List of spells from WarCraft 3 not used in DotA

Slarx · 05-04-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HellCraft

I think the crow uses this.

Crow doesnt have shield anymore.

Heraklinos · 05-04-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HellCraft

I think the crow uses this.

used to

PlayRough · 05-06-2012, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by EebstertheGreat

I'm going to add Volcano as the coolest ability unused in DotA.

I think the Requiem is based on Volcano?

Heraklinos · 05-06-2012, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PlayRough

I think the Requiem is based on Volcano?

Wrong, how did you get the idea? I don't see any resemblance between these two skills except the fact that NVM's model is based on Fire Lord.

Hueo · 05-07-2012, 06:42 PM

Mass Teleport (not sure) = Pitlord

MauranKilom · 05-07-2012, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hueo

Mass Teleport (not sure) = Pitlord

Seriously? You are about the 3rd one to ask that, and it's still wrong.

E02K · 05-07-2012, 09:53 PM

Lightning Shield - Ion Shell ( Dark Seer)

Sasho1233 · 05-07-2012, 11:05 PM

I am not sure if that is the base skill, but the effects of Ion Shell are triggered.

chukky-jr · 05-08-2012, 01:10 AM

what is the base spell for Leech Seed? and is the healing projectile + the heal itself created by trigger?

KuroNeko · 05-08-2012, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PlayRough

I think the Requiem is based on Volcano?

@Leech Seed - Base spell of leech seed is irrelevant. A lot of spells use Channel, I believe, as a base. And then the rest of their effects are triggered.

Absurd.cast · 05-08-2012, 05:33 AM

Healing Wave
Holy Light
Fragmentation Shards
Reveal
Invisibility (sorceress)
Heal (priest)
Dispel Magic/Abolish Magic/Disenchant
Control Magic
Volcano
Blizzard
Phoenix
Ancestral Spirit
Burning Oil
Liquid Fire
Pulverize (used to be on Tidehunter)
Absorb Mana
Aura of Blight
Cripple
Devour Magic
Disease Cloud (abomination)
Essence of Blight
Orb of Annihilation/Quill Spray
Possession
Unholy Frenzy (Viper and Razor old AS buffs)
Web (should work the same as Ensare)
Sacrifice
Detonate
Elune's Grace
Pick Up Archer
Sentinel (Huntress ladder one)
Shadow Meld (the one which works only at night)
Scout
Vengeance
Monsoon
Factory/Pocket Factory
Mind Rot
Ray of Disruption
Spiked Shell
Submerge
Acid Bomb
Dark Conversion
Dark Portal
Healing Spray
Incinerate (and its Arrow)

This should complete the list.

KuroNeko · 05-08-2012, 06:28 AM

Invisibility (sorceress) Used by Nature's Guise among other things
Heal (priest) Used by Forest Troll (High) Priest
Dispel Magic/Abolish Magic/Disenchant Used by Mangix's storm panda
Control Magic
Volcano
Blizzard
Phoenix
Ancestral Spirit
Burning Oil
Liquid Fire Exactly the same effect used by Jakiro's Liquid Fire ability
Pulverize (used to be on Tidehunter) Used by Warlock's Infernal's Flaming Fists ability
Absorb Mana
Aura of Blight
Cripple
Devour Magic
Disease Cloud (abomination)
Essence of Blight
Orb of Annihilation/Quill Spray
Possession
Unholy Frenzy (Viper and Razor old AS buffs)
Web (should work the same as Ensare)
Sacrifice
Detonate
Elune's Grace
Pick Up Archer
Sentinel (Huntress ladder one)
Shadow Meld (the one which works only at night)
Scout
Vengeance
Monsoon
Factory/Pocket Factory
Mind Rot
Ray of Disruption
Spiked Shell
Submerge
Acid Bomb Used by Invoker's Forge Spirits' "Melting Strike"
Dark Conversion
Dark Portal
Healing Spray
Incinerate (and its Arrow) Used by Ursa's Fury Swipes and Crixalis' Passive. Fury Swipes uses the increasing damage per hit. Crixalis uses the explode for AoE damage on death.

Sasho1233 · 05-08-2012, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KuroNeko

Liquid Fire Exactly the same effect used by Jakiro's Liquid Fire ability

The previous skill Jakiro had acted that way. The skill he has now is triggered.

BorisPeace- · 05-08-2012, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cajac909

Beastmaster's model ability ulti, When he calls a raid of animals. Like tinkers 3rd skill

This should be stampede.

Clogon · 05-09-2012, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 1239

I'm adding Vampiric Potion as the coolest ability not used anymore in DotA

.
But well... super heavy lifesteal is not a bug nowadays...

I missed this. Davion with satanic = over 100% Life leech. XD

Edit:
Cripple is used by Shadow Fiend's Ult and other spells too like Soul Assumtion.
Spiked Shell=Spiked Carapace which is used by Void's Backtrack (He will reflect 1 damage to all melee attackers.)
Elunes Grace is used by one of the spell resistance heroes, AM IIRC. Either way it is the same thing as Defend (Passive) which is used by many spell resistant heroes.

Clogon · 05-09-2012, 12:38 AM

One big skill that no one mentioned is AVATAR. This skill is no longer used in dota as it creates many many bugs like permanent lost of control, permanent immunity to disables and strange model changes.

EebstertheGreat · 05-09-2012, 04:16 AM

How about Gather? Or other worker abilities?

louroux · 05-09-2012, 08:18 AM

repair(?)
spirit link (warlock)?
sleep (dreadlord)
crypt lord's spiked armor
cripple
carry corpse (meat wagon)
cluster rocket
robo goblin (old bkb animation on tinker

)
healing spray
acid bomb
cloud (dragonhawk)
flame strike
phoenix
spell steal (stealing buffs from a target, transferring debuff to enemy)
ancestral spirit
ethereal form

MauranKilom · 05-09-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Clogon

Cripple is used by Shadow Fiend's Ult and other spells too like Soul Assumtion. Been mentioned before.
Spiked Shell=Spiked Carapace which is used by Void's Backtrack (He will reflect 1 damage to all melee attackers.) True, in this case the base spell matters.
Elunes Grace is used by one of the spell resistance heroes, AM IIRC. Either way it is the same thing as Defend (Passive) which is used by many spell resistant heroes. It's not used anywhere, but all the defend abilities for magic resistance have "Elune's Grace" as their name. Icefrog ftw...

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Originally Posted by louroux

repair(?) Unused.
spirit link (warlock)? Unused. Fatal Bonds is entirely triggered (ladder ability wouldn't amplify damage).
sleep (dreadlord) Used for Song of the Siren etc. (and Chain Frost).
crypt lord's spiked armor See above.
cripple See above.
carry corpse (meat wagon) Unused.
cluster rocket Used by Tiny's Avalanche.
robo goblin (old bkb animation on tinker

) Unused.
healing spray Completely unused, already mentioned.
acid bomb Used, e.g. Ignite (Ogre Magi).
cloud (dragonhawk) Used by Smoke Screen (Smoke Screen itself is based on Inferno).
flame strike Used in Jakiro's ultimate
phoenix Unused.
spell steal (stealing buffs from a target, transferring debuff to enemy) Unused.
ancestral spirit Unused.
ethereal form Unused (if you mean the one from the spirit walkers).

...

chukky-jr · 05-09-2012, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EebstertheGreat

How about Gather? Or other worker abilities?

i don't think any of them is currently use, most of worker abilities i can think of are :

Unsummon
Build/Summon
Pillage
Call to Arms/Return to Work
Gather (was this for resources?)
Backpack
Sacrifice
Explode or whatever that causes Wisp to dispel enemy buffs and burns 200 MP

don't remember any other else

05-07-2012, 06:42 PM	#45
Hueo Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 58	Re: List of spells from WarCraft 3 not used in Dot Mass Teleport (not sure) = Pitlord

05-07-2012, 09:53 PM	#47
E02K Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 5,180	Re: List of spells from WarCraft 3 not used in Dot Lightning Shield - Ion Shell ( Dark Seer) __________________ Were you interested in getting steam games for free? Now you can by going here.

05-07-2012, 11:05 PM	#48
Sasho1233 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 484	Re: List of spells from WarCraft 3 not used in Dot I am not sure if that is the base skill, but the effects of Ion Shell are triggered.

05-08-2012, 01:10 AM	#49
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05-08-2012, 05:33 AM	#51
Absurd.cast Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 302	Re: List of spells from WarCraft 3 not used in Dot Healing Wave Holy Light Fragmentation Shards Reveal Invisibility (sorceress) Heal (priest) Dispel Magic/Abolish Magic/Disenchant Control Magic Volcano Blizzard Phoenix Ancestral Spirit Burning Oil Liquid Fire Pulverize (used to be on Tidehunter) Absorb Mana Aura of Blight Cripple Devour Magic Disease Cloud (abomination) Essence of Blight Orb of Annihilation/Quill Spray Possession Unholy Frenzy (Viper and Razor old AS buffs) Web (should work the same as Ensare) Sacrifice Detonate Elune's Grace Pick Up Archer Sentinel (Huntress ladder one) Shadow Meld (the one which works only at night) Scout Vengeance Monsoon Factory/Pocket Factory Mind Rot Ray of Disruption Spiked Shell Submerge Acid Bomb Dark Conversion Dark Portal Healing Spray Incinerate (and its Arrow) This should complete the list. __________________

05-08-2012, 06:28 AM	#52
KuroNeko Forum Staff Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Invoqwer Posts: 4,933 Blog Entries: 18	Re: List of spells from WarCraft 3 not used in Dot Invisibility (sorceress) Used by Nature's Guise among other things Heal (priest) Used by Forest Troll (High) Priest Dispel Magic/Abolish Magic/Disenchant Used by Mangix's storm panda Control Magic Volcano Blizzard Phoenix Ancestral Spirit Burning Oil Liquid Fire Exactly the same effect used by Jakiro's Liquid Fire ability Pulverize (used to be on Tidehunter) Used by Warlock's Infernal's Flaming Fists ability Absorb Mana Aura of Blight Cripple Devour Magic Disease Cloud (abomination) Essence of Blight Orb of Annihilation/Quill Spray Possession Unholy Frenzy (Viper and Razor old AS buffs) Web (should work the same as Ensare) Sacrifice Detonate Elune's Grace Pick Up Archer Sentinel (Huntress ladder one) Shadow Meld (the one which works only at night) Scout Vengeance Monsoon Factory/Pocket Factory Mind Rot Ray of Disruption Spiked Shell Submerge Acid Bomb Used by Invoker's Forge Spirits' "Melting Strike" Dark Conversion Dark Portal Healing Spray Incinerate (and its Arrow) Used by Ursa's Fury Swipes and Crixalis' Passive. Fury Swipes uses the increasing damage per hit. Crixalis uses the explode for AoE damage on death.

05-09-2012, 12:38 AM	#56
Clogon Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 447	Re: List of spells from WarCraft 3 not used in Dot One big skill that no one mentioned is AVATAR. This skill is no longer used in dota as it creates many many bugs like permanent lost of control, permanent immunity to disables and strange model changes. __________________ I don't like moving... 09-08-12 sig: "The fun in learning is not knowing all the answers but the journey to find them." by me, Clogon. XD

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05-09-2012, 08:18 AM	#58
louroux Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Australia, Indonesia. Posts: 305	Re: List of spells from WarCraft 3 not used in Dot repair(?) spirit link (warlock)? sleep (dreadlord) crypt lord's spiked armor cripple carry corpse (meat wagon) cluster rocket robo goblin (old bkb animation on tinker ) healing spray acid bomb cloud (dragonhawk) flame strike phoenix spell steal (stealing buffs from a target, transferring debuff to enemy) ancestral spirit ethereal form __________________