[TOOLTIP] EoS for Range

NoThlnG · 10-12-2009, 12:18 AM

This is the EoS in the recipe shop

This is the EoS in the range hero.

Note the difference?

In the recipe shop it is said that orb effects does not stack only for melee

While in the range hero, it is said that orb effects doesn't stack.

I think the orb effects parts on the ranged hero is removed unless it is real orb effect (in that case, "melee" in the recipe shop is removed)

Thoughts?

Kanashimi · 10-12-2009, 03:23 AM

Sure T-Up. Easy to code, no problem at all.

Elements- · 10-12-2009, 05:10 AM

T-up.You've got a point there EoS is not Orb for Range so why put that Orb doesn't stack thingy when your hero is range.It is easy to code so a huge T-up for you

viiva · 10-12-2009, 06:21 AM

If I get this right, you want to remove the line "Orb effects do not stack" on Ranged EoS?
If so, support - more of an inconsistency/typo.

NoThlnG · 10-12-2009, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananaHUNT

If I get this right, you want to remove the line "Orb effects do not stack" on Ranged EoS?
If so, support - more of an inconsistency/typo.

Yes...

Orb effects do not stack should be there if and only if it really does it.

Fate Trap · 11-14-2009, 11:20 AM

agreed

dominator02 · 11-14-2009, 11:31 AM

Support this

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Zack1996 · 11-14-2009, 12:35 PM

T-Up. Why is it there in the first place 0_o

NoThlnG · 11-14-2009, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zack1996

T-Up. Why is it there in the first place 0_o

Because I played single player mode to verify it... + get ss

-Yuuh™ · 11-14-2009, 04:14 PM

For sure, obviously t-up. It'll be fixed.

Arcade24 · 11-17-2009, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanashimi

Sure T-Up. Easy to code, no problem at all.

what he said

BorisPeace- · 11-17-2009, 09:30 PM

T-Null for now.

EoS is (or is supposed to be) only a buff-placer on ranged heroes, which means they SHOULD be able to get any Orb-Item (not Orb&Buff like Deso). This doesn't seem to be the case though. Only Lifesteal works properly with EoS.

Unnamed_ · 11-17-2009, 10:58 PM

I will not go into mechanics here, but orb of slow(sange and yasha and mjollnir) work fine with skadi on ranged units.

Quote:

Sure T-Up. Easy to code, no problem at all.

What's with the coding?It's just removing 1 line of a tooltip.

BorisPeace- · 11-18-2009, 01:57 AM

Erm.. Why get S&Y when you have EoS

There are 4 Orb items: Sange(&Yasha), Lifesteal, Chain Lightning and Feedback.

Feedback for one, doesn't work well with EoS. You will use feedback if the target has mana, EoS if it has no mana. This means practically you won't use EoS on heroes cuz they have mana regen. Also you won't slow with EoS when S&Y or Chain procs.

MonkeyEx · 11-18-2009, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BorisPeace

Erm.. Why get S&Y when you have EoS

There are 4 Orb items: Sange(&Yasha), Lifesteal, Chain Lightning and Feedback.

Feedback for one, doesn't work well with EoS. You will use feedback if the target has mana, EoS if it has no mana. This means practically you won't use EoS on heroes cuz they have mana regen. Also you won't slow with EoS when S&Y or Chain procs.

I thought Feedback is an ORB EFFECT not a BUFF PLACER
take a look in here:
DotA Items and Recipes
so, it should work with EoS!!!
I think IF need to fix this....if what BorisPeace said is true, then Feedback should work with Frost Attack in ranged!as Feedback is orb effect only while EoS is a buff placers...

this is also a problem for Diffusal!!
how about CL, is it a buff placer?I don't think so...it also should stack with EoS ranged!!

Linism · 11-18-2009, 03:06 AM

Agreed, T-Up, IceFrog probably just forgot about it.

NoThlnG · 11-18-2009, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4rk_T4nkR

I thought Feedback is an ORB EFFECT not a BUFF PLACER
take a look in here:
DotA Items and Recipes
so, it should work with EoS!!!
I think IF need to fix this....if what BorisPeace said is true, then Feedback should work with Frost Attack in ranged!as Feedback is orb effect only while EoS is a buff placers...

this is also a problem for Diffusal!!
how about CL, is it a buff placer?I don't think so...it also should stack with EoS ranged!!

Actually feedback is rather strange. It work as orb effect when enemy has mana while work as nothing if it is out of mana...

MonkeyEx · 11-18-2009, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoThlnG

Actually feedback is rather strange. It work as orb effect when enemy has mana while work as nothing if it is out of mana...

Well, does it have a buff placer?NO!
so, it should work with EoS Ranged!!!
this seems awkward...

Burndead · 11-18-2009, 11:27 AM

Why not? T-UP

CrYn00b · 11-18-2009, 11:37 AM

That's rather an inconsistency than a suggestion.

10-12-2009, 12:18 AM	#1
NoThlnG Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Nowhere Posts: 14,371 Blog Entries: 8	[TOOLTIP] EoS for Range This is the EoS in the recipe shop This is the EoS in the range hero. Note the difference? In the recipe shop it is said that orb effects does not stack only for melee While in the range hero, it is said that orb effects doesn't stack. I think the orb effects parts on the ranged hero is removed unless it is real orb effect (in that case, "melee" in the recipe shop is removed) Thoughts? Attached Thumbnails __________________ Assassin's Creed Helpful Links Suggestions Epic Quotes . Credits to Lotus V Eater . . How to Get Your Suggestion Implemented Custom Model GIF Request Suggestion Assisstor's Thread Guides, Lists and Templates How to Become a Moderator . . Suggestion Portfolio My Ability Collections .

10-12-2009, 03:23 AM	#2
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10-12-2009, 05:10 AM	#3
Elements- Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Painted Land. Posts: 5,988	Re: [TOOLTIP] EoS for Range T-up.You've got a point there EoS is not Orb for Range so why put that Orb doesn't stack thingy when your hero is range.It is easy to code so a huge T-up for you

10-12-2009, 06:21 AM	#4
viiva Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 497	Re: [TOOLTIP] EoS for Range If I get this right, you want to remove the line "Orb effects do not stack" on Ranged EoS? If so, support - more of an inconsistency/typo.

11-14-2009, 11:20 AM	#6
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11-14-2009, 11:31 AM	#7
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11-14-2009, 12:35 PM	#8
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11-17-2009, 09:30 PM	#12
BorisPeace- Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: GetUnitLoc(udg_Boris) Posts: 2,163 Blog Entries: 2	Re: [TOOLTIP] EoS for Range T-Null for now. EoS is (or is supposed to be) only a buff-placer on ranged heroes, which means they SHOULD be able to get any Orb-Item (not Orb&Buff like Deso). This doesn't seem to be the case though. Only Lifesteal works properly with EoS. __________________ 85th out of 719461 ----------------------------------------------- Turkish Gaming Center @www.gamehonor.com

11-18-2009, 01:57 AM	#14
BorisPeace- Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: GetUnitLoc(udg_Boris) Posts: 2,163 Blog Entries: 2	Re: [TOOLTIP] EoS for Range Erm.. Why get S&Y when you have EoS There are 4 Orb items: Sange(&Yasha), Lifesteal, Chain Lightning and Feedback. Feedback for one, doesn't work well with EoS. You will use feedback if the target has mana, EoS if it has no mana. This means practically you won't use EoS on heroes cuz they have mana regen. Also you won't slow with EoS when S&Y or Chain procs. __________________ 85th out of 719461 ----------------------------------------------- Turkish Gaming Center @www.gamehonor.com

11-18-2009, 03:06 AM	#16
Linism Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: location, location! Posts: 2,833	Re: [TOOLTIP] EoS for Range Agreed, T-Up, IceFrog probably just forgot about it.

11-18-2009, 11:27 AM	#19
Burndead Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Plovdiv, Bulgaria Posts: 1,276 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [TOOLTIP] EoS for Range Why not? T-UP __________________ My (implemented) suggestions

11-18-2009, 11:37 AM	#20
CrYn00b Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Türkiye Posts: 252	Re: [TOOLTIP] EoS for Range That's rather an inconsistency than a suggestion.