true what they say about piracy..

as long as valve´s matchmaking and service will be top notch,

**** u pirates.

people that play only cracked version should not have the chance to go to any tournament, or professional clan or other service
 
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Actually I think the stated reason for online play was the broadcasting mechanism being incompatible with LAN play. Anyway, all valve (source engine based) games support LAN natively, at worst you can always just pull down console and write join <LAN IP adress>.
Do you broadcast your own little LANparties as well?
 
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There is LAN. I've read it at a number of places. OP is misinformed. You will of course need Steam though and Steam is a pain to run in offline mode. But in terms of the actual game connection, there will be LAN.
 
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