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Old 10-28-2011, 03:03 AM   #1
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Added a commendation system, which allows you to commend players who made your game a happier experience, and report anyone being hostile. You can commend or report a player by clicking their name in the main menu, in-game scoreboard or end game score screen.
best way to filter out trolls, newbies, tardheads and baddies.
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:11 AM   #3
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And to report everyone just because you felt like it.
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some people are still going to abuse it
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This is going to be rather pointless if the game is f2p, which I hope it won't be.
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And to report everyone just because you felt like it.
UNFORTUNATLY, this... theres gotta be a real fix to it...how bout people who are of a certain rank are only allowed to do this. This will mean that the people of this rank and higher can be TAKEN MORE SERIOUSLY to who they thumb up or thumb down. ABUSE is still likely to happen but this way i would hope to think it would scale it down alot less. whoever is under this so called "rank" wont be able to rate people
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This is going to be rather pointless if the game is f2p, which I hope it won't be.
if the game does go F2P comendations are TOTALLY pointless, so THIS!
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if the game does go F2P comendations are TOTALLY pointless, so THIS!
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:20 AM   #9
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I "commend" them for trying it atleast. It will probably fail and we'll get whine threads how people are getting negative commendation from noobs when they accidentally ks or someone makes a mistake. It's Dota, I don't want commendation setting me straight, if i wanna troll, ill troll thank you very much.
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:23 AM   #10
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some morons might abuse this thing.
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:23 AM   #11
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Interesting tactic. I envisage that almost everyone will have around an equal amount of + and -, and a small minority will have a lot of + or a lot of -. Basically, it'll find the very biggest trolls and the very biggest saints.

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And to report everyone just because you felt like it.
And this.
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i know a lot of people will end up abusing this feature.
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Since no one from DOTA 2 Testers or Devs actually explained how this Commendation System thing works, I'm thinking it should only be in private view, For example you create a game then the guy you Commend joined, you (the guy who commend this fella) will be warned and have an option to kick or let him join.

There's a MOD in HoN kinda similar to this but i forgot the name of it.
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Sounds like Trouble to me. Bad Idea.
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some people are still going to abuse it
It's not pointless. The reason is that if you behave nicely in every game, you're going to get good reps, And vice versa. Now some people think it's pointless because "If I never flame, troll or trashtalk, people can still down rep me..." yes that's true, but only if you are standing on the fence; meaning you don't behave badly, but neither do you behave good. It's like you are silent all the game. No trashtalk, but no contribution either. If this is the case, you will be influenced by random bad reps.

However, if you make it a habit of talking nicely and helpful towards other players in every single game, you will be likelier to get more good reps, which in turn, will dissolve all the minor random bad reps. And I believe this is the point; to encourage every player to behave nicely.

Examples of good behaviors:
Admit defeat when lost. Smile and say "well played guys"
Buy wards, dusts and couriers for your team if you are playing support or you have excess gold.
Show humbleness when winning. No need for sarcasm and arrogance.
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Old 10-28-2011, 04:02 AM   #16
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Not sure this will work.

Since I saw some random noob flaming Dendi on his stream (because he ran form a farmed AM playing as Furion) just a few weeks after the guy won the International I became very suspicious about this kind of system.

I had to laugh when I saw it (so I wouldn't cry, lol). It's like you're playing some basketball with Michael Jordan and complaining about him while you can't even jump 10cm off the ground.

Bad players can't be trusted to judge not even themselves, so how can they judge other people's skills?
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Old 10-28-2011, 04:04 AM   #17
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I'm not sure how it works. And I'm too tired/sleepy to check right now.

But I hope the report is connected to a replay.
Not just so you can randomly report someone without any evidence.
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Old 10-28-2011, 04:05 AM   #18
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Commendation system which gives reputation points and a time interval between commendations so that no one will abuse it (what I think of the system)

Nice step by Valve, but needs more.
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The key is to behave as positive as possible so the good reps you get will overshadow the random bad reps you get.
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I'm worried people will get rated down for being 'noobs'
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I think we could avoid abusive behaviors by only allowing people with at least a hundred games to be able to judge someone.It wouldn't really solve the problem but at least limit it.
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I think we could avoid abusive behaviors by only allowing people with at least a hundred games to be able to judge someone.It wouldn't really solve the problem but at least limit it.
Yes that sounds like a way to improve the commendation system.
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Old 10-28-2011, 04:34 AM   #24
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It's not pointless. The reason is that if you behave nicely in every game, you're going to get good reps, And vice versa. Now some people think it's pointless because "If I never flame, troll or trashtalk, people can still down rep me..." yes that's true, but only if you are standing on the fence; meaning you don't behave badly, but neither do you behave good. It's like you are silent all the game. No trashtalk, but no contribution either. If this is the case, you will be influenced by random bad reps.

However, if you make it a habit of talking nicely and helpful towards other players in every single game, you will be likelier to get more good reps, which in turn, will dissolve all the minor random bad reps. And I believe this is the point; to encourage every player to behave nicely.

Examples of good behaviors:
Admit defeat when lost. Smile and say "well played guys"
Buy wards, dusts and couriers for your team if you are playing support or you have excess gold.
Show humbleness when winning. No need for sarcasm and arrogance.
Still it wouldn't be enough. You just gave perfect examples if you were playing with people who has a working brain. Now let's see a different example:

You are being friendly and helpful, always calling miss and etc. You are playing very well throughout the whole match but then in the end you do a silly little human mistake that gets your team a loss. Everyone will forget everything good you did earlier and will straight down-vote, no matter what. There's always one player who doesn't know how to lose, so this person might as well wrongly rate you.

Be too friendly, there's people who won't like those type of players. Be too quiet, same thing. Get the idea now? It's easily going to be misused and misunderstood by players as everyone has their own opinion to what is a helpful player or not.

Edit: Not to mention people are close-minded when it comes to item-building or to defining hero holes. They will be stubborn enough to think that only X item-build works on Z hero, only X skills and so on. They wouldn't even try to stop and think if what they know about the game is enough under all conditions to fully judge what is bad or good.

"Oh my god, spec y no Radiance? -/downvotes + leaves the game-

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I think we could avoid abusive behaviors by only allowing people with at least a hundred games to be able to judge someone.It wouldn't really solve the problem but at least limit it.
Please, make it one thousand or five hundred. A hundred matches is not enough for all try-hard-pro-wannabes to learn how all heroes work.

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As someone said earlier, a vote should be connected to a replay, this way it would be easier to judge if someone really deserved this vote. Also, person voting should explain why, thanks to that there will be a way to recognize butthurtkids.
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As someone said earlier, a vote should be connected to a replay, this way it would be easier to judge if someone really deserved this vote. Also, person voting should explain why, thanks to that there will be a way to recognize butthurtkids.
Good luck getting someone reviewing every replay.
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If they are going through the trouble of banning/warning/whatever, they should be looking at replays and such so they can see the facts. It wouldn't be fair otherwise .
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:29 AM   #28
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Since I don't see anyone posted the new feature yet, here it is:

Commend a player:

Friendly, forgiving, teaching, leadership

Report a player:

Text abuse, voice abuse, intentional ability abuse, intentional feeding

Apparently you only have 10 of each for some reason..
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Since I don't see anyone posted the new feature yet, here it is:

Commend a player:

Friendly, forgiving, teaching, leadership

Report a player:

Text abuse, voice abuse, intentional ability abuse, intentional feeding

Apparently you only have 10 of each for some reason..
Did other people could see our commended/reported action?
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Since I don't see anyone posted the new feature yet, here it is:

Commend a player:

Friendly, forgiving, teaching, leadership

Report a player:

Text abuse, voice abuse, intentional ability abuse, intentional feeding

Apparently you only have 10 of each for some reason..
The counts probably reset every week/month to prevent spam reporting (or spam commending lol!).
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I think we could avoid abusive behaviors by only allowing people with at least a hundred games to be able to judge someone.It wouldn't really solve the problem but at least limit it.
Or, someone who get enough commendation (probably from non-party, non-friend players only) can actually rate down someone.
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if someone starts to report everybody, he will soon run out of reports, and when a real troll get on his nerves he will be out of reports... it may work like that.

anyway, the commendation system will be abused by friends/clans.
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I like the praising part of the commend system. However, I severely dislike the report system; it is too easily abused. I recommend keeping the commendation system for praising only. Reporting someone for bad manners should always be accompanied by replays. To make the processing simpler the player should include the time(s) of offense. Also, I think, you can get a good understanding of a player by simply comparing the number of matches he played with the number of good commendations he got.
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And to report everyone just because you felt like it.
Or just get your friends to report someone just for the hell of it. It just the xbox live system all over again.


Hell if anything no one going to talk for being afraid of pissing off someone who has a ton lots of friends and could destroy your account. -_-
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not going to work. So obvious...
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lol
lots of crystal maiden players are gona get reported for "intentional feeding"
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It would be interesting if this system was integrated into the matchmaking system... as in makes it so it doesn't match you with people you disliked and such.
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some people are still going to abuse it
This, unfortunately. sighh
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I think that "commendation" should only affect you if atleast 4/10 people in that game rated you like that.
For example, 1 guy might rate me as a noob because I ksed/flamed him, But, 3 other people from my team and 1 on other team rated me as best player, so it adds to my points (or whatever system valve plans to use).

Thus it gives a fair system of rating. And lets say 2/10 people don't rate players, so 3/8 remaming players should rate you for it to count towards your score.
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