[REMAKE] Krobelus' Silence

NoThlnG · 10-12-2009, 02:04 AM

Drow and Krobe share same skill.

So I propose this :

Quote:

Ghost

Krobelus change herself into the Ghost. Also, silences all enemies nearby during this form. Get 10% MS bonus in this form

Level 1 - Silences 250 AoE. Last 4 seconds.
Level 2 - Silences 300 AoE. Last 5 seconds.
Level 3 - Silences 350 AoE. Last 6 seconds.
Level 4 - Silences 400 AoE. Last 7 seconds.

In Depth Explanation

Krobelus will turn into the "Banshee Ghost" with little transparency.
She will also get zero collision (since it's a ghost)
The zero collision is one like Phase Boots not Spectral Dagger

Cooldown: 20/19/18/17 seconds.
Mana Cost: 75 mana.

Explanation

Thoughts?

Henry · 10-12-2009, 02:15 AM

Interesting concept, very interesting, fits well better with her game style, but WitchCraft will work on it to?

I really like it by the way! Great suggestion NoThInG!

NoThlnG · 10-12-2009, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Henry

Interesting concept, very interesting, fits well better with her game style, but WitchCraft will work on it to?

I really like it by the way! Great suggestion NoThInG!

Hmm... Witchcraft reduces the mana cost by 10. Does it sounds good?

DaemonLasher · 10-12-2009, 03:02 AM

No. Thumbsdown.

Silence is a great skill on Krob, Its a viable alternate skill to maxing carrion swarm and it gives her added utility in a team fight. Enemys can still cast in this, they just have to wait for 1 second to get a skill off. When looking at heroes like ES an echo slam can change the battle.

Kanashimi · 10-12-2009, 03:28 AM

Need rebalancement about the magical reduction.... However i really support the concept.
Good idea.

NoThlnG · 10-12-2009, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonLasher

No. Thumbsdown.

Silence is a great skill on Krob, Its a viable alternate skill to maxing carrion swarm and it gives her added utility in a team fight. Enemys can still cast in this, they just have to wait for 1 second to get a skill off. When looking at heroes like ES an echo slam can change the battle.

I know silence is a great skill but the problem is silence is used in Traxex also.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanashimi

Need rebalancement about the magical reduction.... However i really support the concept.
Good idea.

Reduces physical dmg only. Magics are silenced when they are near to krob

EDIT :

Now this skill gives silence (constant) to all nearby enemies for 8 seconds.

Dynes · 10-12-2009, 03:43 AM

I love that physical DMG Redux, 75% for 8S, Kill em' in the well!

Kanashimi · 10-12-2009, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoThlnG

Reduces physical dmg only.

Misstype.
____

Since you silence nearby enemy's and get a really huge physical damage reduction you can consider yourself nearly unkillable o-o'

Reduce the reduction please....
Prettly please? >>

Thanks

DaemonLasher · 10-12-2009, 04:33 AM

Unless you take increased spell damage or move slower during this, This is unbearably overpowered when paired with Exorcism. Krob's ult as we know is extremely strong and when she has her items it becomes increasingly harder to take her down. With this amount of physical damage reduction, there isnt a single carry that can defeat her. Thats just stupid.

kings.empire · 10-12-2009, 05:32 AM

Reduce duration to 2/3/4/5 seconds is better imo...8 seconds is too long for such benefits...and maybe reduce the physical damage taken to 20%/30%/40%/50% because 75% is crazy imo.

Like the concept however.

NoThlnG · 10-12-2009, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kings.empire

Reduce duration to 2/3/4/5 seconds is better imo...8 seconds is too long for such benefits...and maybe reduce the physical damage taken to 20%/30%/40%/50% because 75% is crazy imo.

Like the concept however.

Duration is reduced to constant 6 and phyical damage is reduced as you said.

The silence AoE isn't that great so I don't think this is imba....

DGAPwarrior · 10-12-2009, 07:46 AM

T-up for concept. After nerf of the Heart, Bloodstone, Witchcraft and Phase Boots Banshee became an average hero. This remake will make her a bit stronger.

kluch · 10-12-2009, 07:50 AM

will make krob more intresting, BUT its gna be kinda overpowered like the ppl said... i rate increase cd abit... 20sec mebe?

tHe silent H · 10-12-2009, 07:53 AM

actually i wouldn't mind removing drows silence for something that suits her more, but as long as we are remaking a repeated skill, this is fine.

atomchoco · 10-12-2009, 07:57 AM

Very amazing concept. All the numbers are balanced enough for me, except for the Mana Cost and Cooldown. Maybe increase the scaling? 75/85/105/125? And cooldown to fixed 20 seconds?

T-UP

NoThlnG · 10-12-2009, 08:21 AM

Changed scaling of mana cost and cooldown

chadpiety123 · 10-12-2009, 08:32 AM

No current way of determining incoming damage type, but I'm not sure if there's a base ability in Warcraft, that has the same function as this. Just thought I'd mention.

Necro · 10-12-2009, 09:07 AM

Imbalanced numbers. Fix them or it's a T-down from me. Either reduce the duration to 2/3/4/5 or make her take bonus magic damage while in this form (like Decrepify) (some enemies are bound to remain unsilenced).

xy4kuz4x · 10-12-2009, 10:23 AM

Great, but manacost seems too much for silent and transformation.

refrag · 10-12-2009, 10:34 AM

i'd prefer to remake drows silence then krobels ...

10-12-2009, 02:15 AM	#2
Henry Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brazil Posts: 339	Re: [REMAKE] Krobelus' Silence Interesting concept, very interesting, fits well better with her game style, but WitchCraft will work on it to? I really like it by the way! Great suggestion NoThInG!

10-12-2009, 03:02 AM	#4
DaemonLasher Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 895	Re: [REMAKE] Krobelus' Silence No. Thumbsdown. Silence is a great skill on Krob, Its a viable alternate skill to maxing carrion swarm and it gives her added utility in a team fight. Enemys can still cast in this, they just have to wait for 1 second to get a skill off. When looking at heroes like ES an echo slam can change the battle.

10-12-2009, 03:28 AM	#5
Kanashimi Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,254	Re: [REMAKE] Krobelus' Silence Need rebalancement about the magical reduction.... However i really support the concept. Good idea. __________________ ~Kanashimi X Kanashimi~

10-12-2009, 03:43 AM	#7
Dynes Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 3,853 Blog Entries: 4	Re: [REMAKE] Krobelus' Silence I love that physical DMG Redux, 75% for 8S, Kill em' in the well! __________________ Dynes: I don't believe you. /care ~~My suggestions on my blog.~~ I'll hand it over to DotA 2... for now.

Last edited by Dynes; 10-12-2009 at 03:54 AM.

10-12-2009, 04:33 AM	#9
DaemonLasher Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 895	Re: [REMAKE] Krobelus' Silence Unless you take increased spell damage or move slower during this, This is unbearably overpowered when paired with Exorcism. Krob's ult as we know is extremely strong and when she has her items it becomes increasingly harder to take her down. With this amount of physical damage reduction, there isnt a single carry that can defeat her. Thats just stupid.

10-12-2009, 05:32 AM	#10
kings.empire Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: A Mile in the Sky Posts: 1,435 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [REMAKE] Krobelus' Silence Reduce duration to 2/3/4/5 seconds is better imo...8 seconds is too long for such benefits...and maybe reduce the physical damage taken to 20%/30%/40%/50% because 75% is crazy imo. Like the concept however.

10-12-2009, 07:46 AM	#12
DGAPwarrior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Russia, Saratov Posts: 204	Re: [REMAKE] Krobelus' Silence T-up for concept. After nerf of the Heart, Bloodstone, Witchcraft and Phase Boots Banshee became an average hero. This remake will make her a bit stronger.

10-12-2009, 07:50 AM	#13
kluch Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: South-Africa T_T Posts: 94	Re: [REMAKE] Krobelus' Silence will make krob more intresting, BUT its gna be kinda overpowered like the ppl said... i rate increase cd abit... 20sec mebe? __________________

10-12-2009, 07:57 AM	#15
atomchoco Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: PH Posts: 280	Re: [REMAKE] Krobelus' Silence Very amazing concept. All the numbers are balanced enough for me, except for the Mana Cost and Cooldown. Maybe increase the scaling? 75/85/105/125? And cooldown to fixed 20 seconds? T-UP

10-12-2009, 08:21 AM	#16
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10-12-2009, 08:32 AM	#17
chadpiety123 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,616	Re: [REMAKE] Krobelus' Silence No current way of determining incoming damage type, but I'm not sure if there's a base ability in Warcraft, that has the same function as this. Just thought I'd mention. __________________ Hi, I'm new here. Hope people could help me out start a new suggestion!

10-12-2009, 09:07 AM	#18
Necro Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: India Posts: 1,506	Re: [REMAKE] Krobelus' Silence Imbalanced numbers. Fix them or it's a T-down from me. Either reduce the duration to 2/3/4/5 or make her take bonus magic damage while in this form (like Decrepify) (some enemies are bound to remain unsilenced). __________________ Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain. Puck Aghanim's Effect \| Invoker Victory Animation \| Shapeshift Sound Against the Ropes on www.DotA-Allstars.com.

10-12-2009, 10:23 AM	#19
xy4kuz4x Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: I live in my house Posts: 1,760 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [REMAKE] Krobelus' Silence Great, but manacost seems too much for silent and transformation. __________________

10-12-2009, 10:34 AM	#20
refrag Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: beautiful pommerania Posts: 1,250	Re: [REMAKE] Krobelus' Silence i'd prefer to remake drows silence then krobels ...