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Old 12-25-2011, 05:36 AM   #1
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Default Item Build for Rizzrak, the Goblin Shredder


Arcane Boots
Guinsoo's Scythe of Vyse
Shiva's Guard
Battle Fury
Heart of Tarrasque
Linken's Sphere

Are the items mentioned above are the correct item build for Rizzrak?
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Old 12-25-2011, 05:41 AM   #2
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Default Re: Item Build for Rizzrak, the Goblin Shredder

Don't really see the point of BF and Shiva.

Would much prefer AC and/or Radiance esp since he can't attack when he uses ulti.
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Old 12-25-2011, 05:43 AM   #3
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Default Re: Item Build for Rizzrak, the Goblin Shredder

radiance is good on him, for his ulti, i would prefer ac=shiva, but its a preference, and i have seen people get blink dagger for positioning, and it's actually decent.
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Old 12-25-2011, 05:54 AM   #4
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Don't really see the point of BF and Shiva.

Would much prefer AC and/or Radiance esp since he can't attack when he uses ulti.
Does a reduced armor, increases the damage of "Pure Damage" spells?
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Old 12-25-2011, 05:57 AM   #5
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You really shouldn't have the time farming up a radiance and there is also not much need for it. Paying a relict when you hardly attack? Shivas on the other hand was made for this hero. Decent aura, provides him with much needed mana, platemail inside and the ability has great synergy with his gameplay. (try hook while using shiva at the same time)

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Arcane Boots
Vanguard
Platemail=>Shivas
more:
euls,bloodstone, heart, anything that makes him more tanky, provide more mana or has a useful ability that is needed

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Does a reduced armor, increases the damage of "Pure Damage" spells?
No and attackspeed is also not very helpful
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Old 12-25-2011, 06:01 AM   #6
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Default Re: Item Build for Rizzrak, the Goblin Shredder

HE CAN'T GANK ALONE, THAT'S HIS PROBLEM.
HE NEEDS A STUN.

I SUGGEST ON THE SECOND SKILL WHEN YOU PASS THROUGH A UNIT.
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Old 12-25-2011, 06:02 AM   #7
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Default Re: Item Build for Rizzrak, the Goblin Shredder

dont agree with sheepstick, battle and linken.. :/ but the others are good.
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Old 12-25-2011, 06:20 AM   #8
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Rizzrak is my current favorite hero
I'm trying to get used to him
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Old 12-25-2011, 10:57 AM   #9
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Default Re: Item Build for Rizzrak, the Goblin Shredder

IMO battle furry is not needed he's more a tanker that some dps hero...i would go for: -
Bloodstone or Linken - well mana regen is very important for this hero...
Radi- more AoE present
BoT- no need to expalin
Shiva-well this is a good item more armor, more mana and usefull slow and more AoE present
Heart - more tankier
Optional - BKB, Cuirrass, Bloodstone/Linken
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Old 12-25-2011, 11:31 AM   #10
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Needs a Vanguard.
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Old 12-25-2011, 12:03 PM   #11
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Default Re: Item Build for Rizzrak, the Goblin Shredder

Late Game Full Item Built List:
Arcane Boots
Vanguard
Rod of Atos
Mask of Madness
Battle Fury
Radiance

This is my style... if you don't like it, you can play replace Vanguard with Shiva's Guard... or make your own perfect build~
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Old 12-25-2011, 12:38 PM   #12
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Why BF lolz.
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Old 12-25-2011, 12:47 PM   #13
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Default Re: Item Build for Rizzrak, the Goblin Shredder

I find necronomicon quite viable for him mainly since his ulti's permadisable properties. have yet to try ingame though
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Old 12-25-2011, 01:07 PM   #14
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IMO battle furry is not needed he's more a tanker that some dps hero...i would go for: -
Bloodstone or Linken - well mana regen is very important for this hero...
Radi- more AoE present
BoT- no need to expalin
Shiva-well this is a good item more armor, more mana and usefull slow and more AoE present
Heart - more tankier
Optional - BKB, Cuirrass, Bloodstone/Linken
I agree, he's more of a support character than a killer character..
Make him a tank so he can annoy the shit out his opponents while your dpses does the rest.
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Old 12-25-2011, 01:10 PM   #15
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blademail, shiva
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Old 01-20-2012, 06:28 AM   #16
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Default Re: Item Build for Rizzrak, the Goblin Shredder

i used:
linken
shivas
vangrd
Bot
radiance
HoT

its very usefulllll for a tanker...
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:10 AM   #17
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Default Re: Item Build for Rizzrak, the Goblin Shredder

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Late Game Full Item Built List:
Arcane Boots
Vanguard
Rod of Atos
Mask of Madness
Battle Fury
Radiance

This is my style... if you don't like it, you can play replace Vanguard with Shiva's Guard... or make your own perfect build~
Your only EHP increase is a vanguard yet you get increased damaged received by MoM? Goodluck to surviving the enemy team's nukes
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:37 AM   #18
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Default Re: Item Build for Rizzrak, the Goblin Shredder

MoM, AC, BF... I can't really understand why the heck Rizzrak needs those.

Inb4 "MoM for movespeed, AC for team auras, BF for mana". KK.

IMO starting with a stout shield is a must, but VG is very situanional.
Mainstream build for him is AB -> PB+VB -> Disassemble AB; then build bloodstone.

Linken isn't bad altrnative, but sometimes you should think of BKB after you solve your general mana problems. In the meantime you must address armor problems, probably buy a chainmail that you may want to turn into Blademail later.

Shiva synergizes with him in many ways, Guinsoo is always nice, esp. since it takes a lot to satisfy his mana hunger. Rod of Athos is useful aswell, but you have to pick your items, not that you will have all gold in the world.

Generally, you will need at least one big mana item, something to boost your armour and something to help restoring your HP (not a must, but good idea) so that damage can't stop you from ganking and to increase your ninja'ing potential.

Basically, it's like Pit's build (except applicability of supportive gear and that healing part, they aren't similar in this way), but Shredder is much more of a mana whore and he's also a high-aggro tharget with escape mech, keep that in mind too.

Also remember that building up a mana pool to use his pure damage abilities is easier than taking your melee attack to the same level of effectiveness. You have a potential to deal about 200 DPS to a single target (not to mention that you usually hit more than one target) penetrating damage reduction means, to surpass that you have to deal like 400-500 physical DPS later in the game. Trying to achieve this totally not worth it since you don't have steroids and your stats gain is subpar, to say the least. So items I mentioned in the begining of the post is a no-no IMO.

Another thing is Radi, it's sort of good, but you have higher priorities. If you think that it will still be usefull later, you can go for it, but I'm not so sure. Not that Shredder is a hero who will spend a ton of time to farm.
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:42 AM   #19
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pub > radi

tryhardin > support stuff
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:48 AM   #20
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Don't really see the point of BF and Shiva.

Would much prefer AC and/or Radiance esp since he can't attack when he uses ulti.
In my opinion shivas are made for this hero. This hero need tons of mana and slow to be effective in team fight. Just imagine that you initiate a fight by hooking in and shivas to slow the enemy team. As they crippled and slowed you placed your ulti which when damage them further slowing them and give a chance for your hard carry and nuker to obliterate them. BF is also a waste on this hero IMO. Youre better off with bloodstone as he is having a crappy attack speed and need tonnes of mana and tanking item (shivas/hood/etc) to be useful in team fight
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Bloodstone is actually really good for this guy.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:29 AM   #22
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pub > radi

tryhardin > support stuff
It depends of what you are calling "support stuff". If that's about "boots+wards", then it's really a wasted pick. Shredder needs a semicarry-level of farm at least IMO.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:33 PM   #23
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Default Re: Item Build for Rizzrak, the Goblin Shredder

Vangvard
Radiance
Heart of Tarrasque
Linken's Sphere
Power Teads
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:57 PM   #24
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bloodstone + shiva.
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:03 PM   #25
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arcane/phase -> vanguard -> guinsoo -> shiva/heart (depends on situation, but most likely shiva cause of maginafags)
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:39 PM   #26
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Default Re: Item Build for Rizzrak, the Goblin Shredder

Tanking and regeneration, especially mana, is all he will ever need.

Arcane boots
stout (maybe upgrade into Vanguard, not obligatory though)
maybe basi
Bloodstone core (if you don't get bloodstone on Shredder you are doing it wrong)

and then whatever you need. Shiva for armor and more nuking + awesome in combination with ultimate, Radiance if you can afford it and enemies don't have the damage to take you down yet, Scythe for disable or euls for disable, Heart later on for ridiculous immortality, Blademail for damage and even more immortality, linkens or BKB if they have lots of disables, Mjollnir as standalone damage item (okayish).
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:55 PM   #27
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bloodstone + shiva.
QFT, Arcane boots coupled with these two is more than enough for this hero, you can spam your 200/360 pure damage spells, and you get both HP and armour.

A RoB early game is pretty good also
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:06 PM   #28
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Vanguard > Battlefury
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:39 PM   #29
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HE NEEDS A STUN.
Not really. A slow at best.
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Old 02-19-2012, 01:29 PM   #30
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i used:
linken
shivas
vangrd
Bot
radiance
HoT

its very usefulllll for a tanker...
i like that one too amazing survivability and no1 can escape
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Old 02-19-2012, 02:27 PM   #31
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Stout -> Soul ring -> arcane boots -> RoH -> bloodstone -> ab again. Its pretty much the only way to play him. All shredder needs is mana and more mana. With a 4 cd long range blink he is unkillable and destroys teams- until hes OOM. You can get a shivas or w.e after that, but after bloodstone youve won the game.
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Old 02-19-2012, 02:28 PM   #32
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bloodstone + shiva.
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Old 02-19-2012, 02:53 PM   #33
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I really gotta stress how core soul ring is on him, esp at level 6. With a standard 3122242111 build, youve pretty much got a built in ROH to fuel you SR, and i think everyone knows how strong that is.
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Old 02-19-2012, 03:07 PM   #34
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arc pms bloods + linken, +situational stuff like hex shiva rly, use search
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:46 PM   #35
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I like to play this hero.. I think items like
-arcane boots(core)
-bloodstone(core)
-Eul Scepter
-Dagger or force staff(try to force staff ur enemy in ur ulti)
-Dagon
-Shivas
-Guinsoo
is good for him..
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:01 PM   #36
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Default Re: Item Build for Rizzrak, the Goblin Shredder

Here comes the most accurate and helpful answer.

Arcane Boots, Magic Wand and Shiva's Guard as core.

The rest are luxuries.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:03 PM   #37
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Obviously 6 BRANCHES. common man hes the shredder, he needs stuff to SHRED
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:04 PM   #38
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