Worst item in game

[Kenshiro]

Originally Posted by Tenshi_

Sangue and Yasha xD

Despite the fact it's not the best item, Sange & Yasha is quite a good item on Spiritbreaker ; between Greater Bash and Greater Maim, the enemy you're targeting (if possible the carry) will be nearly completely shut down.

[zoorned100]

Radiance(if not at early game).Doesn't worth this money

[magic101]

Null Talisman. Bracers are useful for the health, and they build up into Janggo, a superb item on almost every hero. This makes Bracer beneficial on nearly every hero. Wraith Bands add some health and useful armor (almost 1 point) and attack speed, which is quite useful for AGI heroes. It also upgrades into RoA, which provides a handy mana aura (very useful for AGI and STR heroes, since they have low mana and low mana regen).

What are Nulls good for? They give an extra 39 mana points compared to the Wraith Bands and Bracers. Their usefulness on INT heroes is nonexistent, as INT heroes already have a naturally large mana pool, so 39 extra mana doesn't matter as much as 57 extra health from Bracers. AGI heroes never should buy Nulls, as the 39 extra mana is nothing compared to armor, attackspeed, and damage from Wraith Bands. STR heroes rarely buy Nulls, the only ones that will are those who have high-costing spells with a low natural mana pool, and even then, Soul Ring is probably better for their needs.

To further its worthlessness, Null Talismans upgrade into Dagon. And it's a well known fact that only instagibbers are candidates for Dagon. Furthermore, Dagon is only useful during the first (maybe) twenty minutes of the games, unless it is upgraded (which is basically like throwing money away) frequently.
Null Talisman is the worst item in the game, hands down.

[Pondrac]

Originally Posted by magic101

To further its worthlessness, Null Talismans upgrade into Dagon. And it's a well known fact that only instagibbers are candidates for Dagon. Furthermore, Dagon is only useful during the first (maybe) twenty minutes of the games

False

Dagon is quite a good item on most of int semicarries which are expected to do some right clicks

[magic101]

Originally Posted by Pondrac

False

Dagon is quite a good item on most of int semicarries which are expected to do some right clicks

False.

Dagon is quite a good item for KSing, though.

[Laodu]

mask of madness

[liveadult22]

Refresher Orb:
Yes, it can be a good item if you get 20000 when u start, but the problem is that you don't! By the time u get one, it's already late game, and that's when people already get like 3000+ hp, it's useless. also the stats and cost is too high.

Tranquil Boots:
Someone name a hero that is good with this boot. You might say fragile melee agility heroes should get it, but I say treads with strength would be a lot better.

Smoke of Deceit:
I don't really see a real purpose of this item. You might say that it can help u escape, but I think buying that for 100 gold is just ridiculous.

Eaglehorn (All agility items in general):
I have no idea why would people want to buy agility items, cuz they are seriously expensive and they suck! I have evidence:

Eaglehorn grants you +25% Attack Speed, 3 1/7 armor, and if u r an agility hero, 25 damage.

Let's say if you want to buff ur hero so much, so u bought 4 eaglehorns, which costs 13200 gold.

To get the 100% attack speed, you can get 2 hyperstones (4400 gold). To get the 13 armor, you can get a plate mail and a ring of protection (1575 gold). To get 100 damage, 2 demon edges and a blades of attack would be enough. (5350 gold)

Added together is 11325 gold, not counting the extra 10% attack speed i counted in the hyperstone, and the missing armor on the ring of protection.

That's almost 2000 gold apart!

And if you get 4 eaglehorns for a strength/intelligence hero, then u r totally stupid. Cuz u don't get the bonus damage. 11325- 5350= 5975
13200- 5975=7225

So getting 4 eaglehorns for an agility hero is like throwing away 2000 gold, and for a strength/intelligence hero, it's like throwing away 7225 gold!

R U with me???

[Pwntlolz]

considering how cost effective 2 nulls + phase on every int hero in the game for attacking saying null is the worst item in the game is downright idiotic

[liveadult22]

Rikimaru with Lothar's??? R u serious, riki has a permanent invisibility!

[Kenshiro]

Originally Posted by liveadult22

Refresher Orb:
Yes, it can be a good item if you get 20000 when u start, but the problem is that you don't! By the time u get one, it's already late game, and that's when people already get like 3000+ hp, it's useless. also the stats and cost is too high.

Tranquil Boots:
Someone name a hero that is good with this boot. You might say fragile melee agility heroes should get it, but I say treads with strength would be a lot better.

Smoke of Deceit:
I don't really see a real purpose of this item. You might say that it can help u escape, but I think buying that for 100 gold is just ridiculous.

Eaglehorn (All agility items in general):
I have no idea why would people want to buy agility items, cuz they are seriously expensive and they suck! I have evidence:

Eaglehorn grants you +25% Attack Speed, 3 1/7 armor, and if u r an agility hero, 25 damage.

Let's say if you want to buff ur hero so much, so u bought 4 eaglehorns, which costs 13200 gold.

To get the 100% attack speed, you can get 2 hyperstones (4400 gold). To get the 13 armor, you can get a plate mail and a ring of protection (1575 gold). To get 100 damage, 2 demon edges and a blades of attack would be enough. (5350 gold)

Added together is 11325 gold, not counting the extra 10% attack speed i counted in the hyperstone, and the missing armor on the ring of protection.

That's almost 2000 gold apart!

And if you get 4 eaglehorns for a strength/intelligence hero, then u r totally stupid. Cuz u don't get the bonus damage. 11325- 5350= 5975
13200- 5975=7225

So getting 4 eaglehorns for an agility hero is like throwing away 2000 gold, and for a strength/intelligence hero, it's like throwing away 7225 gold!

R U with me???

Refresher Orb is good on a few select heroes, the most potent one being Warlock IMO (double Fatal Bonds and double Rain of Chaos with Aghanim).

Tranquil Boots are the most OP boots you could find ; it makes laning possible against a Lich/Clockwerk lane for example. If you fail to realize that, quit DotA !

Smoke of Deceit IS NOT an escape tool ; it's a ganking tool with the main purpose of getting past enemy observer wards undetected.

Eaglehorn and all AGI items in general ; seriously, do you know what's the notion of opportunity costs when it comes to the limited inventory you have ? Eaglehorn, while not really cost-effective in itself, seriously compresses damage, IAS and armor into a single slot for AGI heroes. And don't say it's bad for the DPS, because obviously you haven't made the computations if you say so.

[Lord.Fairfang]

I'd pick Boots of Travel.

[busters]

mask of madness clearly the worst item ever no doubt about it

[SmartBoy]

The only item I would never build if I wanted to win, is Dagon 5. Dagon 1 is still barely tolerable for a few heroes, and has even helped me win a few times. One example was when I was a Storm Spirit with shitty farm, but somehow managed to farm a Dagon 1 and used it to instagib the enemy Chen in teamfights.

But Dagon 5 is horrible. The only thing I've achieved by making it is losing already won games. I can't think of one situation where the 5200 money needed for 4 Dagon recipes wouldn't be better spent buying a Guinsoo for example. Even if you're a farmed Tinker with 20k gold and one free item slot, there are still better items to make.

[Koutsiog]

Midas

[silent_levia]

Dust of appearance... last only 12s + 60s cd! There are better items which you can use to detect invisible (gem, sentry, book of nec 3).
Every other items, you dont buy them doesnt mean they are bad...! Imagine Dota without them...

[samekind]

Nobody mentioning Rod of Atos makes this item worst item in game.

[pipipr7]

Originally Posted by sh0kk

Barathum probably the only one hero who can make use of MoM.

How the item that could be utilize to it finest by only one hero will not be the worst?

MoM is viable in:

-Sven: He's quite tanky, has a disable, and can make good use of the increased AS for his ultimate even early game.

-Slark: He has a 5.5/9.5 permainvis coupled with 1 second of pact to remove disables and make use of MoM's duration to steal stats, then juke a little and come back with the stats to rape the rest of the team. Tought, will be nuked into oblivion in any organized game, so this becomes shit tier for him in competitive level.

-Void: Has Chrono, a psudo blink with invulnerability+slow and backtrack to reduce greatly his squishines during madness duration. Has great sinergy with time lock.

-Sniper: In a team that can help him maintain proper positioning, (or coupled with lothar's) it's a viable core, quite risky against organized teams since he has no natural escape mechanism. Still, great because of headshot procs, like void.

-Barathum: Increased movespeed for increased damage. More bashes for increased DPS, permabashes low EHP targets early/midgame with the rest of his skillset. Quite tanky too.

The problem with Madness is people fail to use it properly, any miscalculation and you could end up in the middle of the enemy team with 2/3 of your EHP. Even profesional players fear this item, since it's use can lead to very unpredictable outcomes, still provided you have the correct hero and itembuild it is probably the most cost efficient DPS item in the whole game.

[Pwntlolz]

Originally Posted by pipipr7

MoM is viable in:

-Sven: He's quite tanky, has a disable, and can make good use of the increased AS for his ultimate even early game.

-Slark: He has a 5.5/9.5 permainvis coupled with 1 second of pact to remove disables and make use of MoM's duration to steal stats, then juke a little and come back with the stats to rape the rest of the team. Tought, will be nuked into oblivion in any organized game, so this becomes shit tier for him in competitive level.

-Void: Has Chrono, a psudo blink with invulnerability+slow and backtrack to reduce greatly his squishines during madness duration. Has great sinergy with time lock.

-Sniper: In a team that can help him maintain proper positioning, (or coupled with lothar's) it's a viable core, quite risky against organized teams since he has no natural escape mechanism. Still, great because of headshot procs, like void.

-Barathum: Increased movespeed for increased damage. More bashes for increased DPS, permabashes low EHP targets early/midgame with the rest of his skillset. Quite tanky too.

The problem with Madness is people fail to use it properly, any miscalculation and you could end up in the middle of the enemy team with 2/3 of your EHP. Even profesional players fear this item, since it's use can lead to very unpredictable outcomes, still provided you have the correct hero and itembuild it is probably the most cost efficient DPS item in the whole game.

Sven's melee without any blink, he won't be able to attack people in fights constantly and not hotd stacking is somewhat ridiculous

you can do that on slark and enjoy dying in a few seconds

void is pretty meh, mjoll is much better and if youre going bfury hotd stacking is probably best

bara without bkb with mom cant even attack things, dont fool yourself

it leads to fairly predictable outcomes with melees, you spend too much time farming it, you click it expecting to be able to attack things without a bkb and you die

[Bojan112]

refresher, item from past when games where much longer and you could farm other items to supplement high mana cost of that item

[Rowdyruff]

Rod of Atos. Who the hell builds this.