Shield Effect/Armor Placer

[bentinata]

Shield Effect/Armor Placer

(Unique Defend Modifier)
New Element to DotA

I think the Armor Placer suggestion is a hot thread in the Item Suggestion, so I will make a thread about it, it was currently a thread make by Senyu in Item Suggestion, but he's in wrong forum, I think...

Description:
Defensive ability/item that will make the attacker, after some condition, take a bad effect/damage, without being controlled by the hero. The Shield Effect/Armor Placer can't be stacked.

Differences:

Mechanics:

• Shield Effect/Armor Placer can't stacked
• Armor Placer will create a positive buff in hero who used it
• Armor Placer will create a negative buff in hero who attack it
• Armor Placer can be Debuffed/Purged

• Active Shield Effect Item
• Active Shield Effect Skill
• Active Armor Placer Skill
• Passive Shield Effect Skill
• Passive Armor Placer Skill
• Passive Armor Placer Item

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  Blade Mail
  
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  Static Charges (Mjollnir)
  
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  Amulet of Corruption (PIELIKEI)

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  Aphotic Shield (Lord of Avernus)
  

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  Frost Armor (Lich)
  
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  Spiked Carapace (Nerubian Assasin)
  

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  Bristleback (Bristleback)
  
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  Counter Helix (Axe)
  
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  Dispersion (Spectre)
  
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  Return (Centaur)
  

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  Unstable Current (Lightning Revenant)
  
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  Untouchable (Enchantress)
  
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  Corrosive Skin (Netherdrake)
  
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  Craggy Exterior (Stone Giant)
  

Currently there is no Passive Armor Placer Item, but there is some people tryin' to make that, there is:

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  Armor of Rust (Senyu)
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  Runed Shield (Senyu)
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  Shadow's Embrace (Senyu)
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  Senyu's Helmet (PIELIKEI)
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  Shaman's Armor (Senyu)
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  Frigus Spaulders (Senyu)
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  Raven Skinmail (ZipFile)

Hope their suggestion will be implemented!

Senyu, PIELIKEI ZipFile for the item
Senyu, juleocesar, ZipFile for the original ideas

• 3/29/2012: Add Raven Skinmail
• 3/29/2012: Add Amulet of Corruption

[ZipFile]

Great execution of this, good job

[gilvert]

and your point is?

you don't mention pipe, vanguard, stout shield, pms, kraken shell

and no, senyu doesn't post in the wrong section, you are the one who do it

and learn the mechanics......... you're talking about something you don't know

new element to DotA in-game mechanics? no

you want to suggest an ability that trigger upon your hero is attacked? put it in ability ideas
want to suggest an item that has that ability? item ideas
a hero? hero ideas

[bentinata]

how about new system, where can I post it? gilvert?

i change the title, are you SATISFIED now?

[theming]

This looks legit, T-UP

Although I do agree with gilvert that there looks like some spells and effects that aren't listed in the effects

[PIELIKEI]

Zipfile has made one...

http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=726848

[gilvert]

no

my point is : this thread is pointless

this has no suggestion whatsoever

if you support the ability/item/hero, bump the thread at that section, NOT ADVERTISING THEM HERE

could be reported for advertising other thread, actually

eh, and you still didn't mention stout shield/pms/vanguard

[PIELIKEI]

Well no... it is impossible to post it under "Hero" or "Ability" or even "Item" as it contains elements of all three... Sure an "Armor Placer" item would be in the item subsection, but the "Armor Placer" change itself would be in "other".

And you are right, OP needs to update with other effects

[gilvert]

and can you point me to the suggestion in this this thread?

basically this thread only sums the suggestions in item ideas who have concept about giving buff/debuff at enemy who attack the bearer of item

[bentinata]

Originally Posted by theming

This looks legit, T-UP

Although I do agree with gilvert that there looks like some spells and effects that aren't listed in the effects

thanks for the T-Up, but can you tell me what item/skill that I miss?

Originally Posted by PIELIKEI

Zipfile has made one...

http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=726848

I have add it thanks

Originally Posted by gilvert

no

my point is : this thread is pointless

this has no suggestion whatsoever

if you support the ability/item/hero, bump the thread at that section, NOT ADVERTISING THEM HERE

could be reported for advertising other thread, actually

eh, and you still didn't mention stout shield/pms/vanguard

Originally Posted by gilvert

and can you point me to the suggestion in this this thread?

basically this thread only sums the suggestions in item ideas who have concept about giving buff/debuff at enemy who attack the bearer of item

the point of this thread is to make a new system call Shield Effect/Armor Placer
and... stout/vangu/pms doesn't make the attacker receive damage nor take negative buffs, i can't add it
since the Shiel Effect/Armor Placer is give negative effects to the attacker

thanks for all ^^

[bentinata]

add Amulet of Corruption to Active Shield Effect, because it's only give damage to the attacker...

[gilvert]

a new system, you said?

please learn the mechanics, seriously

all the item/skill you mentioned above basically has some code : trigger a buff/debuff/damage to the enemy who attack/cast spell to/whatever to the bearer/hero

it is NOT a system!

[PIELIKEI]

Can we not get bogged down on semantics? The point is that it is a group of items which causes some discomfort to anyone who assaults you. Call it whatever you want. I personally like the idea, but am willing to listen to any reasonable argument against it.

However there is one thing I would like to tweak: Active spells can be stacked. I like my frost armor whether or not I have spiked carapace or not. Having aphotic shield is still really good, regardless what item I had. Armors cannot stack for sure, but let the abilities stack with anything.

[MauranKilom]

What exactly is your suggestion? I mean, what does the "new system" you suggest DO? What mechanics does it change? And most importantly: WHY?

As of now, you simply categorize items and skills and suggest a semantic for them. What's the point?