[Remake] Medusa's Split Shot

NoThlnG · 06-25-2009, 04:43 AM

Well many players don't use split shot since it deals less damage with it and it annoys because needed to be toggle

I suggest split shot become something like this :

Quote:

Split Shot (PASSIVE)

Medusa magically splits her shot into 4 arrows. Main arrow deals normal damage while other arrows deals diminished damage.

Level 1 : Deals 35% dmg
Level 2 : Deals 45% dmg
Level 3 : Deals 55% dmg
Level 4 : Deals 65% dmg

How 'bout it?

icu^^ · 06-25-2009, 04:55 AM

Medusa was remade. Do you think, Icefrog is not smart enough to make a nice remake and he will remake Medusa every version?

Zack1996 · 06-25-2009, 04:56 AM

Too many arrows. And the minimum amount of arrows allowed by Warcraft is 3.
Sounds like a ranged splash, not bad a concept. T-Up.

Whitefang · 06-25-2009, 07:01 AM

This is nice and simple suggestion. T-Up.

NoThlnG · 06-25-2009, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Zack1996

Too many arrows. And the minimum amount of arrows allowed by Warcraft is 3.
Sounds like a ranged splash, not bad a concept. T-Up.

I changed the arrow. Now it is 4 at all levels and the damage is increasing

Orkimond · 06-25-2009, 08:03 AM

their are already existing split shot rmk threads...

Zack1996 · 06-25-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Orkimond

their are already existing split shot rmk threads...

And so? This is one of my preferred remakes. Many of the others suggested removing it and completely changing the ability.

Henry · 06-25-2009, 06:13 PM

Split Shot concept doesn't really work with medusa... Let's try another PASSIVE skill envolving mana stealing, mana regen and mana pool.

Cp6uja · 06-25-2009, 06:15 PM

Needs a complete remake or some sort of buff. This is just recycling the same thing into passive.

NoThlnG · 06-26-2009, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cp6uja_

Needs a complete remake or some sort of buff. This is just recycling the same thing into passive.

Well, it isn't

Original split shot concept is splitting one arrow to many arrow that deals smaller damage

While this concept is ADDING some arrows to deals damage to nearby enemies (like cleaving attacks)

The main difference is this. I don't care whether it become active or passive (It could be active which gives something bonus, but I don't have any idea for now)

Complete remake will be good but what makes medusa is strong actually it's ability to farm using split shot and mystic snake while ability to survive using stony gaze and mana shield

If we change into a mana based skills such as Henry suggested than medusa will be a tanker that need mana. Then what's her agi for? Besides, mystic snake is now good skills to steal mana.

Henry · 06-26-2009, 03:54 AM

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If we change into a mana based skills such as Henry suggested than medusa will be a tanker that need mana. Then what's her agi for? Besides, mystic snake is now good skills to steal mana.

It's for her synergy with MANA SHIELD and MYSTIC SNAKE.

She doens't need to be an intelligence based hero to need a lot of mana, in fact will be kinda balanced. Split shot is so boring and out of her theme, I simply hate this skill and a lot of players agree with me.

NoThlnG · 06-30-2009, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Henry

It's for her synergy with MANA SHIELD and MYSTIC SNAKE.

She doens't need to be an intelligence based hero to need a lot of mana, in fact will be kinda balanced. Split shot is so boring and out of her theme, I simply hate this skill and a lot of players agree with me.

Well, her mana shield and mystic snake already synergize each other well

Yes, she doesn't need to be an intelligence hero but if she has only 2 mana stealing skills, one mana based defense skill, and one escaping skills, what's her agility for? It is far better to her to become an intelligence coz she's not a damage dealer anymore

Split shot is not out of her theme. Whatever it is, she shoots arrow. Split Arrow for arrow-shoooter can't be out of theme. I know many players hate this skill and that includes me. But many of them hate this skill because it reduces primary target damages unlike Luna's Glaive or Cleavings. If it works similar to glaive or cleave I'm sure many people will love it.

Necro · 11-05-2009, 12:52 PM

One of the better remakes. T-up.

Rizenix · 11-05-2009, 12:55 PM

50% to others while dealing 100% to main is kinda too good, isn't it? Current is fine as it is, T-Down.

Roger Black · 11-05-2009, 02:55 PM

OMG pls do not remove Split Shot from Medusa like what many posters above me stating...
Manta+Split Shot FTW

The only thing need to be made to Split Shot IMO is to make it able to carry activated MKB

Redeemed A.I. · 11-05-2009, 09:50 PM

Seems nice.

0.5 x 3 + 1=2,5
0.75x 4 =3

Maybe make it 65%?Who cares for a small 5% overall loss when you can use it effectivelly without thinking "am I hitting to crappy?"
t-up for the concept

FireS · 11-05-2009, 09:54 PM

T-UP for the concept.
Really.

The numbers... honestly IDK.

Dynes · 11-05-2009, 10:42 PM

I'll shoot at a structure with 100% of my damage, and 50% on the creeps, leave Davion to it, I want my 75%.

NoThlnG · 11-05-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasad

Seems nice.

0.5 x 3 + 1=2,5
0.75x 4 =3

Maybe make it 65%?Who cares for a small 5% overall loss when you can use it effectivelly without thinking "am I hitting to crappy?"
t-up for the concept

Ok, I make it to 65%.

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Originally Posted by Dynes

I'll shoot at a structure with 100% of my damage, and 50% on the creeps, leave Davion to it, I want my 75%.

BTW, does damage on tower splash? IIRC, it's not. But split shot can do it...

Dynes · 11-05-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NoThlnG

BTW, does damage on tower splash? IIRC, it's not. But split shot can do it...

EDF...
2nd and 3rd lvls... duh

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06-25-2009, 04:55 AM	#2
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06-25-2009, 04:56 AM	#3
Zack1996 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Singapore! Posts: 1,259	Too many arrows. And the minimum amount of arrows allowed by Warcraft is 3. Sounds like a ranged splash, not bad a concept. T-Up.

06-25-2009, 06:13 PM	#8
Henry Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brazil Posts: 339	Split Shot concept doesn't really work with medusa... Let's try another PASSIVE skill envolving mana stealing, mana regen and mana pool.

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Roger Black Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ipoh, Perak, Malaysia Posts: 6,319	Re: [Remake] Medusa's Split Shot OMG pls do not remove Split Shot from Medusa like what many posters above me stating... Manta+Split Shot FTW The only thing need to be made to Split Shot IMO is to make it able to carry activated MKB __________________ Miku CAMCT: NiNO My Brain is Full of Userbar/Links by xbadboyzx by xbadboyzx

11-05-2009, 09:50 PM	#16
Redeemed A.I. Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Greece.Μακεδονία Posts: 8,186	Re: [Remake] Medusa's Split Shot Seems nice. 0.5 x 3 + 1=2,5 0.75x 4 =3 Maybe make it 65%?Who cares for a small 5% overall loss when you can use it effectivelly without thinking "am I hitting to crappy?" t-up for the concept __________________ Rebalance techies' hit attack Allow abaddon and other heroes to use soul ringNEW!

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11-05-2009, 10:42 PM	#18
Dynes Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 3,853 Blog Entries: 4	Re: [Remake] Medusa's Split Shot I'll shoot at a structure with 100% of my damage, and 50% on the creeps, leave Davion to it, I want my 75%. __________________ Dynes: I don't believe you. /care ~~My suggestions on my blog.~~ I'll hand it over to DotA 2... for now.