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Old 09-24-2011, 12:27 PM   #1
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Question New Broodmother Builds?


What to do, what to get, what to skill?

I checked replays section but no brood replays, in pro games people tend to get Soul Ring->Orchid but I don't know actually never tried it out. I don't think Vlad's is as viable as before because pushing with spiderlings nerfed quite hard.

What's your item/skill progression? How do you play her ATM?
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Old 09-24-2011, 12:44 PM   #2
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ATM i'm doing pt str soul ring bkb then tarrasque/butterfly butterly/tarrasque and dps items.
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Old 09-24-2011, 01:54 PM   #3
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Default Re: New Broodmother Builds?

pick up an oblivion staff or two imo on your way to getting surviva-dps items like bkb and sny.
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Old 09-24-2011, 02:36 PM   #4
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Any skill build suggestions?
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Old 09-24-2011, 02:41 PM   #5
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in pubs ive been maxing bite by 7 with 1 point in the nuke
firstblood at lvl 6, and after that they cant even sit in lane w/o fear of dying
plus as soon as you get higher levels of the nuke your spiders can tank and you can towerdive np np
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:19 PM   #6
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So, no love for brood?
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:21 PM   #7
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soulring treads bkb butterfly HoT/AC with situational Orchid
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:24 PM   #8
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What to do, what to get, what to skill?

I checked replays section but no brood replays, in pro games people tend to get Soul Ring->Orchid but I don't know actually never tried it out. I don't think Vlad's is as viable as before because pushing with spiderlings nerfed quite hard.

What's your item/skill progression? How do you play her ATM?
Basher and Vanguard are quite strong on her in the current version. Since her pushing presence isn't as strong as it was before she fills a role that is more orientated towards winning a solo lane and building into a heavy DPS.

Normally I just farm in lane and build into whatever is most applicable in a given game. Basher is very common for me and in some games you will need BKB in order to keep hitting people under your ult.
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Old 09-25-2011, 07:27 PM   #9
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I like to go MoC+BKB+SnY+Phase on her as these items make her an unstoppable ganker/chaser.
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:07 PM   #10
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Default Re: New Broodmother Builds?

These item suggestions aren't the greatest, but they are nice if you are in to change.

1) BattleFury rush
2) Orchid rush
3) Radience rush
4) Vlds + Mech (early push build)
5) Armlet.

Other then that her best build is pretty standard an boring, as mentioned above, bkb etc etc.
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Old 09-25-2011, 11:54 PM   #11
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Default Re: New Broodmother Builds?

her build is very flexible, you have to adapt to the game

you usually want smth like sr+pt/phase (with stick/pms/rob as you see fit) as your core, then vang or bkb if needed, orchid if it rapes their heroes, then random dps/chasing stuff like yasha, butter, basher etc.
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Old 09-25-2011, 11:55 PM   #12
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Always better to build as you play rather than try to stick to some predetermined item set. Adjust to what your opponents are doing.
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Old 09-26-2011, 12:26 AM   #13
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Phase are REALLY ANNOYING to use on her because if you phase while you are hidden in a web you hero decides to press S when the phase duration runs out.
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Old 09-26-2011, 03:52 AM   #14
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Getting Soul Ring and then Orchid is a bit redundant, imo. If I plan on rushing an orchid, I usually go PT first. And if the gameplan is a push strat, my build is usually Vlad's/Necrobook.
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:06 PM   #15
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Phase are REALLY ANNOYING to use on her because if you phase while you are hidden in a web you hero decides to press S when the phase duration runs out.
Oh that's why i found myself doing stupid shit while using them.
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:12 PM   #16
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:15 PM   #17
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i usually dun up spawn spiderling until level 9 or 10. i prefer to harass with her passive and leveling webs over spiderling. after u hit level 6, it's basically a kill because of your slow and superior movespeed.

Power tread, basilius, bkb, s&y, mkb is my fave build. i dun find the need for soulring because u dun need mana early on since leveling third and sceond skil first is definitely better imo.
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:02 AM   #18
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Every time i get BKB on her I feel like I don't do enough damage. What item can you get to up her dmg? Also soul ring is a good idea.
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:21 AM   #19
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Every time i get BKB on her I feel like I don't do enough damage. What item can you get to up her dmg? Also soul ring is a good idea.
Butterfly is a massive difference maker after you get EHP.

Since her ult gives you so much damage the extra EHP from evasion and the IAS/DMG from butter just feel perfect.

I personally prefer sitting on 2-3 sobi masks instead of SR since I tend to be choked off from courier use when I want it. Otherwise SR is perfectly applicable if you are making a VG style build.
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Old 10-21-2011, 05:35 AM   #20
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i dont know abt sr nvr liked it on brood since whenever i tried getting it and spamming spiders opponents used to get sentry and f*** the low hp brood.
IMO going pt orchid s&y BKB is very good now for semi-organised games.
since phase and web interaction is not that great i avoid getting it and s&y provides a bit of everything - extra ms, some decent hp, a chance to slow which stacks with her orb, some dmg and aspd
since u already have good attack speed and 40 dmg from orchid and pt u will shine a lot in mid game

i generally create spider and send the extra spiders to forest so that while i farm in lane my spiders get me some gold in jungle thus using the mana regen to max
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Old 10-22-2011, 10:27 AM   #21
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Necrobook is amazingly strong, not only for its pushing power, but also in PvP. Another unorthodox thing for pushing purposes is Mekansm, because of the extra MP you got due to Bottle/RoB/SR. Those together form a pretty strong pushing duo.
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:21 AM   #22
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so im not the only one wondering why my brood stopped suddenly when i tried to squeeze in some more hits. glad i switched away from phase, although the dmg boost is nice to have early
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:50 PM   #23
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If somehow you are not upgrading Basilius to Vlads,AC is a nice alternative to Bfly.
My itembuild to her is like Stout+Ring+Tangos,get Boots,RoB,SR and PMS,end normal core with Treads and Vlads.Core extension is Basher.Luxury is BKB.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:58 PM   #24
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so im not the only one wondering why my brood stopped suddenly when i tried to squeeze in some more hits. glad i switched away from phase, although the dmg boost is nice to have early
It's a very easy bug to understand if you think about the mechanics. If it didn't exist phase would almost be better than treads on her.
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:39 PM   #25
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So, any replays? I have relatively good time playing Brood since I opened this thread but I'm still looking for some good replays.

I'm just experimenting mostly. Still considering if SnY is good or not. What do you think about it? *After PT-SR-PMS-BKB*
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:58 PM   #26
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core is sr/pms/pt, bkb first item in most cases, then butter, and usualy finish with dagg/hot/as
You have to adapt of course, but this build is mostly what I tend to do nowdays in most of my games.

On a side not, sr is just too strong on brood, make you win most of the lanes: vs an aoe/sentry you just nuke them all day long.
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:10 PM   #27
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I've gone urn over SR a few times when I've been completely shut out of pushing. Works reasonably well, can still spam enough spides to jungle and push when needed.

So long as you have the fastest BKB you can get you are fine. The only reason not to go BKB first item is enemies have 0-1 stuns or a silly amount of DPS + a beastmaster type.

Vanguard + sheep is my secondary build if I don't need or can't use bkb.

BKB + sheep (selling SR) otherwise. I understand butterfly second, but I prefer the utility of a disable in terms of getting near opponents and shutting down carries that can go toe to toe with me over getting massive DPS + survival. So long as shes attacking and has BKB I find you don't need anything more than ulti.....My goodness.
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Old 10-23-2011, 10:08 AM   #28
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