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Old 02-05-2012, 01:55 PM   #1
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Default Why is DotA so hard?


I (and most of us newguys) wonder why is it DotA have such unnecessarily high learing curve.

Why does DotA doesn't have smart cast? And controlling group is such a hard task to do.

Why does Invoker have too much unnecessary spell? Ane why is it you have to invoke the spell to begin with? I have looked at DotA 1 heroes and heroes like Meepo is just a chore to use.

Also, why does the legacy key exist in the first place? It's seems just out of place and I can't think of 1 reason why is should. What do you guys think?
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:58 PM   #2
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Anyway. Learning dota needs patience.. Alot of time to practice
And oh wait, Jan 2012. Figures.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:59 PM   #3
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:00 PM   #4
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do not start with invoker or meepo or chen or any heroes you know is hard to master from just looking at the spells and problem solved.
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:00 PM   #5
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Default Re: Why is DotA so hard?

http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=647898

I think this thread is prove that Invoker is just an unnecessary in DotA, he is too good if played well but sucks for us newguys.
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:01 PM   #6
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Default Re: Why is DotA so hard?

i am not an expert at dota either man.
but do you not relish the chance to play with complexity after seeing s2 and riots heroes in their games?
so you want dota to be a simple piece of shit with no depth or complexity ad thus less available enjoyment?
this is not conducive to an auspicious game (gameplay wise :P).
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:01 PM   #7
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agree about legacy keys
anyway, its not that hard, you are just too lazy

i mean, w3, sc2 and a lot more games require more micro and macro skills and you dont see peaple complaining about it
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:02 PM   #8
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Default Re: Why is DotA so hard?

No, only newguys like you complain that invoker is broken/hard/retarded.

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agree about legacy keys
anyway, its not that hard, you are just too lazy
Because legacy keys we're for the dota1 ppl who gotten used to the wc3 keys.
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No, only newguys like you complain that invoker is broken/hard/retarded.
Yes, that is why he Invoker wins everytime he enters a tournament right?
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:05 PM   #10
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Ya'll posting in a troll thread.
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:05 PM   #11
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the community allowed it to happen as well as allowing multi accounting ;)
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:07 PM   #13
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Also, why does the legacy key exist in the first place? It's seems just out of place and I can't think of 1 reason why is should. What do you guys think?
Well, the most DotA-Players are over 13 years old, and get cramps when they try to press their hand over qwer. Having the hotkeys spread a bit is just more comfortable when you have big hands.
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:07 PM   #14
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Because legacy keys we're for the dota1 ppl who gotten used to the wc3 keys.[/QUOTE]
no, no, HELL NO
putting skills away from something simple like qwer or zxcv or 1234 is just dumb
of course, i used legacy keys in dota1 for more than 3 years, you sure can get used to it, but is still makes no sense, even if w3 was like that
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:07 PM   #15
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This thread is so stupid I couldn't get out because it dumbed me down.
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:07 PM   #16
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Yes, that is why he Invoker wins everytime he enters a tournament right?
Wanna see a replay where invoker loses in a tournament?
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Because legacy keys we're for the dota1 ppl who gotten used to the wc3 keys.
no, no, HELL NO
putting skills away from something simple like qwer or zxcv or 1234 is just dumb
of course, i used legacy keys in dota1 for more than 3 years, you sure can get used to it, but is still makes no sense, even if w3 was like that
But still. Because they put legacy keys is for the people who are USED to it, don't need your opinion nab.
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I didn't know tabbing and using control groups is hard.

What, you never played an RTS before?
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Well, the most DotA-Players are over 13 years old, and get cramps when they try to press their hand over qwer. Having the hotkeys spread a bit is just more comfortable when you have big hands.
And that is why it's unnecessary. How about those with small hand, they will have a hard time playing DotA because of the legacy key.

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This thread is so stupid I couldn't get out because it dumbed me down.
And looking at most things you post, you're not that smart either.
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Default Re: Why is DotA so hard?

Actually it's not that hard unless you play LoL.

Oh wait, you're a LoL player.
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I didn't know tabbing and using control groups is hard.

What, you never played an RTS before?
And we are playing RTS? It's a MOBA/ARTS.

It's like saying counter strike is the same as CoD.
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And that is why it's unnecessary. How about those with small hand, they will have a hard time playing DotA because of the legacy key.


A kid with small hands playing in GMPGL(Gigabyte Mineski Pro Gaming League) and is using legacy keys.
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A kid with small hands playing in GMPGL(Gigabyte Mineski Pro Gaming League) and is using legacy keys.
OP, just read his name. That should be the end of this thread
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:16 PM   #24
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I love the legacy keys....I just can't habituate to the "QWER" (or whatever) for all the heroes xd

And...stop trolling plz. There is a plenty of easy heroes to use....when you are more skilled you can try other heroes like Invoker, Meepo, Pudge, Chen, Visage and Leoric.
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A kid with small hands playing in GMPGL(Gigabyte Mineski Pro Gaming League) and is using legacy keys.
It's already hard for a kid to play DotA, you have to maim him with legacy keys?
Now I know why people talks about how toxicated DotA community is.
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It's already hard for a kid to play DotA, you have to maim him with legacy keys?
Now I know why people talks about how toxicated DotA community is.
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It's already hard for a kid to play DotA, you have to maim him with legacy keys?
Now I know why people talks about how toxicated DotA community is.
I'm not maiming the kid, actually, that kid is pretty good in playing dota. i'm saying because you said legacy keys is hard for small handed people while that kid plays in pro scene. L2P please. L2P
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But still. Because they put legacy keys is for the people who are USED to it, don't need your opinion nab.
i understand that for dota2 since peaple are used to it

it dont understand why the fuck they made like that a long time ago in dota 1...
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It's already hard for a kid to play DotA, you have to maim him with legacy keys?
Now I know why people talks about how toxicated DotA community is.
I didn't know it was too hard to see that YOU CAN DEACTIVATE DE LEGACY KEYS
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i understand that for dota2 since peaple are used to it

it dont understand why the fuck they made like that a long time ago in dota 1...
Because it made a huge difference with skill combos, qwer is pretty hard because it's too close, while wc3 keys made it abit loose, thus making it much more comfortable.
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I'm not maiming the kid, actually, that kid is pretty good in playing dota. i'm saying because you said legacy keys is hard for small handed people while that kid plays in pro scene. L2P please. L2P
Instead of that kid becoming DotA prodigy, he can't just because the community prefers Legacy keys just to mess with him.

Good job community
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Instead of that kid becoming DotA prodigy, he can't just because the community prefers Legacy keys just to mess with him.
And because you came from a retarded MOBA with qwer has a hotkey, you're saying it's a mess? You need to watch more competitive scenes bro.
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And because you came from a retarded MOBA with qwer has a hotkey, you're saying it's a mess? You need to watch more competitive scenes bro.
Are there kids with small hand in them? No? I wonder why.....
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Are there kids with small hand in them? No? I wonder why.....
Because kids still have a life to choose, and teenagers have higher mentality.
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If you don't like the game don't play it. You don't need to argue with people over the Internet to accomplish your goal.
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If u compare dota with wc3 its simple.
If u compare it with mario/LOL its hard.
Its relative
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my only issue with this game right now are stealth fags who do nothing to help their team

I swear, whoever has a team with a stealth heroe loses the game. Unless the other team is full of Russians or brand new players and lets the likes of Riki/Brood get fat as hell.
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One question OP, then u can leave this forum forever... If u were to invest a couple of years into something (a sport/university/business) and a newcomer comes along and beats u in ur field in a matter of days, how would that make u feel? Yea i thought so, so stop bitching and start playing, there is no grater reward than mastering a hero with a high learning curve and and stomping with it!
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Because kids still have a life to choose, and teenagers have higher mentality.
That's why kids can't play DotA, because they have to choose life. Interesting argument there pal.
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