(Tweak/Buff) Make Mana Drain more fluent!

[Cocofang]

This thread is about Lion and his ability Mana Drain.
Instead of draining 100 mana every second I would like it to drain more fluently.

e.g. 10 Mana every 0.1 seconds

This would fit the drain theme alot better, but it would also slightly buff Mana Drain. Despite to this buff I don´t beleive a (heavy) rebalance would be in place.

I would also like to ask wether I am allowed to include Pugna`s drain into this trhead as well or if have to create another topic just for him.

[Nanaya Shiki]

Suggested before, still T-up.
Although I want IF remove the retard 10 manacost.

[Cocofang]

ah allright. If it was allready suggested then there actually is no need for me suggestion it (and especially the Pugna thing).

Thank you!

[Lanther]

No reason for not having it,especially when the animation looks like a continuous draining,not a wave/pack/burst drain.

Immense T-Up.

[ImboredxD]

Not gonna change much imo. T-Null

[Hugaw]

^ gonna kill off illusions much faster and initial mana drain is faster.( note there is a 1 second delay to actually mana drain something)

[CryingOut]

umm i dont really get it ._.

[johnstr95]

T-up let it DRAIN

[AKBu3nY]

Originally Posted by CryingOut

umm i dont really get it ._.

Currently it drains every second 100 mana. He suggest it to make it drain every 0.1 seconds 10 mana. Overall, the same amount of mana is drained. It's just more smooth.

Example: You cast mana drain, but get interrupted after 0.8 seconds. With the current mana drain you'd drain 0 mana (because it drains 100 in 1 second tacts).
With the suggested one you'd have drain 80 mana in 0.8 seconds (because it'd drain 10 in 0.1 second tacts).
You won't have to wait a full second to drain mana. It's a small, but handy buff.

Originally Posted by Cocofang

I would also like to ask wether I am allowed to include Pugna`s drain into this trhead as well or if have to create another topic just for him.

Add it to this thread, because it's exactly the same tweak for a very simillar spell.


T-up for Mana Drain. 0.05 seconds won't be good, because it'd drag peformance. 0.1 second tact is ok imo.


As for Life Drain it'd drain 7.125/10.5/13.87511.25/15/18.75 with scepter hp every 0.1 seconds (magic resistance involved). Means it never could cancel consumables and dagger/heart. The minimum dmg required to disable them is 30.

But we could make it drain in 0.5 second tacts. Than it'd be enough dmg to disable consumables. It'd deal 35.625/52.5/69.375 dmg every 0.5 seconds (magic resistance involved).

And for the scepter version, 0.3 second tacts would be enough.
37.5/50/62.5 dmg every 0.3second (magic resistance involved).

Pls correct me if I made any mistakes.
read below.

[crinckle]

Originally Posted by AKBu3nY

Add it to this thread, because it's exactly the same tweak for a very simillar spell.
As for Life Drain it'd drain 7.125/10.5/13.87511.25/15/18.75 with scepter hp every 0.1 seconds (magic resistance involved). Means it never could cancel consumables and dagger/heart. The minimum dmg required to disable them is 30.

But we could make it drain in 0.5 second tacts. Than it'd be enough dmg to disable consumables. It'd deal 35.625/52.5/69.375 dmg every 0.5 seconds (magic resistance involved).

And for the scepter version, 0.3 second tacts would be enough.
37.5/50/62.5 dmg every 0.3second (magic resistance involved).

Pls correct me if I made any mistakes.

Life drain interval is already 0.25 seconds.
Also, damage for canceling consumables in 20 and it is before any reductions.

OT: T-Up to reducing the interval for mana drain.

[Cocofang]

Originally Posted by crinckle

Life drain interval is already 0.25 seconds.
Also, damage for canceling consumables in 20 and it is before any reductions.

OT: T-Up to reducing the interval for mana drain.

fantastic to know. Then i don´t have to worry about pugne if 0.25 is basically the limit.

On an unrelated question (since I cannot test it right now) do the drain abilities also destroy dota2 illusions? If yes Ivè got to amke a cosmetic suggestion on the dev boards.

I also changed the opening post to include 0.1 second intervals only.

[AKBu3nY]

^Yes, it destroys illus.

[Milith]

Gratz !

[ddon27]

Gratz...brilliant idea btw

[AKBu3nY]

Congratz

[fr0stcr1ms0n]

Gratz bro!

[DrQwertySilence]

Congrats.

[ItIsNight]

iirc, it tics at start of interval, not after it. So it's nerf. No?

[AKBu3nY]

^No, it didn't.

This got implemented fyi.

[gilvert]

gratz