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Old 09-26-2009, 08:04 PM   #1
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Default [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge


Chaotic Charge Active, Not Targeted, Affects Player Owned Units
The Chaos Knight and his war party charge forward in an uncontrolled frenzy, knocking back and damaging any unit they encounter.
LevelMana  Cooldown  Damage   Knockback   Knockback  Charge  Charge
      per Unit Distance Speed  Speed Distance
1 50 25 15-30  150 300 600 450
2 65 20 30-45  150 300 600 600
3 80 15 45-60  150 300 600 750
4 95 10 60-75  150 300 600 900
For a detailed description, see my quoted post.
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Description :
  • The Chaos Knight and all his units (Illusions, Necronomicon Summons, Dominated Creeps) charge forward, knocking and damaging any unit they encounter.
Effects :
  • The hero and his Illusions do a Leap-like-movement (triggered movement, not targeted, but no jump effect)
  • Any unit they hit is knocked back and damaged
  • Angle of knockback is related to the impact angle (like Pool)
Scaling :
  • Maximum Range should increase with level
  • Damage should increase with level
  • Damage should be high enough to be useful without images, but low enough for it not too be excesive with them.
  • Mana Cost should increase with level
  • Cooldown should decrease with level
Pros :
  • With good positioning and timing, a unit may be hit multiple times
  • Increases in power if you get more units
  • You can farm with it like an AoE nuke
  • You can use Images to flank an opponent and still be able to get them near so they can attack.
  • Offers greater rewards with greater skill
  • All the CKs runnig aroung pushing people fits the theme
Cons :
  • Not targeted
  • Blink is better for chasing.
Other possible effects :
  • destroys trees / charge stops when encountering trees
  • knockback may / may not stop chaneling (greater bash vs force staff)
  • May only affect CK and His Illusions and not other units
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Old 10-15-2009, 01:31 PM   #2
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

T-up.

It sounds fun, unique, and has the potential to be powerful without really being broken. I would like to see him with his ult, a manta style, necro book and a HotD. It would be quite epic. I love it.

Also, his current blink strike is kind of boring, and it doesn't fit well with his ultimate considering it separates you from your images.

In fact, because it allows you to travel with your images and bumps enemies, it seems to me the damage of the charge should be negligible, or non-existent, say, 50 per unit at lvl 4, but that's my opinion.

Another good point to make is I would like to see Riki as the only hero with blinkstrike now that PA had her blinkstrike redone (because blinkstrike specifically synergies with Riki's moveset).
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Old 10-15-2009, 04:47 PM   #3
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

Nice, it's unique and more rewarding with better skill. Just imagine positioning your CK's units around the units being ganked and at the right moment you knock them inwards for the kill.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:18 AM   #4
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Nice, it's unique and more rewarding with better skill. Just imagine positioning your CK's units around the units being ganked and at the right moment you knock them inwards for the kill.
That's what I wanted to add.
The most popular skills in DotA are those that give better results with better skill, not just point-n-click.
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:57 PM   #5
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

Major T-Up. There have been so many suggested changes to Nessaj's blink, I wish they would just pick one and implement it already. This is possibly the best I've seen.
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Old 10-20-2009, 07:13 PM   #6
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

There's a topic for it will know?

Brainstorming: CK Blinkstrike
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Old 10-20-2009, 07:54 PM   #7
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

I suggested this in the subtopic, just a bit more complicated, can't find my post for now.

Edit:Here
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Old 10-21-2009, 02:49 AM   #8
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

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There's a topic for it will know?

Brainstorming: CK Blinkstrike
Yeah, I don't know why he posted here.... Icefrog will certainly give more care on that thread...
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Old 10-21-2009, 03:47 AM   #9
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

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I suggested this in the subtopic, just a bit more complicated, can't find my post for now.

Edit:Here
It's not the same thing.
Read the explanation.
And my original suggestion of this is on page 3.

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Yeah, I don't know why he posted here.... Icefrog will certainly give more care on that thread...
I've already posted it there' but that thread lacks feedback.
It's just a big (unorganized) list.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:39 PM   #10
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

T-up.
Way better than blinkstrike and an currently unused concept.
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:21 PM   #11
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

nice skill, it also makes senses since nessaj has a horse, t-up
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:02 PM   #12
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

Thanks for the appreciation.
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:55 AM   #13
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

T up, but maybe make the knock back stack so if a enemy unit is hit by two of your units if gets knocked back twice as far.
Other than that good idea.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:12 PM   #14
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

whats with everyone wanting knockback these days?
want to make spiritbreaker less unique?

i say maybe just make the blinkstrike work with your images too...
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:07 PM   #15
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whats with everyone wanting knockback these days?
want to make spiritbreaker less unique?

i say maybe just make the blinkstrike work with your images too...
Knockback is there so you can hit a unit multiple times.
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:32 AM   #16
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T-up i guess
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:45 AM   #17
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

It seems like a good replacement for CK's Blink Strike.
T-up for concept
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:07 PM   #18
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nice concept
dont forget to mention your suggestion in the "requests" forum.
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

Big big T-up, will seriously look cool to have stuff like Wildkin diving at the enemy ;D.
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Old 11-13-2009, 01:58 PM   #20
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Default Re: [REMAKE]Blink Strike -> Chaotic Charge

Thanks for the comments.
Hope the devs notice it.
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