[Buff] Storm

[Aravis]

I would like to see two buffs on Storm.


1. Problem: Overload is broken. Bad synergy in regards he can cast while in ult form.

Solution: Let overload stack with itself.
Reason: Current overload wants you to set a hit in between every action. That is annoying and often takes just too much effort and you just waste some overloads.
Balance options: Short duration of stacks, you cant go out of base with huge dmg on next attack. Or/And Maximum of Stacks.


2. Problem: Storm stops after hes oom when you issued a place to ult to.

Solution: Automatically issue a movement command towards the point tried to ulti to after mana is empty.
Reason: Very annonying that he just stops. Crucial in chases. And when you dont look.
Balance: none. This is a fix.

[Agent Smith]

T-up all

[RonaldAniban]

T-up.

[darkmimic]

EDIT:make it stack 3 times..since he has 3 active skills..totally makes sense.

t-up.

[Monsterlord]

I wouldn't mind a small duration or stack size on Overload, truth be told.

[AbyssPetra]

Overload was suggested if i remember and T-UP for issuing movement command after Ball of Lighting.

[Mooga1337]

At first I was all like "this thread is going to be stupid", but then I was all like T-Up!

[JJE92]

1 Obvious TD, that's a large part of his gameplay, casting and attacking alternately. Sometimes, you need to give higher damage output up for a quick disable, but mostly you can and should use this effectively. There's huge synergy, saying that it's bad is just plain nonsense.

2. Obvious TUp, can't see a reason why not

[AKBu3nY]

Originally Posted by JJE92

1 Obvious TD, that's a large part of his gameplay, casting and attacking alternately. Sometimes, you need to give higher damage output up for a quick disable, but mostly you can and should use this effectively. There's huge synergy, saying that it's bad is just plain nonsense.

2. Obvious TUp, can't see a reason why not

Exactly this. The synergy here is perfect. Only because it's hard for some people doesn't mean it's bad. He requiers good reflexes and awareness.

[Monsterlord]

There's huge synergy, saying that it's bad is just plain nonsense.

Exactly this. The synergy here is perfect. Only because it's hard for some people doesn't mean it's bad. He requiers good reflexes and awareness.

Read more carefully. The bad synergy he was talking about is the fact that you can cast spells during a rofl. It effectively wastes an Overload, because you've already got the ulti's one active.

[Wwallace_]

Dont know for 1st, but its very annoying as you stated to cast > attack > cast > attack, etc, what about
With 1 overload, infinite duration until next attack;
If you have more than 1 Overload, add a duration to that stack, more OL stacks, less OL stacked time, if my english isnt clear enough.
1 Overload > Infinite duration
2 Overloads > 10 secs duration until charge is down
3 Overloads > 8 secs duration until charge is down
4 Overloads > 6 secs duration until charge is down
5 Overloads > 4 secs duration until charge is down
6 Overloads > 2 secs duration until charge is down
Maybe 7 Overloads > 1 secs duration until stack is down
So you can get upto 7 charges of overlad, if you ever do this, you would need to Rofl every 1 sec to keep the charges
of course numbers can be tweaked
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huge t-up for 2nd

[Yago]

T-Down to Overload. No reason to change it.

T-Up on the Ball Lightning thing. It is kinda a fix. I could see *minor* situations this could kill you, but in those situations you'd probably already be dead. (Like oh say, trying to skip down a cliff, stopping at the edge and you start auto-walking the stupid way [into your enemy] down that cliff, but of course, you'd probably be dead in such a scenario anyways).

[Nanaya Shiki]

Well T-up.

[JJE92]

Originally Posted by Monsterlord

Read more carefully. The bad synergy he was talking about is the fact that you can cast spells during a rofl. It effectively wastes an Overload, because you've already got the ulti's one active.

How does this change anything?
It's a decision. Whether you cast the skill during the Ult or directly afterwards doesn't change the fact that I said in my last post.
With many other heroes it's the same. Take Earthshaker. Sometimes you need to give up the passive AoE stun for a long range fissure. This doesn't mean it is a bad synergy.
The fact that you can't always use the meant synergy, because the needs of the game differ, doesn't mean that it's a bad synergy.

[gilvert]

T-Null to 1, doesn't really want it.
T-Up to 2.

[Padsoldier]

T-up on both.

[Hugaw]

t-up on all.. but with regards with the stacking of overload.. maybe full damage on initial stack.. half on second and 1/4 on third stack... max of 3 stacks..

[Aravis]

Originally Posted by darkmimic

EDIT:make it stack 3 times..since he has 3 active skills..totally makes sense.

t-up.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Monsterlord

I wouldn't mind a small duration or stack size on Overload, truth be told.

Duration seems good to me too.

Originally Posted by JJE92

1 Obvious TD, that's a large part of his gameplay, casting and attacking alternately. There's huge synergy, saying that it's bad is just plain nonsense.

2. Obvious TUp, can't see a reason why not

You dont see my point. In competetive this wont change a thing, as they do it correct anyway.
In low level play it will be a buff, as people tend to cast all spells without a interfering hit.
I seize to see your huge synergy.

Originally Posted by Monsterlord

Read more carefully. The bad synergy he was talking about is the fact that you can cast spells during a rofl. It effectively wastes an Overload, because you've already got the ulti's one active.

Yep another point.

Originally Posted by Yago

T-Down to Overload. No reason to change it.

T-Up on the Ball Lightning thing. It is kinda a fix. I could see *minor* situations this could kill you, but in those situations you'd probably already be dead. (Like oh say, trying to skip down a cliff, stopping at the edge and you start auto-walking the stupid way [into your enemy] down that cliff, but of course, you'd probably be dead in such a scenario anyways).

Why t-D on overload?

Originally Posted by JJE92

How does this change anything?
It's a decision. Whether you cast the skill during the Ult or directly afterwards doesn't change the fact that I said in my last post.
With many other heroes it's the same. Take Earthshaker. Sometimes you need to give up the passive AoE stun for a long range fissure. This doesn't mean it is a bad synergy.
The fact that you can't always use the meant synergy, because the needs of the game differ, doesn't mean that it's a bad synergy.

I cannot accept this comparison.
While at Storm you are mostly too lazy to hit after manausage, with shaker you simply cant stun far away people with aftershock

[JJE92]

Originally Posted by Aravis

You dont see my point. In competetive this wont change a thing, as they do it correct anyway.
In low level play it will be a buff, as people tend to cast all spells without a interfering hit.
I seize to see your huge synergy.

Well, what does the first thing have to do with that? If you change it, it would change in competitive play as well? I don't see your point.

Originally Posted by Aravis

I cannot accept this comparison.
While at Storm you are mostly too lazy to hit after manausage, with shaker you simply cant stun far away people with aftershock

Well, Storm is no hero for lazy people, so I don't get that hint. Storm is "for adrenaline junkies".

I don't get why it should be changed just because it may be more convenient and less challenging this way. This makes absolutely no sense.

[Aravis]

Originally Posted by JJE92

Well, Storm is no hero for lazy people, so I don't get that hint. Storm is "for adrenaline junkies".

I don't get why it should be changed just because it may be more convenient and less challenging this way. This makes absolutely no sense.

Not really. Storm is about managing your mana and evading stuff. Nothing adrenaline.
Everything you do should be calculated.

"adrenaline heroes" are heroes that try to live with low hp. Namely Huskar, as he has his dmg output while beeing low or TB trying to juke someone.

And yes stupid "hit cast hit cast" has nothing to do with the fast paced gameplay of today. Beeing the agilest hero that literaly can be everywhere, you need your mind on other things.